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Physical reactions
« on: October 07, 2013, 11:54:03 AM »
Hi all,

Healthwise, I have been feeling very good lately.  My energy levels are up, I'm sleeping better, I feel calmer and more content, I just generally feel good.  But I find that every time I sit down to deal with false accusation related paperwork within half an hour I've got a headache, I feel sick, my neck and shoulders hurt and I get that odd shaky feeling, you know how you sometimes feel if you haven't eaten for ages?

I'm just trying to work in fairly short bursts and do the usual fresh air, good food, plenty of water stuff.  I'm pretty certain it's a reaction to what's happened rather than it being some bizarre coincidence.  Has anyone else got any other ideas?

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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2013, 07:14:18 PM »
hi twoapenny,

Maybe I am different, maybe not, but I learned more about me throughout this stressful adventure called Life.

After the accident, 4½ years ago, when the end of the month would come, my mood would change, and I gathered after a while that it was because the Insurance Co. was coming to cut more of my funding. Whatever happened, I went back to being the abnormal me.

When a Dr. said I ought to do pool therapy, I said I couldn't. It took 3 months to prove it on land. Until they dropped that idea, I was as tense as could be, as though I were lying, and my therapist noticed these changes,

Tense as the court date drew closer: thought I was calm but developed aches and pains: blamed it on accident.

I tell myself that I am  a stressed, anxiety-ridden person and don't even know it, as the results are usually physical.

When I need my arms massaged, She will say relax and I think I have relaxed and she works them over, but then drops my arm. it stays in the air. \it should fall to the bed! That is like my trying to control and not follow orders????? or just always tense.

When I lost the use of my arms, I thought my shoulder rotator cuffs were shot and it was an old folks home for me. but nope a separate condition (PMR) from the accident.

I'm learning to relax about having a "helper" who does most of my work, while I sit at the computer, or lying down reading. I have my therapist, too, and so am well cared for.

I am annoyed that the steroids put weight on my face, waist and feet, but today I finished 5 weeks of treatment but am less annoyed to know that it will drop off soon. anyway, I am old(er) and if I look like Alfred E. Neuman (Mad Magazine) then so be it! (Nevertheless I bought a small package of Ferraro Rocher to celebrate---then will lose it all at once!

I doubt anyone could come to just visit and find me as interesting as I used to be, but in the long run, I think it will return if I don't stress out over every little thing. My life is as it is, 2 'employees', my Will in place and, as I have been doing for a few years, downsizing odds and ends that I no longer use---to the laundry room for another, if useful, or straight to the garbage. I cut my File Folders by half realizing not all paper, documents require saving, and what good are my report card now?

Check (keep an eye on, an open mind re) your stress levels, as stress is very often the cause of physical pain and discomfort!

False accusation would be a stressful thing to deal with----like doctors and lawyers implying I was lying.

Onward Ho!

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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 11:21:22 AM »
Hi all,

Healthwise, I have been feeling very good lately.  My energy levels are up, I'm sleeping better, I feel calmer and more content, I just generally feel good.  But I find that every time I sit down to deal with false accusation related paperwork within half an hour I've got a headache, I feel sick, my neck and shoulders hurt and I get that odd shaky feeling, you know how you sometimes feel if you haven't eaten for ages?

I'm just trying to work in fairly short bursts and do the usual fresh air, good food, plenty of water stuff.  I'm pretty certain it's a reaction to what's happened rather than it being some bizarre coincidence.  Has anyone else got any other ideas?

Sigh, well yeah, it is probably psychological stress/anxiety. I think psychological stress is powerful --yet because we don't SEE it sometimes we dismiss it and  swear I think all of society is dismissive of emotional health in adults. Dogs shake too, when they are cold but also I guess it's nerves. Yeah, personally I have had physical symptoms of anxiety and stress that include: constant tooth grinding at night, tight jaw muscles as a form of stress and tension, headaches, waking up with stomach pain even rashes on my face probably from stress hormones cortisol or whatever it is. I have had a few panic attacks but none recently thank goodness. I think I notice myself being "messier" in times of stress and strain. I am more orderly when things are flowing well.

It's not a coincidence it is stress. Sigh, I've been stressed out my whole life!!!!

How long does this false accusation stuff go on for? Hopefully there will be an END to it at some point.

