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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2014, 11:17:39 PM »
I suck at making friends, I even almost freeze up with people, maybe I can attribute it to social anxiety or such.

If I were to make a concerted effort to be some person's friend I wonder what I would do.

How is making friends as an adult different from childhood. Are there rules of making friends as an adult? In the work place?

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2014, 02:35:44 AM »
I suck at making friends, I even almost freeze up with people, maybe I can attribute it to social anxiety or such.

If I were to make a concerted effort to be some person's friend I wonder what I would do.

How is making friends as an adult different from childhood. Are there rules of making friends as an adult? In the work place?

I wish I knew the answers to those questions, Green!  I'm almost the opposite, in the sense I can do the social chit chat and the superficial stuff till the cows come home.  But when it comes to the nitty gritty of friendship - intimacy, hanging in there through tough times, feeling close to people - it sort of doesn't happen.  I crave company but I do find I don't really miss people?  It's like one bit of me is asleep and doesn't really notice what anyone else is doing.

So I don't know.  For now, I'm trying on mutual interests and just trying to hang out with people a little more and see how it goes.  I find rejection really difficult to deal with and see it so easily.  I'm trying to work on that.  Maybe it's the old cliché of having to be friends with yourself before you can do it with anyone else?

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #77 on: January 04, 2014, 10:09:32 AM »
Joint exhilarating and/or meaningful activities that you do regularly (as in regularly) with a group of other people. The activity keeps the focus off self-consciousness. The flow of casual exchange just happens in a shared activity. Over time, because it is happening regularly, you get to know those you're spending the time with. One or another might say yes, if you invite them to meet for coffee before or after. If one says No, you practice going, "Oh, that's okay. Let me know if another time works." And then invite a different one.

Meanwhile, you've got the exhilarating/meaningful activity. You're befriending yourself and increasing your positive vibes simply by doing that.

Not magic, but it's how people connect.

Activity ideas: 1) art class, 2) volunteering, 3) political activism, 4) non-dogmatic church

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #78 on: January 04, 2014, 11:11:40 PM »
Yah, my co-worker wants to listen to live music together and we talk about it but the logistics just are not easy to make it happen.

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #79 on: January 22, 2014, 11:27:50 AM »
I thought I'd update this as things are going well.

I thought a lot about what I want/need from people in my life, and one thing I realised was that I have friends (or know people) who, although they want to get together, they want to spend the time sitting around not doing much - going out for lunch, going to the pub, hanging out in each others houses, that sort of thing.  Although I do like all of those things, practically I just don't have the time to do much of it.  I do a lot with my son daytime and evening and I don't often get a babysitter.  One thing I do every day (or most days, at least) is go out for a walk.

So I had a think about people I would like to get to know better (this is me practising being proactive instead of waiting for people to decide they want to be my friend) and I've been arranging walks with people about three times a week now.  Apart from it being good exercise, it's something I do anyway so it's not an extra demand on my time and I've been able to get to know some of these people better and decide whether I want to spend more or less time with them.

It's been really nice and off the back of it I've been to a couple of people's for lunch and I've invited someone over to my house tomorrow.  I rarely do this as I feel my house is quite rundown and I worry people will criticise me for it, but this is another hang up from my mum that I need to shift so I bit the bullet.  I've also arranged a cinema night with another single mum and our boys; I don't know her very well but she seems nice and I'd like to get to know her better, so we're going to see a (kids) film and go for a coffee after.

I feel like the change has been a long time coming but something has definitely shifted.  I just don't feel as lonely or hopeless about it all now.  I'm also finding I'm much better at not leaping in to offer to do things for people and more content just to get to know someone rather than having some sort of co-dependent or just seeing them because they want to type thing.  It's also helping that I'm doing things that suit me rather than trying to fit into other people's plans all the time.

So all in all things are going well, although I do realise there may be blips along the way, I feel I'm getting to a place where I can cope with those now rather than it being a big disaster.

