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« Reply #165 on: August 02, 2019, 11:52:06 PM »
Went out to get caught up on food intake, got some coffee. Walked. Now home and looking at an email correspondence from the employment rep I'm assigned to. He didn't answer any of my questions about timeline. He was vague and circumventing. He said he wants to talk about other scenarios when I am officially enrolled. That sounds exhausting and confusing. I sent him two emails and cc another rep. There was only a reply to one email.

I'm not sure he understood my question. Can I delay officially picking a training plan for one quarter and still use retraining funds. He didn't hear that or get it.

I feel like I might be wasting my time. It's worth trying.

Be nice, I'm slightly worried about my frustration getting out of control at some point and just walking out on them telling them to shove it. I will need to prepare and study for these freaking meetings with them. I can't risk blurting out nonsense because I'm overwhelmed and frustrated. I also can't express being overwhelmed and frustrated to them. Luckily I have some time. They have no interest in meeting with me or talking to me much until I am enrolled. LOL

What if I get enrolled in their project and refuse to agree with them. They can't really make me sign anything. I can tell them I am uncomfortable at this point committing to their plan because it's not my plan for my life. I'm not a slave. They dangled the carrot.

I need to not swerve into the thing I want to avoid.

He didn't say NO. He said it might be possible even if he wasn't encouraging about it.

These people must feel like they are in a position of power. Maybe it would behoove me to request the lady as my case manager. I don't want to be a pain. I just don't want any complications.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2019, 01:17:52 AM by Garbanzo »

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« Reply #166 on: August 03, 2019, 12:43:19 AM »
I think I'm going to write on Penzu some of the time instead of clogging up voicelessness.

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« Reply #167 on: August 03, 2019, 01:37:46 AM »
You're not "clogging up" anything, G!

You're going through something and need to vent and it's GOOD.

Plus, if you disappear we won't be able to keep cheering you on while you get through this!

Be sure to eat good healthy food now. And take breaks. And sleep. And drink a lot of water. Take a couple hours, meditate...slow the racing down enough to still get things done in time but not drive yourself over the top.

You're okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. You really are okaaaaaaaaaaay.

And you're being productive as hell.

These posts are productive! The one where you basically reminded yourself of your worth in different ways, especially that you deserve this opportunity as much as any other person...was awesome.

Hang in there, G!

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« Reply #168 on: August 03, 2019, 03:26:11 AM »
There is a BA in Public Health and I'm really drawn to it for some reason.


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« Reply #169 on: August 03, 2019, 04:02:32 AM »
Went out to get caught up on food intake, got some coffee. Walked. Now home and looking at an email correspondence from the employment rep I'm assigned to. He didn't answer any of my questions about timeline. He was vague and circumventing. He said he wants to talk about other scenarios when I am officially enrolled. That sounds exhausting and confusing. I sent him two emails and cc another rep. There was only a reply to one email.

I'm not sure he understood my question. Can I delay officially picking a training plan for one quarter and still use retraining funds. He didn't hear that or get it.

I feel like I might be wasting my time. It's worth trying.

Be nice, I'm slightly worried about my frustration getting out of control at some point and just walking out on them telling them to shove it. I will need to prepare and study for these freaking meetings with them. I can't risk blurting out nonsense because I'm overwhelmed and frustrated. I also can't express being overwhelmed and frustrated to them. Luckily I have some time. They have no interest in meeting with me or talking to me much until I am enrolled. LOL

What if I get enrolled in their project and refuse to agree with them. They can't really make me sign anything. I can tell them I am uncomfortable at this point committing to their plan because it's not my plan for my life. I'm not a slave. They dangled the carrot.

I need to not swerve into the thing I want to avoid.

He didn't say NO. He said it might be possible even if he wasn't encouraging about it.

These people must feel like they are in a position of power. Maybe it would behoove me to request the lady as my case manager. I don't want to be a pain. I just don't want any complications.