Good that you are feeling healthier though that is a good sign!!!!
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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2013, 07:57:01 PM »
Hi Tupp,
I'm nearly phobic about paperwork in two areas:
--family related (still have boxes of family residue stuffed under a bed that I should long have sorted/purged)
--financial (ADD + anxiety over never ever ever quite grasping all the numbers/concepts)

One day recently I dragged out a box (family) and went through it. Got a lot done. AND, was flat out weary, achy, dragged out, and physically low...for nearly a month!

I can really really relate.

One blessing for me is one friend, a MSW, who is unshockable and utterly accepting about every weird variant of emotional stuff. (She's been through her share.) She and I for a while worked out a "trade" of simply being with the other, even just reading at the other's home, while each tackled those scary scary scary piles of paper.

If I could do it through cyberspace, I'd offer that cozy support to you. It was an amazing help...and I'm hoping to talk her into it again.

love and understanding (but in the meantime, we need to, I think, approach these things when alone with a LOAD of nurturing compassionate comforts for ourselves, and punctuate the time with a lot of pre-planned, sweet rewarding moments. I read/think/hear that really helps, to deal with the most triggering chores.)

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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2013, 11:47:24 PM »
Oh...I think I have a somewhat similar example:   for a while a collection agency was calling me about an unpaid emergency room visit bill....LOL...they didn't do much except for charge me to breathe in there. And I didn't have insurance..

But now I do not want to answer the phone, it is bad...but every time I hear my phone ring I just kind of dread it.

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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 10:19:16 AM »
I don't blame you, Boat.
Do you have Caller ID or a voicemail?

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2013, 01:50:22 AM »
Oh it was a long time ago, I only picked up my phone once or twice to the collection agencies and then I "GOT IT"....that they were just going to harass me for as long as they could. The good thing about the phone is I don't have to talk.

It went on my credit report twice- so the damage is done to my credit but at the time I was so depressed and wasn't making any money that I didn't give a rat's arse.

It's just an example of how one can grow to dread something.

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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2013, 07:45:12 AM »
http://www.experian.com/credit-education/improving-credit-scores.html

If it has been more than 7 years and you haven't paid late since, your credit score is self-repairing. But there are a lot of ways to make it improve while you wait for time to work, too. Like inserting explanations (I was ill, out of work--those can go on the record of your report), etc.

When I did the Dave Ramsey FPU course, I wound up cutting up my credit cards. I have the shards of colorful plastic in a little crystal vase that my mother cherished. I like the irony.

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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 11:30:12 PM »
http://www.experian.com/credit-education/improving-credit-scores.html

If it has been more than 7 years and you haven't paid late since, your credit score is self-repairing. But there are a lot of ways to make it improve while you wait for time to work, too. Like inserting explanations (I was ill, out of work--those can go on the record of your report), etc.

When I did the Dave Ramsey FPU course, I wound up cutting up my credit cards. I have the shards of colorful plastic in a little crystal vase that my mother cherished. I like the irony.

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Shards of plastics in a crystal vase, this does sound poetic. So the comment can be added by the reporting agency to the report?

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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2013, 11:45:19 PM »
That's right, as I understand it.
Google "repairing your credit report" and you'll find info.
I believe you can write an explanatory letter and send it to all three major credit bureaus, and they have to add your explanation.

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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2013, 08:44:07 AM »
Hi Penny...

I got an idea reading some of the replies. I don't know if would work, but it can't hurt to try it. How about labeling those boxes of paper "the past"? And when you sit down to work through them, take a couple minutes to talk to yourself...

say: now I'm going to look at the evidence of the past - like an archeologist - and at precisely _________ (time) I will get up and take a 10 minute break, before working on it again for another hour, or until it's done.

Maybe that will help you get through it. I'm still working with hubs - and purging so many of his "collectibles" which are just emotional "stuff" linking him to his past "lives"... sigh... I really think there is this sense about papers, things, that some people invest so much of their identity in - that to give it up or let it go... actually, physically, hurts. It's some variation on "magical thinking". He can - really - only work an hour or two a day at this before he exhausts his capacity to emotionally handle it. (No, he's not overly verbal about the process... I have to watch his eyes and body language; sometimes his attention span.)

