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Gaining Strength

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Re: Getting Stronger - Breaking through paralysis
« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2010, 05:07:59 PM »
Oh my heavens Hops - me too.  I am finding myself needing to acknowledge and confess - yes siree that lazy bug does bite.


I had an incident this afternoon that has knocked me for a loop, straight down into a real bonefide depression.
My little boy is in the 4th grade and his school is having its annual fundraiser.  They run around the field 30 -35 times and collect pledges for laps run.  So my son who is crazy about his stepgrandmother, (they go iceskating every Saturday) called my father and asked him to pledge $1 per lap.  My father, whom my son is named for (don't even ask what I was thinking) said no because last Spring when we invited him to come to the schools 80th anniversary we didn't show up. 

Well we did.  But he didn't show up where and when we had invited him.  (Nevermind that this is the school he attended.)  So 5 months later he is holding a grudge (for his mistake) and taking it out on a 9 year old.  Nevermind also that he doles out thousands and thousands of dollars to sychophants who bow down to his knees.

This is such a mainline shot to the feelings that I had as a youth.  I knew immediately why I have felt responsible for things that are completely out of my control all of my life, because I was going to be held responsible for them by my father and I would pay significant consequences.

I remember going back and forth in my mind last spring about inviting him but I decided that it was the thing to do.  Somewhere in that brain I must have thought I it was the right thing to do I suspect I was confused by what the "normal" thing to do would be and by some sort of societal expectations - who knows.  Surely I will have learned a lesson.  Maybe I thought that he would not do to my son what he does to me as though he had some control over being a normal human or not - NOT.

It is such a discouraging experience.  I am thankful that I can come here and write about it.  I really needed to tell someone, anyone who might have even an inkling of understanding.  I would have called my oldest brother but when I e-mailed him about my experience running into my father about a month ago he didn't even bother responding.  I have one friend who shares personal things with me but first of all I don't think she could quite get it.  She thinks her mother is narcissistic and she may be but it is such a mild form compared to my father.  Besides she has a way of referring to my problems as "from the past".  (Little does she know.)  And for some reason that feels like a put down to me.  I suspect that feeling is from the old s**t but I can't quite put my finger on it - I only know that it is my stuff and not hers.

Well I am going to do what I don't really like don't really think is polite but I am rushed and so I am going to "dump" and run.  My apologies - I think it rude.  I hope you will understand and forgive me - GS

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Re: Getting Stronger - Breaking through paralysis
« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2010, 09:39:31 PM »
When I knew my brother was irredeemably gone from my life (as in anyone I will ever want to "belong to") was when he hurt my daughter (willingly and with relish).

Matter of fact, the day I decided to divorce her father, the same thing happened (he gratuitiously hurt her, age 6, and she cried for an hour...and he wouldn't go talk to her). Done. Finito.

So ... a grandfather who'd deny his son that $1 pledge, and for such an unfair reason?

Imo...

done.

finito...

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Hops
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Re: Getting Stronger - Breaking through paralysis
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2010, 07:45:37 AM »
We do something that looks a little strange in art, when we're trying to solve for why a composition doesn't feel "right" or doesn't "work". We'll take the image and turn it upside down... and then look at the balance of objects, the balance of color, and how the eye moves across the image. Sometimes we even find a way to improve the image!  :D

Your experience reminded me of that because you expressed all the elements you need to solve the remaining questions you have about it. The answers are there; it's just in how you're looking at it that is evoking the questions.

The big question you posed, about the feeling of being put down because you connected with your son's experience (and consequently, recognized your own past feelings)... is one of those "interpretations" that we impose on other people based on how we were treated by the insufficient, cruel, or negligent parents of the past. It would FIT if it was your Dad implying that "it was all in the past" - be a put down, that is. He would be denying you the right to your feelings and his responsibility for his part in your feelings - which are truly outside of time - and until you've resolved them, will continue to occur when tweaked by a present day situation.

But from another person - even a friend - it's something else. It's meant well; to help soothe and restore your equilibrium, I think. To help you resist the magnetic pull into the old black hole loops of feeling bad... paralysis... feeling bad... etc. It's meant to remind you that except for emotional processing and healing ["except" is admittedly a LOT], there's often not a lot we can do about old hurts: we can identify, acknowledge, soothe again (for the nth time... there's always an "again") and then turn our attention to handling the things we can do something about, in the present. Sometimes, we can even find ways to address old hurts by dealing with more current ones... from our new place within ourselves.

You didn't say how your son felt. Was it an important issue for him? Were his feelings hurt? Did he just shrug it off? Like it was no big deal? Or does it bother him? Does he know it upset you and why? And does he want a "mother-tiger" defending him? Or will he decide to work it out for himself?

I know I have to be careful with my girls - when something happens to them and they're expressing feelings or trying to resolve an emotional predicament - I have to make a conscious effort to not let bits of their experience click into my old crap... and then express that back to them from my old wounded perspective. It's just not the same situation for them; even with my mom - it's a whole different set of circumstances for them, than what I deal/dealt with. Sometimes, they even teach me things or put something from the past, to rest!!

I do know these things have to be expressed - somehow, somewhere - or they're like an unnoticed drop of battery acid that in time burns right through skin and bone.

Bounce it off your new armor, GS... you don't have to go "back" anymore!!
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