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #80 on: January 23, 2014, 02:28:56 PM »
Tupp:

Being happy draws others to us.

We can't truthfully always BE joyful, but it's a whole life outlook we can practice cultivating, I think.

::nodding::

So, do you believe you would benefit from more adult interaction?  Self care time?

What jumped out at me was the possibility of finding another mom or two you can set up routine playdates with, trading off so everyone gets more time to do things away from children.

The possibility of enjoying larger playdates, with mom and 2 or 3 children coming together, also sounds like a way to mix things up and get everyone's needs met, IMO.

In any case, everyone is drawn to joyful positive spirits. 

Lighter: )


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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #81 on: January 23, 2014, 06:13:24 PM »
WOW, Tupp!

That is just awesomely positive behavior!

Holy moly.

Good going!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2014, 12:13:35 PM »
Tupp:

Being happy draws others to us.

We can't truthfully always BE joyful, but it's a whole life outlook we can practice cultivating, I think.

::nodding::

So, do you believe you would benefit from more adult interaction?  Self care time?

What jumped out at me was the possibility of finding another mom or two you can set up routine playdates with, trading off so everyone gets more time to do things away from children.

The possibility of enjoying larger playdates, with mom and 2 or 3 children coming together, also sounds like a way to mix things up and get everyone's needs met, IMO.

In any case, everyone is drawn to joyful positive spirits. 

Lighter: )



At the minute I'm finding the whole thing very nice but quite unnerving.  I'm sticking with it, but my anxieties have really surprised me.  I went out to the pub at the weekend to meet a friend and he has three other friends there, none of whom I'd met before.  I found it quite difficult to chat and ended up making one drink last for over an hour because I didn't have the confidence to get up and ask the people standing at the bar to move out of the way.  But I went, and I stuck it out even though I found it difficult and I did enjoy it even though it didn't feel easy or natural.  I've two dog walks booked for this week (that's with friends who have dogs) and I've vague plans to go and visit another two people although I've not arranged it as we might not get time.

Playdates may come - my son's not massively keen on other kids due to his autism but he's getting better and he is doing more on his own.  Tonight he has youth club and I'm going swimming :)  Getting there, getting there, getting there :) xx

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2014, 12:14:47 PM »
WOW, Tupp!

That is just awesomely positive behavior!

Holy moly.

Good going!!!!!!!!!!

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I love 'Holy Moly' :)  Moving forward.  Trying to take it as it is and enjoy it at the time.  A new way of doing things for me.  Still feels a bit strange but I'm getting there :)  Thank you :)

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2014, 01:36:12 PM »
So glad you're making a change, and finding better ways, Tupp.

Just getting started can sometimes be the hardest part, then doors are opening, and there's less time for stress, kwim?

I think playdate exchanges will happen organically, as you and your son get comfortable with other moms and children, or they won't.

Something to keep in mind.

In the meantime, ask yourself what you really want to do at least once a day.

Try to be mindful about giving to yourself.  You give so much to others....

you need attention too; )

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #85 on: January 28, 2014, 12:10:56 PM »
So glad you're making a change, and finding better ways, Tupp.

Just getting started can sometimes be the hardest part, then doors are opening, and there's less time for stress, kwim?

I think playdate exchanges will happen organically, as you and your son get comfortable with other moms and children, or they won't.

Something to keep in mind.

In the meantime, ask yourself what you really want to do at least once a day.

Try to be mindful about giving to yourself.  You give so much to others....

you need attention too; )

Light



Ah thank you, Lighter  (((((((((((((((((Lighter)))))))))))))))))))))))

Was massively triggered today, not really sure why but was out for a walk with two nice ladies, my son and their dogs, beautiful scenery, stopped for a snack and a drink afterwards, chatting away, came home feeling utterly bereft, took myself off to bed with a hot water bottle, had a good cry and a flood of childhood memories came through so strongly; an incident as a teenager when a whole group of 'friends' got up one by one to go to the toilet and didn't come back (we'd been out for the day and were on the train on the way home).  None of them ever spoke to me again after that day, or me to them and I never had any idea why they did it.  When we got to the station they all got out of another carriage and I just walked home on my own.  And a whole lot of stuff to do with my mum attacking my dad and some of her generally crazy behaviour when we were kids.  How that woman has ever had the nerve to criticise anyone else is beyond me.

