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« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2004, 07:31:16 PM »
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Actually bump is just to bump the thread to the top because maybe it has something of importance to say or remember to the person who bumped it up there. It's not a bad thing.



Exactly. It's to keep a thread with something the bumpee thinks is important at the top of the thread list.

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« Reply #61 on: November 02, 2004, 09:31:21 PM »
Bump...
and the best part of this is that 's' isn't playing with us anymore :P
Let's do whatever works.

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« Reply #62 on: November 02, 2004, 10:49:54 PM »
Here, here!!!!!

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« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2004, 01:53:36 AM »
Hey, good message B. I like your very precise and factual information.

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« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2004, 02:25:53 AM »
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For the two posters who addressed S:  you know S is an N. I know S is an N. S doesn't know S is an N. I do not respond or address her in any way. I think many others don't as well. It is useless. If S had empathy and good intent, she would know she causes pain and chaos here and be gone.


Possibly many n's wouldn't even tolerate a child sex offender to remain in their home. My SIL wouldn't and I think she's an n.

Any offer or plot or scheme to kill harm rob or sexually offend anybody particularly a child is a jailable crime in my country and S's too.  People are being jailed over this very thing happening on the internet. Any adult caught making any offer of sex to a child over the internet nowdays is liable to be caught by undercover net police and get a jail sentence. Why? Because an offer is an act, not a thought.

Also, an offer forms the essential basis of any contract under common law. You can have no acceptance without first having an offer on which to accept it.

Which is precisely why S's husbands offer was a serious jailable offence. If I offer to kill someone I will be arrested and tried. It need not even have been accepted by the other party I make the proposition too. I have presented and given my full consent of the contract to be accepted by the other party. That is all I need to have done to have committed a crime.

Thankfully, S's child wisely declined the offer which never should have been made. The offer was a gravely serious illegal act.

I am saddened for those members here who experienced sexual abuse as children. I am saddened that you see S's presence still here on a daily basis as a reminder.

Please take heart in this statement.

S couldn't see well enough to do the right thing by her own children. How can we expect her to see what harm her selfishness in staying here causes? Also, how can we expect her to put others first here when she couldn't do that for her own children?

Also, I don't accept you have a right to a presence here S. You could and should find a more appropriate forum for your real issues. I don't believe your sister is your 'real' problem. Also S, I doubt your intentions here.

B

Bump :D

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« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2004, 08:56:45 AM »
bumpedy bump bump

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« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2004, 09:33:03 AM »
A young woman went to her mother and told her about her life and how
things were so hard for her. She did not know how she was going to make it and wanted to give up. She was tired of fighting and struggling. It seemed as one problem was solved, a new one arose.

Her mother took her to the kitchen. She filled three pots with water and
placed each on a high fire. Soon the pots came to boil. In the first she placed carrots, in the second she placed eggs, and in the last she placed ground coffee beans. She let them sit and boil, without saying a word.

In about twenty minutes she turned off the burners. She fished the carrots
out and placed them in a bowl. She pulled the eggs out and placed them in a bowl. Then she ladled the coffee out and placed it in a bowl.

Turning to her daughter, she asked, "Tell me, what do you see?"

"Carrots, eggs, and coffee," she replied.

Her mother brought her closer and asked her to feel the carrots. She did
and noted that they were soft. The mother then asked the daughter to take an egg and break it.  After pulling off the shell, she observed the hard-boiled egg.  Finally, the mother asked the daughter to sip the coffee. The daughter smiled, as she tasted its rich aroma. The daughter then asked, "What does it mean, mother?"

Her mother explained that each of these objects had faced the same
adversity, boiling water, and each reacted differently.

The carrot went in strong, hard, and unrelenting. However, after being
subjected to the boiling water, it softened and became weak.

The egg had been fragile. Its thin outer shell had protected its liquid
interior, but after sitting through the boiling water, its inside became
hardened.

The ground coffee beans were unique, however. After they were in the
boiling water, they had changed the water.

Which are you?" she asked her daughter. "When adversity knocks on your
door, how do you respond? Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?"

Think of this: Which are you?