G, I am endlessly frustrated by other people's ability to give a straight answer to a simple question.  What I find in the UK (so I don't know if it's the same over there) is that people are only trained to implement the system - they're not trained to know the system or understand it, or to be experts in the topic they're dealing with.  They're basically just pushing paper so if someone has a specific enquiry that isn't on their list they can't answer it.  And for some reason they don't like saying they can't answer it, so you get a load of whaffly guff back and start wondering if it's you that can't express themselves properly :) He quite possibly is also on a target to get a certain number of people signed up, regardless of whether it's the best thing for them to do.  It's incredibly frustrating.  You could try finding someone higher up and asking the questions again, making it clear you won't sign up until you can get an answer to those questions.  It's very annoying to have to keep dealing with things.

Are the meetings like interviews to see if you're suitable for the course?  Or for you to find out more about it?  I'm still catching up on the thread so you might have already explained; I'll read more today and might be able to find the answer myself lol xx

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« Reply #170 on: August 03, 2019, 04:20:50 AM »
whaffly guff   ahhahah   

yah I think you are probably right Two, people going through the motions 

There is another office that is closer to me so I could probably ask to work with a rep there an older person, I've been thinking about it.


I hope I'm not wasting my time looking into the nitty gritty details of requirements at multiple schools. If I'm forced to deal with a community college I will have to start all over again. Also is this worth doing. Possibly two years of drudgery for a few years of work before I'm too old to work. Over and over it feels like too little too late.
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« Reply #171 on: August 04, 2019, 09:14:53 AM »
It's rather unfair of them to expect you to commit to something before explaining all the details and fine print, to YOUR satisfaction, G. And I would definitely point that out.

I'm pretty sure it's the case, that they want your commitment come hell or high water, because a) they want the statistic and b) they probably have a lot of people that aren't serious about following through with a commitment.

So you show up, you're serious as all get out, but it's not unrealistic to ask for the details of just exactly what you're signing up for and just how much assistance on tuition you can expect.
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« Reply #172 on: August 04, 2019, 04:17:42 PM »
They said the tuition, books would be paid in full 100%. We have to bring them 3 schools with the same course supposedly I think the idea is they want to pick the least expensive out of them or something. Commute is reality though.

I found some State Legislation document details about it. No talk about funds caps. It also thankfully is more clear, I need to get my glasses and make some coffee here. It says It will NOT pay for the first two years of higher education (which I mostly have ~ 2 classes) IT WILL pay for subsequent education. My biggest problem is ME, TIME/deadlines.  I probably should print this stuff out somewhere and highlight it so I can just have it in a folder if I feel like peeling my eyeballs out while talking to someone. I can be extremely annoying when I am anxious, I know this.


The BIG issue now is me figuring out what I want to do, I'm also worried going into 300 and 400 level classes. Maybe I shouldn't be. I mean I have been out of school for 20 years though. In some cases if there are pre-reqs maybe I could get admitted and still do some pre-reqs. Oy.

In my 20's I would have wanted to do something creative, web design, graphic design or publications. In my early 30's I would have wanted to do something health care or health informatics related. NOW I have gone on such a LONG detour in life I am where?  HAHA is the question.

If I don't do this will I be kicking myself... The reason why people do school is so they will be further along in life by the time they are in their 40's. Like am I doing this so I will be further along in life when I should be retired. I know STOP with the crazy talk. It is really disappointing to feel so far behind in life. It is. Okay but what am I going to do now.

I'm going to keep looking closly at entrance requirements.
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« Reply #173 on: August 04, 2019, 04:28:22 PM »
When you're thinking about specific things to do, pay attention to how you feel inside, G.

Does web design feeeeeel light, and good, or does it feel heavy, etc?

Does health care feel lighter, heavier, etc?

It looks like you have a bit more clarity around the program.