BTW: just to update my situation... my mom is ill again; repeated bouts of kidney stones and now she may be facing dialysis too. She has repeatedly said "it would be really nice if you could come up and help me go through my stuff". (note: she doesn't say - get rid of any of it; unless of course I take it with me... there's no, I'd really like you to come and spend some time with me...). Bro has had another round of dealing with clogged arteries and is comtemplating surgery this time... with no alteration of lifestyle. I am not going anywhere near that snakepit of a loony-bin. My D (A) is so far, not causing any real problems, is finishing her current round of education -- and spending time with the boys, as it's available. Boys seem to be doing well - but there's still the issue of tutoring that is contentious, because it would require effort on A's part... sigh. H & fiance M, and another couple will be here next weekend for some deserved and needed fishing & r/r...
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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2013, 11:03:45 AM »
hi twoapenny,

Maybe I am different, maybe not, but I learned more about me throughout this stressful adventure called Life.

After the accident, 4½ years ago, when the end of the month would come, my mood would change, and I gathered after a while that it was because the Insurance Co. was coming to cut more of my funding. Whatever happened, I went back to being the abnormal me.

When a Dr. said I ought to do pool therapy, I said I couldn't. It took 3 months to prove it on land. Until they dropped that idea, I was as tense as could be, as though I were lying, and my therapist noticed these changes,

Tense as the court date drew closer: thought I was calm but developed aches and pains: blamed it on accident.

I tell myself that I am  a stressed, anxiety-ridden person and don't even know it, as the results are usually physical.

When I need my arms massaged, She will say relax and I think I have relaxed and she works them over, but then drops my arm. it stays in the air. \it should fall to the bed! That is like my trying to control and not follow orders????? or just always tense.

When I lost the use of my arms, I thought my shoulder rotator cuffs were shot and it was an old folks home for me. but nope a separate condition (PMR) from the accident.

I'm learning to relax about having a "helper" who does most of my work, while I sit at the computer, or lying down reading. I have my therapist, too, and so am well cared for.

I am annoyed that the steroids put weight on my face, waist and feet, but today I finished 5 weeks of treatment but am less annoyed to know that it will drop off soon. anyway, I am old(er) and if I look like Alfred E. Neuman (Mad Magazine) then so be it! (Nevertheless I bought a small package of Ferraro Rocher to celebrate---then will lose it all at once!

I doubt anyone could come to just visit and find me as interesting as I used to be, but in the long run, I think it will return if I don't stress out over every little thing. My life is as it is, 2 'employees', my Will in place and, as I have been doing for a few years, downsizing odds and ends that I no longer use---to the laundry room for another, if useful, or straight to the garbage. I cut my File Folders by half realizing not all paper, documents require saving, and what good are my report card now?

Check (keep an eye on, an open mind re) your stress levels, as stress is very often the cause of physical pain and discomfort!

False accusation would be a stressful thing to deal with----like doctors and lawyers implying I was lying.

Onward Ho!

XX
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Hey Izzie,

I am sorry that you've had similar to deal with.  There's enough going on without having these sorts of reactions to cope with as well.  I think it is stress related.  I think I got very angry that my mum can still disrupt my life so much, even after seven years of no contact, all the counselling, the really hard work of letting go, moving on, etc etc - there's still stuff in there that I'm not consciously aware of and it can still pop up when I have contact with something she has been involved in.  It was a hard couple of days but I'm looking after myself well and what needs to be done can be done in small chunks as and when it suits me so I will just keep plodding through (might have to change my username to PlodderPenny or something).

I hope you are doing okay at the minute xx

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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2013, 11:08:06 AM »
Hi all,

Healthwise, I have been feeling very good lately.  My energy levels are up, I'm sleeping better, I feel calmer and more content, I just generally feel good.  But I find that every time I sit down to deal with false accusation related paperwork within half an hour I've got a headache, I feel sick, my neck and shoulders hurt and I get that odd shaky feeling, you know how you sometimes feel if you haven't eaten for ages?

I'm just trying to work in fairly short bursts and do the usual fresh air, good food, plenty of water stuff.  I'm pretty certain it's a reaction to what's happened rather than it being some bizarre coincidence.  Has anyone else got any other ideas?