Are you the carrot that seems strong, but with pain and adversity do you wilt and become soft and lose your strength?

Are you the egg that starts with a malleable heart, but changes with the
heat? Did you have a fluid spirit, but after a death, a breakup, a financial
hardship or some other trial, have you become hardened and stiff? Does your shell look the same, but on the inside are you bitter and tough with a stiff spirit and hardened heart?

Or are you like the coffee bean? The bean actually changes the hot water, the very circumstance that brings the pain. When the water gets hot, it
releases the fragrance and flavor. If you are like the bean, when things
are at their worst, you get better and change the situation around you.

When the hour is the darkest and trials are their greatest, do you elevate
yourself to another level? How do you handle adversity?

Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?

Thankyou to all the coffee beans on this board.

S
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
 
 (Dr.Suess)

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« Reply #67 on: November 03, 2004, 11:42:38 AM »
Interesting,

Coffee is stimulating and not very nourishing.  Fitting.

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« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2004, 01:20:23 PM »
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Interesting,

Coffee is stimulating and not very nourishing.  Fitting.


It makes people jumpy and nervous too.
Caffien is also addictive.

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« Reply #69 on: November 03, 2004, 01:24:00 PM »
Anonymous wrote:
For the two posters who addressed S: you know S is an N. I know S is an N. S doesn't know S is an N. I do not respond or address her in any way. I think many others don't as well. It is useless. If S had empathy and good intent, she would know she causes pain and chaos here and be gone.


Possibly many n's wouldn't even tolerate a child sex offender to remain in their home. My SIL wouldn't and I think she's an n.

Any offer or plot or scheme to kill harm rob or sexually offend anybody particularly a child is a jailable crime in my country and S's too. People are being jailed over this very thing happening on the internet. Any adult caught making any offer of sex to a child over the internet nowdays is liable to be caught by undercover net police and get a jail sentence. Why? Because an offer is an act, not a thought.

Also, an offer forms the essential basis of any contract under common law. You can have no acceptance without first having an offer on which to accept it.

Which is precisely why S's husbands offer was a serious jailable offence. If I offer to kill someone I will be arrested and tried. It need not even have been accepted by the other party I make the proposition too. I have presented and given my full consent of the contract to be accepted by the other party. That is all I need to have done to have committed a crime.

Thankfully, S's child wisely declined the offer which never should have been made. The offer was a gravely serious illegal act.

I am saddened for those members here who experienced sexual abuse as children. I am saddened that you see S's presence still here on a daily basis as a reminder.

Please take heart in this statement.

S couldn't see well enough to do the right thing by her own children. How can we expect her to see what harm her selfishness in staying here causes? Also, how can we expect her to put others first here when she couldn't do that for her own children?

Also, I don't accept you have a right to a presence here S. You could and should find a more appropriate forum for your real issues. I don't believe your sister is your 'real' problem. Also S, I doubt your intentions here.

B

Bump

Solace

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« Reply #70 on: November 03, 2004, 01:50:22 PM »
Well, I've tried being kind, as I did by asking my sister to write rather than phone me.  That isn't working here, just as it didn't work with her either, and so I blocked her phone number (ofcourse, blocking the phone number only worked when she called from her home, so she kept calling from cell phones and other places, to rant after I that).  Finally, I just said:  "write it down and mail it" and I hung up, each time.  That's when she decided to publicly reject me, but --bet you guessed it--the phone calls continued for quite awhile after that.  She didn't want to be "involved" but she kept calling to what again?

As much as I dislike being blunt and tactless, my marshal art training really did teach necessity.


"I don't accept you have a right to a presence here S."

This idea may be what is causing you to behave like a preditor.

You are preying on me.  You are putting yourself on the same level as any preditor and showing the same lack of respect.

Go work on you.

S
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
 
 (Dr.Suess)

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« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2004, 02:18:27 PM »
Anonymous wrote:
For the two posters who addressed S: you know S is an N. I know S is an N. S doesn't know S is an N. I do not respond or address her in any way. I think many others don't as well. It is useless. If S had empathy and good intent, she would know she causes pain and chaos here and be gone.