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« Reply #174 on: August 04, 2019, 04:44:12 PM »
Right Lighter (smile emoji here).  Marie Kondo the heck out of it. Does it bring me Joy?  I will keep that in mind.
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« Reply #175 on: August 04, 2019, 06:42:48 PM »
I think I have an undiagnosed learning disability of sorts. My old GPA was at 3.3 so I muddle through okay and overall I'm usually maintaining what I need to stay above the radar. Still as far as being fair to myself I'm starting to look into some info about learning styles etc. & learning problems. Sometimes I really do struggle I'm not a super genius. I've never liked just passable grades in the past but I think sometimes being just good enough is ENOUGH.

Out of curiosity I looked up some information about getting tested for learning disabilities and it costs $300-$1000.00 +  hahaha which is interesting to say the least.

Somehow in all this time crunch I need to give myself some space. I'm really wondering if I can buy myself some time.

The time pressure I have put myself under is not realistic.

I've delayed unemployment which is probably dumb but what that also means is maybe I've inadvertently bought myself some more time. I just don't know right now.

I think the adviser I spoke with initially at my old school was excited and happy to help but there is so much I haven't told her. And I don't need to tell her my life story.

It's just A LOT A LOT A LOT I need to clarify for myself.

There is a program at the community colleges I'm wondering if I can "declare" one thing to them as it is a separate program, for one quarter only. And then Winter quarter declare something totally different to the TAA program. I have a feeling I can't but considering the REAL world does make things complicated...Admissions is not a given. There are competitive and capacity constraints.

Or if I must and if it ends up only being 1-2 classes should I self pay one quarter and can I qualify to collect unemployment while doing that (probably not) They are so specific about collecting unemployment while being in school that is what is great about the TAA program. Reasonable yes, maybe not realistic I don't know. Or would I just stop unemployment temporarily and then start the claim again in Winter quarter. I could do that. I could. But living expenses ughhhh. Like my friend with daycare issues has pointed out she is worried that when all is said and done going back to school even with free tuition is still going to put her deeper into the hole. .... Ideas ideas.

I mean it's really bending the heck out of definitions, maybe I can justify the 1-2 last classes as remedial education. Remedial education for the program I want to go into which is (?) Bwa hahaha Oy.

My friend says I'm overthinking this all but I really need to exhaust myself. I really do. I feel there is some point in it eventually.


**  I could self pay for one quarter it's a possibility.
... Maybe I think I have to get some kind of waiver to do this.

I don't want to spend two more years at a community college to learn how to be a secretary. I'm also not going to be an industrial welder. They might have lists of options but what REALLY pertains to me.

8/5th - It's past 4 AM. I got into bed was tired and then felt wide awake thinking about details. Now I am on college sites again looking and looking. Again I keep coming back to the fact that I just want to take some classes. I just need to pick something.
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« Reply #176 on: August 05, 2019, 12:31:41 PM »
G,
I really like the idea of a public health degree.
Given all you've been through, I think you'll have a mature perspective on it that would serve you really well with assignments, etc.

I think once you wade through the decisions, you're going to be so happy engaging your mind, learning again, and moving forward.

Keep in mind how many, many, many other adult students are rebooting their lives and how inspiring and motivating it is to do this. No matter what.

You are worth it.
You are a human mean worth education and training.
Your future will be calmer, easier and more meaningful.

You deserve it.

And you don't have to be perfect.
These decisions have consequences but ALL consequences you imagine are better than the consequence of not taking advantage of the opportunity.

You can do this.

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« Reply #177 on: August 05, 2019, 07:36:53 PM »
There are at least 4 sets of paperwork packets I have to submit for approval and reviews. The first I should submit this week or next week. The next two I should submit by the end of this month I believe. The 4th I should submit sometime in September I think and this is the only one where it needs the case manager to approve a Major and school. I think.

The first packet is going to cause the case manager to start bugging me though maybe I will submit that on Aug the 16th. coo

There are multiple schools and hundreds of Majors albeit I can probably rule a lot out. I am freaking out.

I'm tired, I don't have to explore or do due diligence. Panicking and feeling I still won't know in just a few weeks what the right thing to do is. I'm an adult I should be able to figure this out. I should just make a list of all the programs I have looked at and decide which one sounds the most interesting to me. Why not.

