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swimmer

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workplace violence
« on: January 07, 2010, 03:06:16 AM »
Do any of you guys experience workplace violence?  I know everyone does in this world to a certain degree, but I somehow think I am a target wherever I go.  I have a great reputation for getting along with everyone, get great feedback on yearly evals, but.... somehow I get caught in a web where I am the scapegoat and am totally oblivious to this fact until it's too late!! 

I tend to let things roll off my back and just focus on the job, never complain and before you know it I'm in a managers office again.  Have any of you overcome this, knowing the difference of when to speak up and when not to?  I forgive and forget other peoples foibles so fast because this is the easiest way, and least exhaustive.... 

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Re: workplace violence
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 08:30:43 AM »
Dear (((Swimmer)
 I have not experienced this exactly but it sounds lke a FOO pattern repeating which I do all the time. Try to see your old FOO patterns and how they may be playing out. Talk about it on the Board . Maybe, you can see some of the roots and then be able to extricate yourself earlier rather than later.
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Re: workplace violence
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 10:59:23 AM »
I worked briefly for a small company, a sort of ad agency that made promotional products for the music industry. It was owned by a woman who had taken over the business after a bitter divorce. I found out later that she had physically abused the husband. There were only five employees there, but they all had stories to tell. One told me about a time when the woman had a fight with the husband (while they still co-owned the business), and she took off her stiletto shoe and began beating him with it, to the point where he was bleeding.

I was only there for about 6 months, and several times during that period she would just lose it and start to throw things. Several times she threw objects at me - books, coffee mugs, whatever was in front of her. Being a small business, there was no place to go for help, so I left. Three other employees left on the same day I did, one of them male, who was terrified of her. After that, I refused employment with any "mom and pop" businesses. I'll only work for companies that are large enough to have an HR department - someplace that you can turn to for help/advice.

These things are harder to deal with these days, with unemployment being what it is. You don't always have the luxury of being able to walk away from a bad situation. But in many cases (maybe MOST cases), there's no hope that the person will change, so if there's ANY way to leave, you just have to leave.

I do think that people who are very passive and easy to get along with are likely to be singled out by "troubled" workers. They know the person isn't likely to fight back. We're just easy targets.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2010, 11:01:34 AM by JustKathy »

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Re: workplace violence
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 03:00:32 PM »
YES. I worked at a shelter for abused women, but the staff was narcissistic, back-biting, treated you like a slave with no feelings, and the list goes on.  They even treated the residents at the shelter like crap.   I have had crying outbursts, headaches, sleep issues, etc, due to how I was treated.   I have complained, but it didn't do anything. The owner of the shelter was a sleazeball.   I just deall with it in various ways, and tried to use assertiveness (it worked sometimes).

Here's WHY:

1) It was the only job  in this economic state that worked with my school/internship hours. Many jobs don't have sympathy for adjusting with students. They would rather pick someone that's not in school.  This women's shelter job had flexible hours.

2) It was my escape from NM's house. I needed the money to help me move out, right?  I can't stay home and not make any money.

3) I wanted to show job stability on my resume, and not look like a job hopper.  Employers do question you if you're at a job temporarily. I don't feel comfortable saying "My boss was abusive, so that's why I left." As tough as it is to get a job these days, I want to make myself a likely candidate.

4) It did have SOME positive things to it. The residents at the shelter liked me a lot, and that made me feel like a better person.  I had a lot of downtime to do my homework, type up school papers, etc.     I often was alone on my shifts, where I could relax.  I only had to deal with bitchy workers for an hour or two.  I was allowed to bring my laptop, so I could vent online if I was upset.


People would tell me, "If you had self-respect, you would get out" I didn't think it was a good idea. I used the money I made from that "abusive job" to move out to a better environment!  The idea of quitting and spending months looking for another job didn't seem realistic to me at the time.  I really needed a good amount of money to successfully move out of state.

« Last Edit: January 07, 2010, 03:29:29 PM by nolongeraslave »

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Re: workplace violence
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 03:12:01 PM »
Do any of you guys experience workplace violence?  I know everyone does in this world to a certain degree, but I somehow think I am a target wherever I go.  I have a great reputation for getting along with everyone, get great feedback on yearly evals, but.... somehow I get caught in a web where I am the scapegoat and am totally oblivious to this fact until it's too late!! 

I tend to let things roll off my back and just focus on the job, never complain and before you know it I'm in a managers office again.  Have any of you overcome this, knowing the difference of when to speak up and when not to?  I forgive and forget other peoples foibles so fast because this is the easiest way, and least exhaustive.... 