So yes, a whole lot of stuff came out, we're out this evening which is probably a good thing, I suppose this is what real life is about after abuse; sometimes these things will just happen and you either have to accept it and move with it or stay indoors and avoid people forever (which is what I've been doing up until now).  Feel better for it, it's just odd when it happens and there's no obvious reason.

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #86 on: January 28, 2014, 04:43:48 PM »
(((((Tupp)))))

What those teens did to you was so......

cruel.

Little Lord of the Fly monsters....

::shaking fist at them::

Clueless little bastards.

You juts keep reaching out, and making space for chosen family.

Even when it's not easy: )

::nodding::

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2014, 09:12:30 AM »
Thank you, Lighter :)

I've thought about it a lot over the last few days and suddenly my problems with friendships seem to make more sense.  I can get now why I'm so passive in relationships and why I tend to fall in with others plans and don't assert myself.  I can also see why I feel I can never disagree or speak out in a friendship (I'm sure that's to do with my mum as well), and funnily enough there have been other times in my life when entire groups of people have just stopped returning my calls, although not in such a direct way as that incident was.

So I've rebooked a get together for next week; I had arranged to do it on a day that doesn't really suit me but I called to see if we could change it and we can, all good.  This is with a lady who offers to meet closer to me alternate weeks so it isn't one person doing all the driving - considerate and fair, which is good and something/someone I need to be around :)

I've also made an effort to meet up with some other home educators in the area; nothing definite yet but there are emails moving around and it's just a matter of time until that happens - stepping in the right direction :)

I've also decided to try and see triggers as useful things that help.  I've always been so scared of them because I find the emotions so hard to cope with.  But I can see now how they can show you that something is wrong or isn't fixed and then I can fix it once I figure out what's going on.  So I'm going to try and think of them as good things rather than bad.

Thank you for all your input and responses, it really means a lot (and helps a lot) xx

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #88 on: January 30, 2014, 01:33:11 PM »
Yup, Tup:

The triggers are like arrows pointing to something that needs attention, huh?

And speaking up about our needs and feelings is something we just have to wrap our minds around, and stop thinking of as world war PD.  It's just normal give take ebb and flow in healthy relationships, and people deserve and need to know what's going on in other people's heads in order to relate in a healthy manner.

Sure, it's hard.  It feels alien, but the more we do it the easier it gets.  The more we realize the adrenaline dumps are just old pd junk we can leave behind, it opens us up to replace with something else. 

Something better.

It's painful and any growth takes time.....

if there was no discomfort, we wouldn't be moved to make changes, right?

The discomfort and pain are simply messengers, and I'm glad you've identified the triggers as such.  Yay.

I guess we begin to really trust we won't be swallowed by irrational pd insanity again if we put boundaries in place, and defend them appropriately at the first sign of trouble. 

PD's start by pushing little boundaries, and if we allow it, they move up to a bigger boundary transgression.  If we trust ourselves.... we get better at relating with others without so much stress, and doubt, and fear.  We say NO to the pd's, and have room for better things, even if those things don't feel quite right.  IF we hang in there, they become familiar, and what becomes familiar becomes habit and what becomes habit becomes pleasure.

Yes.

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Re: Making New Friends
« Reply #89 on: January 30, 2014, 02:08:02 PM »
I get it, Tupp. So well.

And I think the flood of tears after the trigger is a GOOD thing.

It's like healing.

And it's proof how the past is interfering with the present (during which you're NOT being treated cruelly).

And you SEE the connection.

All that points so powerfully to you being underway in a true healing process.

You're doing GREAT.

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