I'm almost so overwhelmed I don't want to do this anymore. Whats wrong with me.

OH HOW I WISH I WENT ON A VACATION somewhere.

I should make an advising appointment with my local Uni I'm afraid they are a bit elitist and they will look down on me for approaching school the way I am but they have to realize that being a displaced worker, making a career change quickly is a reality too. I can just go in with that attitude. Not be intimidated. Be real that this is a SUDDEN SHIFT. My parents haven't been meticulously plotting out my career since I was in diapers.
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« Reply #178 on: August 06, 2019, 02:23:37 AM »
Was looking at an English technical writing BA, then Communications. Now I'm looking at Journalism but it's in decline. It's all computers and chemistry is on the rise blah blah blah almost everything requires a strong science base.

Oh my god, I think I just found a horrendous grammatical error on the BA program website for an online Uni degree in Communication. Staring at the white wall above my boots wondering "what's a person to do". They shouldn't let first year students mess with the university website pages it's too confusing. I will probably end up having to take some accounting certificate course, oh well so be it if that's what happens.
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« Reply #179 on: August 06, 2019, 04:16:55 AM »
G, just logging on quickly but my two cents for what it's worth:

When I look back my regret is that I didn't do what I love.  At school, all I enjoyed and all I was any good at was drama.  I wanted to go to drama college.  Everyone laughed, said I was stupid, pipe dream and so on.  So I didn't go.  Then I found out there was a college in London for people on low incomes - all the classes ran in the evening and at weekends so that people could hold down full time jobs.  I went to secretarial college to learn how to be a PA so I could put myself through the drama classes - but when I tried to do the drama qualification at the college they told me I couldn't get in on one A Level to the 'proper' drama school so I didn't apply and just got a job instead (and later found out I could have got in on one A-Level, they waived formal entry requirements and went on potential and dedication instead).

Then I went to Uni and took English and Drama - again, only took the English because everyone said drama wasn't a proper subject so I took English as well.  Then I found I got better grades in English so I dumped drama all together.  I still regret it and I still wish I'd gone down the path of what I loved, rather than what seemed sensible or most useful.

I only say all of that (and keep in mind I don't know how your system works there so there may be certain hoops you have to jump through to do anything at all) but I would try to pick out a few courses that you think you'd love to do - regardless of work opportunities or previous experience - and then look at those more closely and see if one of them would work for you (or maybe more than one, so you have a back up plan).  But in your shoes right now I'd really try to go for something that will just be an enjoyable experience and give you back your zest for life :).

As far as being elitist goes, I don't know what it's like here but in the UK Universities are businesses like any other.  They need bums on seats and tuition fees paid and they love mature students - because they've chosen to go, they know it's a great opportunity and they work hard.  The kids that are there because Daddy threatened to cut their allowance if they didn't go or because they didn't fancy working in McDonalds and three more years at college puts that off for them or because everyone else in their family is a doctor/lawyer/midwife or whatever - they don't work so hard and they don't do as well.

So my humble advice to you would be to look into what you love, see what you can get that works for you from that and then get in there with your head held high and show them what you're made of.  Tasks like applications I find I can cope with better if I break the job down into stages (get paperwork together.  Find certificates to do with blah blah blah.  Photocopy form so I can practise on a spare.  Get pencils, pen, ruler.  Address the envelope.  Fill in easy bits of the form first - name, address, date of birth.  Start drafting other bits.  Draft again. Re-draft. Finalise.  Proof read.  You get the idea).  And I block out a chunk of time and break that into ten minute chunks and I cross off each ten minutes as I go (I don't know why this helps me but it does, ten minutes at anything doesn't seem like too long and I'm always amazed how much I can do in ten minutes and it gets me down my list faster - just makes me feel like it's easier for some reason).  It might help you.  You might have a better way to tackle it anyway.  But whatever is going on now, I think you've got this :) xx xx xx