Setting the record straight about Ami

[lighter]

Leah,

As far as me reading the thread from the beginning, I'm not sure, cause at this point, everything is so confused as to who said/did what, it's hard to tell what the beginning even was.

What I do perceive at this point, is that both ladies feel they did rightly.  Ami said she respected Jan's boundaries.  Jan felt she did not and was right to end the friendship.

I know that I had very similar struggles to what Ami does, so I understand what it feels like when someone  ends a relationship.  I also know how it feels when someone doesn't respect a boundary (which, again, Ami says she DID respect). 

I'm guessing right now, that Ami has let this all just be, and Janet is fine with moving on too.  Is that where it's all at?  Since both women say they are telling the truth, yet their stories don't line up and I'm not an attorney, I think I'm forced to just leave this all alone and trust that it will work out in some way eventually.  I feel no need to intervene nor to fix anyone or anything.  It is what it is and as long as both parties are in their corners, maybe that's best.

~Laur

::thunking forehead on keyboard::

[Leah]

::thunking forehead on keyboard::

in  unbelief

pure and simple

as

this man (whom I have discerned the identity, and in any case, whoever he may be, has my greatest respect)

From Janets first post:

I decided to set a boundary, and told her that I no longer wanted to hear any details at all of the relattionship she is having. She agreed to respect my boundary....and then in the very next sentence, stomped all over it, by saying 'I respect what you are saying about ****. I just want to ask you WHY you think it is doomed--just your opinion' (and other questions, which I don't want to list here).

Then you misrepresented the PM in a public thread.

Now you are telling Leah what her feelings are.

All the while insisting that you have done nothing wrong....

This is what you say Ami :  What I AM saying was Janet set a boundary and I ADHERED to it.

You did not adhere to it.  Tell the truth Ami.

has Wisdom and can * See *


Respectfully,

Leah

[lighter]

 (whom I have discerned the identity, and in any case, whoever he may be, has my greatest respect)

OK... Leah. 

What I heard you say was....

you know who he is.... and you aren't gonna tell. 

I didn't even care before but now......

::grabbing Leah up by lapels::

I GOTTA KNOW, lol!

Just kidding....


sort'a; )

[mudpuppy]

Just for the record, when Jesus says 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone' he is not saying we cannot point to behavior we disagree with or defend ourselves. He's saying we cannot condemn another. Doesn't seem to me that Janet is condemning Ami; merely pointing out a conflict and attempting to explain some cryptic posts.

Is that clanking I hear behind me the spector of Doc G with his big lock? God, I hope so.

mud

[reallyME]

I am sorry for abbreviating your name, Janet. 

I was hoping to somehow put a word of mediation into this originally, and yes, you did ask for people's views on it all, merely by posting it publically, however,  you both choose to stay angry and have your walls, so I leave you to it and am bowing out.

~Laura

[JanetLG]

Laura,

"I leave you to it and am bowing out."


Good.

You are right in that I expect people to add their opinions when I post something, but, in all due respect, I do also ask for people to try to read what has been written with some intelligence, so that they can reach sensible conclusions (not necessarily the same as mine, but 'reasoned' conclusions nevertheless).

Mediation might have been a good idea if it had been asked for (which it wasn't), and also if you weren't so biased towards Ami's point of view - even your first post on this thread addressed Ami, et al, but not me - strange, that, considering it's my thread, don't you think?


Janet

[Ami]

Obviously,Janet, you only want opinions that see things your way. There ARE two sides and everyone has an opinion, which you invited by posting in the first place. Wouldn't you say?

[paps]

There are opinions and there are facts.  Look at the facts, Ami.  Move toward the facts and toward your pain.  Be honest and you will begin to heal.  Tell the truth Ami.

[reallyME]

who is paps?

[Ami]

Once s/thing is taken to the public forum, everyone has their say. Paps, whoever you are, you have your say ,too. Janet, by putting this out there invited all that came forth.
 That is simply what happens. Everyone has a dog in the fight FOR this one, against THAT one,and  for THEMSELVES and their own issues and triggers,.
   Ami

[paps]

Tell the truth Ami.  You will begin to heal when you have the courage to tell the truth.

[Gabben]

Tell the truth Ami.  You will begin to heal when you have the courage to tell the truth.

Paps - is just Leah again...

[Gabben]

Just for the record, when Jesus says 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone' he is not saying we cannot point to behavior we disagree with or defend ourselves. He's saying we cannot condemn another. Doesn't seem to me that Janet is condemning Ami; merely pointing out a conflict and attempting to explain some cryptic posts.

Is that clanking I hear behind me the spector of Doc G with his big lock? God, I hope so.

mud

Mud,

Yes, it is OK to point out the wrong but is OK to start a lynch mob?

Lise

[paps]

Lise, if you truly care about Ami, you will quit enabling her.  I  am not Leah.  It doesn't matter who I am.  This is real important for Ami's healing.

Tell the truth Ami.  I know you can.  I have faith in you.

[Ami]

Amber
 I am sorry that you see it that way. I completely left Janet ALONE   once she requested it. How is THAT abuse? I don't get it. I go back to my original point---Everyone has a dog in the fight. Maybe,at some point the original issues are obscured and it is JUST "dogs fighting" .                  Ami