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JustKathy

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Making delusions of grandeur "real" on Internet
« on: March 09, 2010, 06:57:54 PM »
This is long, but some may find it interesting. If I were a psych major, I'd be writing a paper on this. We all know how convincing Ns can be, but now they can take it to the next level with the help of the Internet. My N SIL has managed to make her delusions of grandeur appear very real by using the Internet to reinvent herself, and create and sell a new persona. Some of you may have Ns in your life who are doing the same thing.

When my brother (the GC) first married this woman, she had moved to CA from Maine, and my brother got her an entry-level job at the film studio where he worked. She went on to have ten jobs in the next two years, always telling stories about how she had to quit because the company was violating labor laws, someone was sabotaging her, etc. (translation: she can't get along with anyone). A few years into the marriage, SIL's N traits went wildly out of control, and she was having major confrontations with my N mother. M told her baby boy to get rid of his wife. My brother, being completely co-dependent, wouldn't divorce her, so sent her to Africa for a few months over Christmas holidays to do some volunteer work for a wildlife sanctuary that helped cheetahs.

So here's where it gets weird. SIL came back from this trip convinced that she was the new Steve Irwin. She started setting up web sits, blogs, etc., touting herself as a world renowned wildlife expert. Her blog bio says "I am an Internationally recognized wildlife expert, author, consultant, and educator who gives lectures on wildlife conservation." However, the blog uses only her first name, states her location as "Sunny California," and has no contact info. She's covered her tracks. If anyone wants to use her so-called consultation services, there's no way to contact her.

I recently found a Facebook page for a wildlife rehab group that she co-founded (it's just her and one other girl). She calls herself Vice President of this organization. She has something like 24,000 followers. She has a resume on Linkedin that is a complete fabrication. A smart person would see red flags all over the place, but many wouldn't. For example, she says that she is a former "volunteer zookeeper" for the Los Angeles Zoo, and that she cared for big cats, bears, and rhinos. Having once worked at that zoo, I can tell you that volunteers are NOT allowed near the animals, especially dangerous ones, for obvious reasons. But for someone out of the area, maybe it sounds plausible.

The other day I Googled a major wildlife rehab center in the L.A. area looking for some information, and the first Google hit, below their official site, was something about my SIL. She has now insinuated her way into that organization! This is mind blowing to me. She has managed to use the Internet to create a fake persona that thousands of people are buying into. She has given lectures at local libraries, sporting goods stores, even elementary schools, and she's a total fraud! She's convinced a major wildlife sanctuary to let her work with lions and tigers, having only a few months of experience as a volunteer behind her. She's actually turning herself into a celebrity by spreading her name all over the net.

This reminds me of a case a few years back with a guy who was arrested for celebrity stalking. The guy had insinuated himself into top Hollywood events, like Oscar parties, and had been photographed with major celebrities. He was a total poseur, but had convinced these people that he was "somebody." I'm amazed at how people can do this - create a fake life, and have thousands of people buying into it.

I think the Internet is an N's dream. If my mother had been young enough to figure out the Internet, I'm sure she would have done something similar. It's just like child molesters who go into chat rooms and hook their victims by pretending to be children. An N who knows their way around the Internet can turn their delusions of grandeur into reality.

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Re: Making delusions of grandeur "real" on Internet
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 09:17:25 AM »
This reminds me of my sister in law as well, only she hasn't risen to fame.  This 43 year old woman is a raging alcoholic and cannot hold a job.  She also blames everyone else for her not working out, etc.  But the fact that she has had several jobs (albeit they all last six months) her resume looks pretty impressive.  She is on facebook and looks very politically savvy.  She bashes republicans, laughs at conservatives, etc.  I posted once that Martin Luther King Jr was a republican and she deleted it and got furious with me.  She messaged me and told me to never comment on her page.  I wanted to call her out then and there as a fraud....phoney.....

My mom is a phoney too but it is crashing around her.  I think eventually the house of cards must come down.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 09:38:10 AM »
Kathy - this reminds me of when the internet was just getting popular in higher ed. The librarians made a mantra of "you can't believe everything that's online - just because it's online". That is true for all forms of media, I think... just look how many "scandals" are really just "exposes" of someone making something up in public and then someone else being enterprising enough to check out the facts.