Sigh, well yeah, it is probably psychological stress/anxiety. I think psychological stress is powerful --yet because we don't SEE it sometimes we dismiss it and  swear I think all of society is dismissive of emotional health in adults. Dogs shake too, when they are cold but also I guess it's nerves. Yeah, personally I have had physical symptoms of anxiety and stress that include: constant tooth grinding at night, tight jaw muscles as a form of stress and tension, headaches, waking up with stomach pain even rashes on my face probably from stress hormones cortisol or whatever it is. I have had a few panic attacks but none recently thank goodness. I think I notice myself being "messier" in times of stress and strain. I am more orderly when things are flowing well.

It's not a coincidence it is stress. Sigh, I've been stressed out my whole life!!!!

How long does this false accusation stuff go on for? Hopefully there will be an END to it at some point.

Good that you are feeling healthier though that is a good sign!!!!


Oh Green, the thing about being messy when stressed is so true for me, too, my brain just can't work in an orderly way when things are difficult and the rest of my life reflects that!  I also find I can't settle to mundane stuff when I'm feeling stressed, so tend to abandon laundry and dishes and then of course it adds to the stress because it all starts to pile up.

The false accusations ended a long time ago (at least as far as I'm aware) but it's left a very messy paper trail that's almost finished now.  If I could get my head down and get on with it (as if it were a full time job) I could probably clear it in a month, but of course life isn't like that.  It isn't critical, it's just something I feel I need to do now, she took control of my son's life for a long time by making all these claims against me and it's kind of like me asserting that I am his mum, not her, and I want his records to be accurate.  It's not essential but it's important for me to finish it so that I can close the box, if that makes sense?  I'm sorry to hear that you get similar too, I'll keep my fingers crossed for stress free living for you :)

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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2013, 11:14:19 AM »
Hi Tupp,
I'm nearly phobic about paperwork in two areas:
--family related (still have boxes of family residue stuffed under a bed that I should long have sorted/purged)
--financial (ADD + anxiety over never ever ever quite grasping all the numbers/concepts)

One day recently I dragged out a box (family) and went through it. Got a lot done. AND, was flat out weary, achy, dragged out, and physically low...for nearly a month!

I can really really relate.

One blessing for me is one friend, a MSW, who is unshockable and utterly accepting about every weird variant of emotional stuff. (She's been through her share.) She and I for a while worked out a "trade" of simply being with the other, even just reading at the other's home, while each tackled those scary scary scary piles of paper.

If I could do it through cyberspace, I'd offer that cozy support to you. It was an amazing help...and I'm hoping to talk her into it again.

love and understanding (but in the meantime, we need to, I think, approach these things when alone with a LOAD of nurturing compassionate comforts for ourselves, and punctuate the time with a lot of pre-planned, sweet rewarding moments. I read/think/hear that really helps, to deal with the most triggering chores.)

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Hi Hops,

Well thank you for the cyberspace offer!  I have got a friend who would probably get stuck in and sort a load out for me but I don't know, something about me still feels so ashamed that I don't want anyone else to see it.  It's like going public on how crazy she is.  I don't mean out of a sense of loyalty to her but just because I feel so embarrassed that my own mum could behave in that way and do so much damage to a three year old boy (as he was then).

By coincidence I did happen to have an acupuncture appointment the next day and I opened up a little in the hope it might help with the treatment.  I don't usually talk about it to people I don't know well because they don't usually get it but this nice lady nodded her head and said "yeah, my mum's like that too!".  It's always such a relief when you speak to someone who understands without you needing to explain it all.  So the acupuncture did help to relax me, I cried buckets afterwards but felt better for it.  Thank you.

Thank you for all the other responses, I will reply to everyone, just still feeling a bit overwhelmed so I'm doing things in little chunks!  Thank you though, everybody xx

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Re: Physical reactions
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2013, 05:27:40 PM »
Hi Tupp:

I was glad to read you talked about your situation with the accupunc doc.  That kind of professional is usually a very healing, caring spirit, and they can offer a good deal of empathy, and maybe some sound advice and fellowship.

It sounds like you found just that.

Good for you, and

it's

 all

most

over.

I think we sometimes forget that when we're deeply mired in the discomfort of doing this kind of work.

This too shall pass (((Tupp.)))

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