Swimmer


This is very much like me in the workplace Swimmer.  I, too, let things go because I am too busy to play other people's games and I want to get along with everyone.  However, I have an alarm system, of sorts, when I encounter someone that could be trouble for me.  For some reason, all the bells and whistles go off in my head when there is someone that I believe may be detrimental to my reputation and overall working ethic.  It may be the way they talk or the way the interact with me that sets me off.  Bottom line: I avoid them.  I avoid what they say if not related to me or my work and I do it very casually and slowly with a ton of niceness so they don't notice the turning of my back.  Funny, I can not do this at parties or other social situations but at work, I can.  I was burned so bad before at another job that I loved so I learned to be selfish in that respect--to protect what is mine.

I worked with a pathological liar of a woman who eventually got fired because of her lies.  She worked for my boss for 8 years and I had only worked there for 2.  Cream rises to the top.  I let her tangle herself in her own lie after lie.  If you work for smart people, they will not see you as the culprit as the other people will dig their own hole.  

I think you should speak up when it gets personal or defamatory.  I always speak up if the other person grandstands in front of me and the boss/manager.  This is, to me, is important as not everyone catches it.  I always toot my own horn when it calls for it but only to the boss and never in front of coworkers, ever!

Good luck,

Bear

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Re: workplace violence
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2010, 01:08:22 AM »
Thanks for all the input- yes its definately a FOO issue-.  It's interesting as I move from one place to another within a workplace (for career reasons, never personal), that's when I seem to start over all again.  I worked in a very big group with lots of cliques and learned how to survive and almost thrive there.... then moved to a small group of course different culture- then all over again!  Now I feel I can start to get back on track like I have before.  Next group I go to, I'll take those suggestions to heart Bear.... to start off with a different way about it.
  You guys are great!!! I really appreciate your time and sharing, each and every post I learn.  I'm at this stage of feeling relieved I'm not the only one out there, so I'm not a big sister yet.  Your pain is understood though and I so appreciate these cyber hugs- A little new for me:)
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Re: workplace violence
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2010, 02:07:27 AM »
You go Swimmy Swimmer!!!

I, too, have learned so much on this board.  Also, I have shared my most personal thoughts on this board to only be greeted by open minds and pure understanding of what it means when we deal with the almighty "N."

I'm so happy you are here to share with us.  Bring it on Swim :P

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Re: workplace violence
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2010, 02:55:45 PM »
Medium Chill for the workplace!

Great description, Bear.

I keep finding myself (gregarious ENFP) in very isolated jobs working for Ns. Mostly alone most of the day, except for writing and phone (with strangers). Really gets to me sometimes. I'm even in a tiny hamlet 4 miles outside of town where there's nowhere to walk to ...

Anyway, your strategy makes so much sense to me. I've learned when my boss expresses any interest to brightly say, "Not much going on but what about YOU?" and then look perkily attentive. He's always happy to be diverted to yammering on about himself and that gets his attention off mining for nuggets of personal knowledge he can use against me when I'm vulnerable. Been there, done that, and I'm Teflon.

Medium Chill rules.

I think about it as keeping any emotions in my workplace within a very narrow band--no high-energy positivity OR negativity leaking through (as both get turned around so one stabs onself with one's own authenticity). Painful to have to practice being a fake, but I've truly experienced the difference.

Working for an N is never good, but it's so much better with some boundaries in place that would be instinctive for many people, but children of Ns have to laboriously build brick by brick.

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Re: workplace violence
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2010, 08:12:54 PM »
I just read your post again Bear.... I think I know why this popped up for me again now.... The other unit I work on (in a hospital) has more footwork and engagement in tasks and thinking.  For the past 9 months, because of work schedule changes due to child care.... I've had to work in a unit which is "quieter" and not as busy.  There are lots of gaps in tasks where people are not actively working.  I'm very gregarious and kind, so this just kicked me in the butt. 

I stuck up for myself today and it got turned around on me, made a little progress with this person and at least got a colleague to see she may be making a snide little grunt laugh after she tells me I've done something wrong.   I had to give her the benefit of the doubt that she might be totally unaware of her behavior (which I think is right anyways).  Of course I had to own up to not telling her this sooner, as my professional responsibility.... 

Progress??  Yes with this person, she is kind overall and I think we'll work together better now.  I put a red flag on her though.  She is using me as a step ladder to make career progress.  I felt if I didn't give her all these leiniences (sp?), she would keep coming after me accusing me of being unprofessional for being a little defensive at times.  It seems like I always have to take the high road... which is okay, I just never get the personal reward of meeting people more than halfway without practically confiding everything I could have done wrong to reach a working resolution. 

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