Sadly, that mantra faded away in higher ed and too many of us simply accept as "fact" what we read, watch & hear.
Whatever happened to the idea that you should always "question" and check out sources? I think Marshall McLuhan has been proven right.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 10:20:50 AM »
I think if SIL were trying to get a paying job, there would be too many red flags and inconsistencies in the resume for her to be considered. But since she can no longer hold down a paying job, all of the work she does is volunteer. She does apparently work as a pet sitter. That, in itself, a huge red flag. She claims to be a former creative executive to the entertainment industry, and a former zookeeper, followed by "currently employed as a pet sitter." An HR department would see right through that, but maybe for volunteer work she's able to convince people.

What absolutely blows my mind that she is getting speaking engagements when she's a total fraud. (I'm sure some of these places would love to see the five page death threats that she's sent me). She also has international followers on her blog and twitter account. That's the beauty of the Internet. How is someone in Germany going to know that the work she's done in the US is fabricated.

This is scary on so many levels. Hubby commented the other day that he foresees her being seriously injured by one of the lions and tigers that she's working with, on the claim (and the delusion) of being an expert handler. We just see it coming, and one of these places that took her in as a volunteer with no background check is going to be very, very sorry.

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 10:58:45 AM »
Kelly, I really believe that an educated N is far more dangerous than an ignorant one. An itelligent N knows how to work the Internet, how to craft a good bio, and how to get their name on the top of a Google search. They know how to fool an employer and get hired for a job that they aren't qualified for.

My NM, by contrast, never finished high school and is very ignorant. Her stories never hold weight. For example, when I blasted her for spending a fortune on my brother's college education, she fired back that they were poor, and had to send him to community college to get his PhD. I don't have to tell you what's wrong with THAT picture. Intelligent, educated Ns are the ones who are far more capable of inflicting damage in the business world. All Ns are capable of inflicting the same level of pain on their children, but a smart N can be far more convincing to outside observers.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 05:06:03 PM »
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(I'm sure some of these places would love to see the five page death threats that she's sent me). She also has international followers on her blog and twitter account. That's the beauty of the Internet. How is someone in Germany going to know that the work she's done in the US is fabricated.

Death threats!! What??? OMG, JustKathy.  Your SIL is sick!  Her mind is so far gone it's not even funny.  In all reality, she is dangerous and a danger to society.  This is why interest rates are so high and employers have "trust" issues with employees and want to keep their employees "in line" even for the good ones that are honest and loyal. Your SIL has done what she does best and utilized the most hard to regulate media/communication source we have in our world only to her advantage.  I see this everywhere on the internet and it's really disturbing. 

You SIL's speaking engagements and the fact that she has her bio written out as an internationally recognized wildlife expert, etc., is just plain criminal.  These poor souls whom are booking her and buying into her facade are the real victims here.  I believe the big guns will be the ones that will check her sources before booking her and putting their name behind her for anything, then voila!  Her world of lies and deception will implode.

I think it's rather sad to hear this.  I think it's sad for you to have to stomach someone so close to you who chooses to rob the world of their dignity and insult everyone's intelligence to boot. Even yours. 

Can you call her on it?  Can you ask her specifics like, "How did you become and expert so fast?"  "Wow, you must have had years of education and also a Ph.D. to be categorized as an expert, geez, when did all this happen?"

Sorry, JustKathy, she's crazy.  Plain ol' bonkers and scary at the same time.

Just wait.   She'll be found out when she leasts expects it.

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Re: Making delusions of grandeur "real" on Internet
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 06:24:03 PM »
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Death threats!! What??? OMG, JustKathy.  Your SIL is sick!

She is sick. She completely wigged out a few years after she married my brother. I got some VERY disturbing emails from her. I was told that she was diagnosed with schizophrenia. But what I see are more in the line of extremely strong N traits in her behavior. I am completely NC with her, and have been since she went koo koo.

What's really sad, is that my N mother has taken advantage of her mental illness and used her as a tool. When SIL first started sending out her threatening emails, she included personal information that only my mother would have known. She also attacked me for mistreating my mother, so I know my mother played a little N game and turned one family member against another. I never had any beef with SIL. Yes, she was clearly insane, but I was always very cordial towards her. So when she started attacking me, it was clear that she had been provoked by NM. Sick sick sick.