Possibly many n's wouldn't even tolerate a child sex offender to remain in their home. My SIL wouldn't and I think she's an n.

Any offer or plot or scheme to kill harm rob or sexually offend anybody particularly a child is a jailable crime in my country and S's too. People are being jailed over this very thing happening on the internet. Any adult caught making any offer of sex to a child over the internet nowdays is liable to be caught by undercover net police and get a jail sentence. Why? Because an offer is an act, not a thought.

Also, an offer forms the essential basis of any contract under common law. You can have no acceptance without first having an offer on which to accept it.

Which is precisely why S's husbands offer was a serious jailable offence. If I offer to kill someone I will be arrested and tried. It need not even have been accepted by the other party I make the proposition too. I have presented and given my full consent of the contract to be accepted by the other party. That is all I need to have done to have committed a crime.

Thankfully, S's child wisely declined the offer which never should have been made. The offer was a gravely serious illegal act.

I am saddened for those members here who experienced sexual abuse as children. I am saddened that you see S's presence still here on a daily basis as a reminder.

Please take heart in this statement.

S couldn't see well enough to do the right thing by her own children. How can we expect her to see what harm her selfishness in staying here causes? Also, how can we expect her to put others first here when she couldn't do that for her own children?

Also, I don't accept you have a right to a presence here S. You could and should find a more appropriate forum for your real issues. I don't believe your sister is your 'real' problem. Also S, I doubt your intentions here.

B

Bump

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« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2004, 02:37:15 PM »
What if we stopped replying to 's' and all her attempts to stir up controversy?  Maybe, if we didn't supply feedback she might go to a site where she is among others like her, and feel more at home there.
If we remain silent to her and to any guest who sounds like her, maybe we can get back to the point of helping each other.
So, this is not a reply to 's'.  Rather, it is an attempt to ignore her, and  encourage others to do likewise.

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« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2004, 03:17:16 PM »
Like I said before:  you know s is an n, I know that, but by the sheer fact that she is still here where she's obviously not wanted (stubbornly just like my n is always where she's not wanted) indicates a severe disconnect in cognitive thought......N. She can not be reasoned with because she is unreasonable and N. I base my presumption of N not because she chooses a convicted sex offender of her daughter, but because of all her other behavior and attitudes. We give her more fuel for her insatiable fire by responding to her in any way.

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« Reply #74 on: November 03, 2004, 03:20:50 PM »
Anonymous wrote:
For the two posters who addressed S: you know S is an N. I know S is an N. S doesn't know S is an N. I do not respond or address her in any way. I think many others don't as well. It is useless. If S had empathy and good intent, she would know she causes pain and chaos here and be gone.


Possibly many n's wouldn't even tolerate a child sex offender to remain in their home. My SIL wouldn't and I think she's an n.

Any offer or plot or scheme to kill harm rob or sexually offend anybody particularly a child is a jailable crime in my country and S's too. People are being jailed over this very thing happening on the internet. Any adult caught making any offer of sex to a child over the internet nowdays is liable to be caught by undercover net police and get a jail sentence. Why? Because an offer is an act, not a thought.

Also, an offer forms the essential basis of any contract under common law. You can have no acceptance without first having an offer on which to accept it.

Which is precisely why S's husbands offer was a serious jailable offence. If I offer to kill someone I will be arrested and tried. It need not even have been accepted by the other party I make the proposition too. I have presented and given my full consent of the contract to be accepted by the other party. That is all I need to have done to have committed a crime.

Thankfully, S's child wisely declined the offer which never should have been made. The offer was a gravely serious illegal act.

I am saddened for those members here who experienced sexual abuse as children. I am saddened that you see S's presence still here on a daily basis as a reminder.

Please take heart in this statement.

S couldn't see well enough to do the right thing by her own children. How can we expect her to see what harm her selfishness in staying here causes? Also, how can we expect her to put others first here when she couldn't do that for her own children?

Also, I don't accept you have a right to a presence here S. You could and should find a more appropriate forum for your real issues. I don't believe your sister is your 'real' problem. Also S, I doubt your intentions here.

B

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