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Sealynx

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Re: The irony
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2010, 08:49:07 PM »
I don't get it either Kathy. I just know it can't come from me! I just heard from a friend that my mother has guilt tripped my cousin into driving her the 100 miles to my hateful uncles funeral, leaving her own family who have assembled for my aunts funeral!!

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Re: The irony
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2010, 08:51:33 PM »
Overcomer,
Put all the distance you can put between them and you. Release ALL thoughts of them good and bad. Do something you would love to do, even if it is a daily walk in the park. Sending healing thoughts your way.
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Re: The irony
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2010, 09:37:57 AM »
Today we are having a meeting to decide what the course of action is for our store.  My mom lives in denial land and I wonder how she is going to proceed.  She cannot sell the business or close the business because she has to take care of my aunt's family and she thinks mine.  I know I can go get something else.......of this, I am sure of.

The stress of working with my mom is too much.  I see the anger in her when people don't bow as she walks by.  She cannot take anyone questioning her authority.  Problem is, her authority means nothing.  It is a fascade.  A hoax.  She runs the business with smoke and mirrors.

Meanwhile I am seeing a little passive aggressive tendency with our manager.  She considers my mother a liar and she has no respect for her.

We both want to leave.  If we did the business would surely fall apart.  I told my mom I want to be loyal to family but it is hard when I do not agree with them.

Meanwhile, I am having some really weird disturbing dreams.......I think it has something to do with some new meds I am on but I do not feel refreshed when I wake up.......frustration was happening last night as I was working in a restaurant and my c0-workers would not help me on the computer that I had never been trained on,,,,
Kelly

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Re: The irony
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2010, 10:10:49 AM »
Are they psch meds ?     Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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HeartofPilgrimage

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Re: The irony
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2010, 10:39:39 AM »
I always had weird dreams when coming of antidepressants, and also I used to have weird (often of violent situations that would upset me terribly) during the PMS part of my cycle.

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Re: The irony
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2010, 11:04:45 AM »
Overcomer,
   I hear you! My NM is 851/2, has complained all her life of SOME malady, had open heart surgery in 2000, and just keeps on ticking. My 56 year old sister died last march of lung cancer, I have had cancer and God only knows how long my baby sister will last, given the stress she is under. Personally, I don't want a red cent from her, nor do i want any keepsakes from her. Don't want any reminders of her around the house. The biggest and best gift I could ever get from her, is to be free of her!     Hugs, Judy

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Re: The irony
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2010, 02:05:41 PM »
About my last post: I meant I also had weird dreams during the PMS time. Left out the crucial word.

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Re: The irony
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2010, 02:26:54 PM »
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The stress of working with my mom is too much.  I see the anger in her when people don't bow as she walks by.  She cannot take anyone questioning her authority.

Ns are not capable of running a business. The nature of their disorder makes it impossible.

My NM opened her own business 20 years ago, and I got hoodwinked into working for her. She opened her own business because she was unable to work for anyone else. Being better than everyone else, she wasn't capable of being an employee and taking orders from someone. She had taken a job with a talent agency, with an agenda - she had big dreams of making my brother (the GC) a child star, so took the job at the agency so she could promote him. After two weeks of being an assistant, and being treated as such, she walked out in a huff and declared that she could do it better by herself.

My co-dependent father mortgaged the house to buy this business for her. She had NO idea what she was doing. I took care of everything, because she was so lacking in education that she couldn't balance the books. She wouldn't take my advice on anything, claiming that she had years of experience in the business and knew what she was doing (even though I never saw her work a day in her life when I was growing up). She would blow up at people who didn't treat her with respect. She would throw tantrums when things didn't go her way, or sometimes cry and put on a sympathy act. She was losing money because people were out to get her, not because of her incompetence.

Then she got a hair brained idea of bringing in other agents to work as private contractors, sort of like a hair stylist who pays to rent a station at a salon, but isn't an actual employee. I advised her against it, but she told me that it would bring in easy money. Well, once these people came in, used her office supplies, set up shop, and didn't bow to the Queen, she wanted them gone. All this time, my father continued to take out loans to keep her afloat. She never paid me a dime, saying that the business was losing money. However, every time the GC showed up needing money for his private acting lessons, private schooling, yada yada, she wrote a check.

After a year without pay, I couldn't survive on food stamps anymore, and went back to a paying job. She went out of business a few months later, and BLAMED ME. To this day, she blames me and the people who were working for her for sabotaging her and undermining her efforts. She was "an expert in the industry," and everyone else was out to get her.