I've considered publishing some of SIL's emails on a blog, but that would take me down to her level. Also, my T has told me that if she IS schizophrenic, she may in fact be dangerous, so best to let it go. It IS very frustrating to see her basking in undeserved glory, but I do feel that it will come back to bite her at some point. More specifically, I think one of the cheetahs that she claims to be an expert with will come back to bite her.  :twisted:
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Re: Making delusions of grandeur "real" on Internet
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 06:33:39 PM »
I should add that this also shows how severe co-dependency can be. My brother was the GC, and married someone just like mom. Just as my father can't function without his N wife, neither can my brother. He is well aware of her threats against family members, of her deceptions, of her insanity, yet sticks by her like glue. At least the cycle has been broken. They never had children, and SIL is now 45, so it's not likely to happen. Thank goodness. If they had had children, OMG, I shudder to think.

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Re: Making delusions of grandeur "real" on Internet
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 06:54:02 PM »
"I think the Internet is an N's dream."  I completely agree.

Kathy, please keep yourself safe.
This might be an interesting web site for you:  http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/
Lovefraud deals with sociopaths & sorry to say, sounds like your SIL is one.  Please be careful.

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 07:54:05 PM »
Thanks for posting that Ann. I'll go give it a read. Right now I'm pretty safe because I'm living in another state. We are planning to move back to California, at which time I'll get a restraining order against her. My father is the one who I feel is really in danger. He allows this whackadoo into the house because he and NM don't want to upset their precious son. My mother is not long for this world, and grieving elderly father will be very vulnerable. I know SIL is going to swoop right in and clean house, but I can't worry about it. My parents abused me for 50 years and chose my brother and his psycho wife over me, so he gets what he gets.

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Re: Making delusions of grandeur "real" on Internet
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 08:37:58 PM »
Kathy,

You've got a good head on your shoulders & you know what's what.  You SIL makes me cringe. 

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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 08:57:07 AM »
I just heard about the following this morning - it shows another side of celebrity & the internet. (Meanwhile, get that restraining order started Kathy!!)

Conan O'Brien must be bored without his show anymore. He decided that he'd follow one person on Twitter - chosen at random. Since he chose this one woman - she now has 1000s of new Twitter friends (are they her friends or fans of Conan??) - who are helping her out with her upcoming wedding. People from all over the world, in fact!

It kind of touched me, that regardless of his motives, he's really changed this one person's life - for the good - through the use of his celebrity and the internet. Smart boy, that Conan. And I suppose it's a way to give the raspberries to NBC, too.
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Re: Making delusions of grandeur "real" on Internet
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2010, 10:23:08 AM »
hi kathy,

my own internet NM experience is not with grandeur but her inability to accept her age (this has always been hard for her). so she uses the internet to promote herself in a very ridiculous way, having a facebook at 59, sporting a pic, posing like a naughty little girl...if I had the guts i would give all of you her handle to go check it because it's plain creepy...

unfortunately nobody really censores the internet so it's more than delusions of grandeur that is on sale around there...

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Re: Making delusions of grandeur "real" on Internet
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2010, 01:19:29 PM »
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It kind of touched me, that regardless of his motives, he's really changed this one person's life - for the good - through the use of his celebrity and the internet. Smart boy, that Conan. And I suppose it's a way to give the raspberries to NBC, too.

I agree. I follow Conan on Twitter, and I think what he did was genius. He started the week that Leno came back on the air, posting one joke a day. REALLY hysterical stuff. Then he chose this girl, Sarah, to follow at random.

He did contact her first and asked for her permission, knowing that she would be thrust into the spotlight. I heard that she was just booked on Larry King to talk about her experience. This is where the genius comes in. Conan is contractually prohibited from appearing on TV until September, but now he has Sarah to do it on his behalf. But I agree, regardless of his motivation, he did change her life for the better. She's had offers of free wedding rings from top jewelers, designers offering her bridal gowns. It really was a random act of kindness. He did pre-select her, and I think he looked at different people on Twitter, and found someone who would benefit from it rather than exploit it. It was a brilliant marketing move on Conan's part, but also a very sweet thing to do.

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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2010, 01:32:38 PM »
Persephone, what your mother is doing is totally creepy, but I'll bet it's not uncommon. If my NM was online, I know she'd be doing the same thing. She's always looked prematurely aged, probably because of her lifestyle. As a result, she hates, and I mean HATES, anyone her age who looks good. I can all but guarantee that if NM was on Facebook, she'd be using her ballerina photo from high school. That's how she still sees herself. She has the ballerina photos all over the house. It's very "Baby Jane" to me.