Ns are not capable of holding down jobs, because they cannot take supervision. But they also can't operate their own businesses. Yes, being the business owner places them in charge, but that's not enough. If employees don't behave as expected, they fly into a rage. Don't mean to ramble, but this is my experience, anyway. Ns do not belong in the workplace, in any capacity, especially one with a very severe case of narcissism like my mother had.

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Re: The irony
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2010, 08:24:21 PM »
wow....i think you were talking about my mom, Kathy!!!!

And Ami, I am on cymbalta and am weaning myself off but not enough yet to make a difference.  The doc put me on two new sugar lowering drugs and a cholesterol lowering drug.  The statin makes me ache all over and I just hate it.  He also told me that maybe my body is getting it's equalibrium back after all the chemo and steroids and this is just how I will feel.  NOT!@!  I cannot.  I am exercising and am planning to get more physically fit and healthier.

Being a Christian, I prayed while laying in the tanning bed (going to Hawaii on Saturday!!)  I just have to seek God's will.  Can He really want our business to fail when we sell Christian stuff??  My mom is the money behind it all so I think she has made bad business decisions for years and then blames others......it is so much easier to place blame than to accept responsibility.  I think she may be done.  In a way I am so glad.  I just want her to stop supporting my aunt and her family and I feel like my psyche will be so much better if I am not joined at the hip with nmom.....

Disclaimer.....mom and I are getting along so much better.  I really think she is getting better@@
Kelly

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Re: The irony
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2010, 01:00:31 AM »
I agree, thx for posting the website.  How validating!!  I thought I was dreaming all this up, and I'm really horrible.

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Re: The irony
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2010, 09:55:34 AM »
Swimmer, that's how I felt reading it. VERY validating, especially the parts that talk about the abuse being done in secret, so that no one believes the child. The story of my life. It felt great to read that, and say, "My gosh, it WASN'T in my head."

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Re: The irony
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2010, 04:06:52 PM »
I also felt it was a very validating web site.  I feel elated because someone 'gets' it, but, then I feel down because it verifies how bad things were & that I gotta lota work to do in order to heal.  So,for me, being validated is a 2 sided sword, like "yes, it really happened & it was bad, but, what are you going to do about it?  If you want to heal, you've gotta work at it & it won't be easy."  I guess this is why some people stay in denial:  it's too painful to face the truth & once you face the truth, you must chose to either re-bury the truth so you don't have to do the work or do the hard work in order to heal.

Kelly, sorry to hijack again.  Have a wonderful time in Hawaii.  Good to hear you & M are getting along better.  Just take good care of yourself.  (((((Kelly)))))))

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Re: The irony
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2010, 04:25:50 PM »
wow....i think you were talking about my mom, Kathy!!!!

And Ami, I am on cymbalta and am weaning myself off but not enough yet to make a difference.  The doc put me on two new sugar lowering drugs and a cholesterol lowering drug.  The statin makes me ache all over and I just hate it.  He also told me that maybe my body is getting it's equalibrium back after all the chemo and steroids and this is just how I will feel.  NOT!@!  I cannot.  I am exercising and am planning to get more physically fit and healthier.

Being a Christian, I prayed while laying in the tanning bed (going to Hawaii on Saturday!!)  I just have to seek God's will.  Can He really want our business to fail when we sell Christian stuff??  My mom is the money behind it all so I think she has made bad business decisions for years and then blames others......it is so much easier to place blame than to accept responsibility.  I think she may be done.  In a way I am so glad.  I just want her to stop supporting my aunt and her family and I feel like my psyche will be so much better if I am not joined at the hip with nmom.....

Disclaimer.....mom and I are getting along so much better.  I really think she is getting better@@
   


In what ways is NM getting better? I would love to have some hope for mine!      Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: The irony
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2010, 06:48:39 PM »
CAN they get better, or is it smoke and mirrors? I recall several times in my life when I thought my NM was getting better, but it was all an act. On several occasions, she started behaving in a more civilized manner towards me, and I thought that she was changing, and that we were getting along. Then BAM, she'd attack in the worst way. Kelly, I really hope that your M is changing for the better, but do approach with caution. I don't mean to sound like I'm doubting you, but from everything I've read, Ns are not capable of changing. Just be careful not to get comfortable with it and let your guard down.

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Re: The irony
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2010, 07:34:11 PM »
Yes , friends, I have had hope so many times and gotten my head cut off. Down deep, I may still have hope. Maybe it is pure stupidity BUT there are always possibilities in life beyond what is expected .I want everything the best for you, Kelly . Vaknin say some N's can change as they get older.  Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung