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« Reply #75 on: June 16, 2019, 09:26:06 AM »
Hi Tupp:

I think we're better off if we figure out how to stop worrying about what's coming, and deal with what's in front of us.  Maybe you're at the point where that's all you need to do.... is all you can do now.  I think that might not have been true, for many years, but that it will save your sanity. 

About the new friend group.... YES.  It's liberating, and validating to be around people who understand your situation.  It's demoralizing to speak to people who don't get it, and has always been a waste of time.... regretful, IME if I forget. 

People who aren't able to give back..... well..... if they understand you,... maybe they're still around, but not in your front row.  Not in your second or third.  Maybe your fourth row.  We refile people, and that's not a bad thing.  It's a necessary thing.  You can't be everything to everyone, even though you've tried.  Planning to pull back.  Save energy for yourself, your care, for you as priority is wise, IMO. 

I love that you feel the difference in energy of this new friend group.  People showing you how they've walked your path.  Sharing resources, working together.  Not losing their sense of humor. That's community.  That's walking with people who know your path.  People who can shine a light up ahead. 

About your crush.... just be you.  Don't assume.  Be curious, and see how the thing goes, as you've planned.  You'll get time out of the house with adults, and there may be someone interesting in that group, besides the crush. 

You're an amazon, Tupp.  Have some fun, breath stretch.  It's time. 

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« Reply #76 on: June 16, 2019, 10:49:07 AM »
Hi Tupp:

I think we're better off if we figure out how to stop worrying about what's coming, and deal with what's in front of us.  Maybe you're at the point where that's all you need to do.... is all you can do now.  I think that might not have been true, for many years, but that it will save your sanity. 

Lighter, I think that's it, I've been trying to cover all the bases for a long time, it's like constantly running round the house trying to cover every door and window so no-one can get in.  I don't need to - I can focus on one particular thing for a day or two and get it out of the way, then move on to the next thing.

About the new friend group.... YES.  It's liberating, and validating to be around people who understand your situation.  It's demoralizing to speak to people who don't get it, and has always been a waste of time.... regretful, IME if I forget. 

People who aren't able to give back..... well..... if they understand you,... maybe they're still around, but not in your front row.  Not in your second or third.  Maybe your fourth row.  We refile people, and that's not a bad thing.  It's a necessary thing.  You can't be everything to everyone, even though you've tried.  Planning to pull back.  Save energy for yourself, your care, for you as priority is wise, IMO. 

Yes, they are a good group of people and I'm really enjoying seeing them a couple of times a week.  I've not fallen out with older friends, I just feel like they're more people I'll have coffee with from time to time.  I do need support, and fun!  And these parents do both.  I was quite struck with one at the weekend - she asked me how my week was, we chatted a bit, I asked her how her week had been and she told me a little bit about something that had happened that was very upsetting for her.  I was just struck by how different she is to people I've known in the past - although what had happened had been very difficult for her to deal with, she was still able to enquire about my week and she didn't monopolise the conversation, plus she'd dealt with it and was taking steps to try to prevent it happening again.  It's very different to friendships I've had before when someone has talked for an hour without pausing, hasn't shown any interest in what I've been doing and then continues to carry on in the same situation without trying to do anything about it.  I really admire her and enjoy her company.

I love that you feel the difference in energy of this new friend group.  People showing you how they've walked your path.  Sharing resources, working together.  Not losing their sense of humor. That's community.  That's walking with people who know your path.  People who can shine a light up ahead. 

About your crush.... just be you.  Don't assume.  Be curious, and see how the thing goes, as you've planned.  You'll get time out of the house with adults, and there may be someone interesting in that group, besides the crush. 

Yes, I've reined myself in!  I'm getting to know him through the appointments son and I have so we chat during them and he's just a really nice guy.  I've had to pull my brain back in because I do read too much into things so yes, chat, focus on sorting son and getting a life again and then see what happens.

You're an amazon, Tupp.  Have some fun, breath stretch.  It's time. 

Lighter

How is DD after having her teeth out? xx

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« Reply #77 on: June 16, 2019, 11:11:26 AM »
((((((((((Tupp))))))))))) I hear you.
I can imagine how frustrating it is to deal with the system. I need to stuff the extra advice or imaginary "scripts" on that, as you've battled your way through it admirably and, considering the obstacles, hugely successfully.

A small thing -- from working in a whole lot of health promotion and marketing related things and events over the years, my guess would be it's an invite the therapist is issuing to all clients, rather than a date. Hope you enjoy the event!

Sounds nice to be treated nicely and boy do you deserve it!

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« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2019, 03:36:04 PM »
Hi Tupp:

DD is doing great.  SO much better than I did when I had mine out, for sure.  She actually went roller skating today, and wants to go work out.  There's a tad bit of bruising on the left side, but the swelling is going down.

I had a wonderful session with new T today.  I really liked her.  I'll share more about that on a new thread. 

Glad you had a nice conversation with the other mom.  Taking turns, give and take.... that's the way it's supposed to be.

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« Reply #79 on: June 18, 2019, 11:41:53 AM »
((((((((((Tupp))))))))))) I hear you.
I can imagine how frustrating it is to deal with the system. I need to stuff the extra advice or imaginary "scripts" on that, as you've battled your way through it admirably and, considering the obstacles, hugely successfully.

A small thing -- from working in a whole lot of health promotion and marketing related things and events over the years, my guess would be it's an invite the therapist is issuing to all clients, rather than a date. Hope you enjoy the event!

Sounds nice to be treated nicely and boy do you deserve it!

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Hops

I am always happy to hear your advice and ideas, Hops, so don't stop it coming - it gives me something else to think about and look at.  I do feel fatigued with the whole system thing; it's like a hamster wheel that you just can't get off of.  The thing I find bizarre is that the whole reason there's so much state interference with children here is because it's supposed to enhance their outcomes - but it actually makes them worse.  I suspect it will actually be easier once he turns 18 because then it's just a question of 'care' and I should be able to get them to pay carers of my choosing for that, so it will probably all be a lot smoother and easier.  The constant scrutiny and need to meet outcomes melts away so I can get on with my own sweet thing and just do an online review of the situation each year.  Hopefully this time next year things will be a bit easier :)

And yes, I expect you are right about everyone being invited :)  I am seeing him tomorrow as son has an appointment so I will gaze from afar :)  Lol, can't go to the event as haven't got anyone to have son but it sounds nice so maybe if there's another one I'll be able to get along to that (and probably meet Mr Lovely's wife and kids :) lol) xx

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« Reply #80 on: June 18, 2019, 11:43:36 AM »
Hi Tupp:

DD is doing great.  SO much better than I did when I had mine out, for sure.  She actually went roller skating today, and wants to go work out.  There's a tad bit of bruising on the left side, but the swelling is going down.

I had a wonderful session with new T today.  I really liked her.  I'll share more about that on a new thread. 

Glad you had a nice conversation with the other mom.  Taking turns, give and take.... that's the way it's supposed to be.

:: nodding::.

Lighter

That's great that she's recovering so quickly, Lighter!  Really good news, and about the new T as well, I look forward to reading about that.  Yes, nice conversations, I like them, it's nice to come away from people energised rather than feeling exhausted.  Turn taking is good :) xx

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« Reply #81 on: June 18, 2019, 11:49:52 AM »
Well, a general update :)  I've pared down what I try to do each day and it's amazing how much of the day is just taken up with the mundane, day to day stuff.  Very little time for anything else.  I'm focusing on cleaning the house at the mo and will hit the paperwork again once that is done (always feels easier to tackle paperwork when the house is clean, for some reason).

Son and I have been talking about next steps and at the minute I/we are looking at him doing another year at college and then switching to a home and community based programme again.  He's interested in starting a blog so I've suggested to him that we sort through his room, sell or rehome anything he doesn't use anymore (he's very keen to earn cash so he's up for selling a bit - although not much!) and then using his toys and books for ideas for him to write about things for his blog, maybe making little Lego videos to demonstrate things as well.  He's keen to do that so I think that will be our summer project.  I've found a great place locally that does tech based courses for kids who aren't in school so I'm going to contact them and see if there's a way of getting son involved with that.  We've talked about ideas for his bedroom to free up a bit of space and streamline things a bit and I might see if I can talk him into getting a new bed - his current one is really for a teenage boy, not the great big bloke he now is and I'm constantly worried that it might collapse at some point.  He's up for doing things which is good and he has a party tonight, which he's looking forward to.

I'm going to concentrate on getting him sorted out, trying to look after myself the best I can and just putting my feet up more.  I'm blooming tired lol xx

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« Reply #82 on: June 19, 2019, 10:49:30 AM »
I've seen the social worker this afternoon.  Lots going on in my head at the minute and I am trying to 'do a Lighter' and just observe :)  But I wanted to talk through it here and I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions you all have :)

Appointment has been booked since last week.  Have spent the last few days feeling awful - agitated, tired, stressed.  It's quite subtle and underlying rather than raging through me.  Have taken my supplements, CBD stuff, done a bit of yoga, read my book, tried to rest and have feet up which has probably all helped but didn't take it away completely.  Was thinking it was to do with pre menstrual stuff as well but most of it has gone since leaving the social worker's office so I think it is more a PTSD type thing (not self diagnosing with that but more trying to make the point that it seems to be a physical reaction to an old trauma that's triggered by a new event, even when the event itself isn't likely to be traumatic).

Not really sure how much else I can do about that.  I stopped seeing the previous counsellor because I didn't feel she understood son's disability or the demands of providing such constant care and the cost was crippling me as well (if I felt she'd really got it I'd have tried to find a way through but it didn't feel like it was worth spending the money).  I have got my name on a waiting list for local counselling through a charity which is cheaper but obviously there is a long waiting list and with son out of college through July and August it will be September before I can see anyone so still a way to go.  Although saying that hopefully this is the last time I'll have to see anyone from SS until November so perhaps it won't be an issue again until then anyway.  Waffle waffle.

I find it hard to be friendly and welcoming to them and I'm trying not to force it.  I've been polite but I feel that the social worker hasn't been completely open with me about the situation.  It has transpired the bulk of the weekly payment is to pay for a carer.  I had already explained, more than once, that care really needs to be provided at home but this is not what they do; the government has decided that children must be cared for away from their families, even if that makes them ill.  So we can't access what they've agreed funding for.  They have agreed to pay for some activities for him over the summer, which is a help, but it isn't a fortune and they will only pay the activity cost itself - there's no help with fuel, parking, or equipment hire, for example, which I will struggle to pay for so that will restrict the activities we do, as will the fact he gets tired easily so activities tend to need to be quieter (which they won't be so much over the summer as everyone's out and everywhere gets busy).  So I'm back in my usual situation of (a) feeling like no-one gets it, no-one has listened and no-one has been clear with me about what they're doing and (b) feeling very frustrated that there's a pot of money sitting there that would really help son with at home activities and at home carers but we can't access it.

I don't think there's anything practically I can do about this now; my focus is on the adult services assessment and switch over which is the next thing and I think it best to focus on that rather than worrying about this.  I'm not meaning to sound ungrateful either; I am grateful for the help but frustrated that there's more money available, but not for anything that would actually help us.  So I am again feeling that I just can't work within this system without it making me sick, which I want to avoid.

And that's probably it!  It felt like a lot more than that when I started writing lol, but the stress is going just because it's done now and I'm not thinking about it.

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« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2019, 03:45:39 AM »
I think the main problem is I can't cope with the huge surges of adrenalin that are created when I have to deal with any of this which is then followed by a huge slump that can last for days afterwards.  I'm utterly destroyed today - exhausted, sick, my head is pounding, my back hurts, my chest pains are frequent, it's hard to think or do anything other than keep re-running the entire events of yesterday over and over.  I've got things I can do today to help me get back to normal but when you take this and the days preceeding this of feeling so ill I've lost about four days overall, from a workload that is enough to keep four people busy.  All through having to interact with people who I just can't fathom out.  Anyway - nothing more to say.  I think I just need to focus on the legal side and the change to adult services when (I think) I can just be given the pot of cash to pay for carers and organise it all myself anyway.  That is probably the best way to go about doing things.

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« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2019, 08:23:07 AM »
About the only way that works for me to deal with adrenalin dump, is to quickly breathe my way to calm, or go do some physical but mindless labor task. Could just be doing dishes, ya know?

I think the worst habit that carries through from the past trauma is the over-active brain energy. Somehow we feel responsible for thinking through to a brilliant solution or outsmarting the difficulties. And flat out obsessed with beating the old head on the same brick wall till we bust it down. Doesn't work that way. Only makes things worse.

But it is possible to learn to "stop thinking" long enough for other brain skills to jump in and take the lead. Could be a meditative thing; could be body-mind work that gets you "in the zone"; some people run to make that shift. Not sure exactly how I figured it out, but I learned to tell myself to stop the hamster-wheel in my head and go to sleep, because the problem would assuredly be there tomorrow. And sleep was the thing I needed the MOST to get back at the next time.
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« Reply #85 on: June 21, 2019, 11:26:12 AM »
About the only way that works for me to deal with adrenalin dump, is to quickly breathe my way to calm, or go do some physical but mindless labor task. Could just be doing dishes, ya know?

I think the worst habit that carries through from the past trauma is the over-active brain energy. Somehow we feel responsible for thinking through to a brilliant solution or outsmarting the difficulties. And flat out obsessed with beating the old head on the same brick wall till we bust it down. Doesn't work that way. Only makes things worse.

But it is possible to learn to "stop thinking" long enough for other brain skills to jump in and take the lead. Could be a meditative thing; could be body-mind work that gets you "in the zone"; some people run to make that shift. Not sure exactly how I figured it out, but I learned to tell myself to stop the hamster-wheel in my head and go to sleep, because the problem would assuredly be there tomorrow. And sleep was the thing I needed the MOST to get back at the next time.

I think that's the key, Skep, it's finding the thing that makes it stop before it really takes hold, I just haven't found it yet!  The beach calms me enormously but only while I'm there; I got back in the car this morning after sitting there for an hour and within ten minutes could feel it all rising again.  Within an hour of leaving I felt as bad as I had when I got there.

What I did do this afternoon, though, was a sort of life audit.  I gathered together all my lists and notes and reminders of what to do and have divided everything up into stressful but necessary and deadline related, potentially stressful but can take longer to do (and it's stuff that hopefully will mean less hassle in the future so worth putting the time in in the hope that this time next year it won't be causing stress), time consuming and large projects that aren't stressful but will be quite a lot of work, ideas for money making from home or involving son so that I can try to find a way to make a living that isn't reliant on other people looking after him and then just the various things to do with the house, improving my social life, health and so on.  With it all written up in different areas like that I can see that if I put in a couple of hours a day just on the normal day to day necessary stuff and then focus my time on getting rid of the stressful and unpleasant paperwork as quickly as possible over the next few weeks, then I'll probably feel better just because my stress levels will drop overall.  Then I can start making dents into the other big projects and hopefully that will feel easier because the nasty stuff is out of the way, and maybe by the end of the summer I'll have my workload down to something that is manageable and won't generally be stressful day to day, as it is now.

I also don't really have any other meetings or assessments to do now; the next health related assessments will all be private ones and they're always easy because they just get on with it and write the report up properly so it isn't usually stressful.  Other than that it is mostly just reviews and much of that can be done on paper with minimal contact face to face so hopefully my overall stress levels will go down and the number of stressful situations I have to deal with will reduce as well so that might be enough to make it easier to manage when it does happen.  Phew!  I will be very glad when all of this is behind us.  It really has been a horrible year so far xx

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« Reply #86 on: June 21, 2019, 12:18:09 PM »
Sorry the struggle with social services continues, Tupp.  It's real, and present.  There's a certain amount of stress we can't avoid, but I'm learning how to DO things to take the feeling of crisis and imminent doom away.

I'll post a bit here by I can't finish a new thread post.

First I downloaded an app called kardia anti stress breath pacer.  It's free.  It's a blue ball that gets bigger and smaller.  As written, I breath in as it gets bigger and out as it shrinks, concentrating on 5he outer edge works best for me.  I also fill my mind with intention before beginning. 

If I m really stressed I push on a wall or doorjamb with all my might while breathing the same way.  I can picture the ball or think the words here and now at each breath.....in is here....now is out.

I try to do these regularly to train my system back to normal.

Another technique is to walk backwards around a chair or basket....whatever you have handy.  Breathing is important, bc it signals there's no crisis to our brain.

I'm thinking of you,  but unable to post much.  There was a fire at the power station on the island, and it's  creating problems I don't want to list.  Can you say hotter than three hells? 

I'm grateful the power's staying on today as it's been out 6 and 9 hours the past two days.

I'm really using my new stress tools!

Lighter

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« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2019, 04:24:03 PM »
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High hopes for this! (Vicariously for you, but I know you know better than to get hopes way up. Sure would be nice if he fell in love with woodworking or some kind of minor assembly work that could actually pay him one day.)

When you said PTSD it just hit me that this makes SO much sense. Was similar to my reaction when my new T said to me I wasn't just dealing with grief, but trauma.

The other association that popped up was the other night on 60 Minutes I was fascinated by a new treatment available (off label) from a few physicians. It's literally a local anesthetic injected into a nerve bundle in the neck that controls a lot of stress. It brought me to tears to see near-suicidal vets get on the table and 15 minutes later get up with smiles on their faces their families hadn't seen since before they deployed. And amazingly, even though the local wears right off, evidently the effects last unchanged for a long time.

Lay description:
'One treatment option increasingly recommended by physicians is known as stellate ganglion block (SGB). SGB is a local anesthetic injected into the stellate ganglion, a group of nerve cells and nerves in the neck that helps regulate the body's “fight or flight” mechanism.'

Study (military focused but some US physicians already realize that there are all kinds of trauma that produce PTSD, not just battle):
https://www.rti.org/impact/study-stellate-ganglion-block-treatment-ptsd-symptoms

Testimonials (soldiers, but you are one Tupp):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5uSLru6HQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftx44fCRXH0

NHS availability:
https://www.pat.nhs.uk/downloads/patient-information-leaflets/pain/460%20Stellate%20Ganglion%20Block.pdf

https://www.google.com/search?q=stellate+ganglion+block+(SGB)+NHS+U.K.&rlz=1C1AVFC_enUS735US735&oq=stellate+ganglion+block+(SGB)+NHS+U.K.&aqs=chrome..69i57.5766j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[This one DOES list PTSD!]
https://www.painspa.co.uk/procedures/stellate-ganglion-block/

It could be fantastic if you could find a U.K. physician who'd let you try it. Because the more I think about what you've been writing during the interactions with social services (much less being an abuse survivor from both stepfather's rape and mother's direct threats to you and your child) -- the more I think PTSD makes sense.

Just a thought and likely a zillion obstacles. But just in case...

love and comfort and healing rest...
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« Reply #88 on: June 22, 2019, 04:07:03 AM »
Sorry the struggle with social services continues, Tupp.  It's real, and present.  There's a certain amount of stress we can't avoid, but I'm learning how to DO things to take the feeling of crisis and imminent doom away.

I'll post a bit here by I can't finish a new thread post.

First I downloaded an app called kardia anti stress breath pacer.  It's free.  It's a blue ball that gets bigger and smaller.  As written, I breath in as it gets bigger and out as it shrinks, concentrating on 5he outer edge works best for me.  I also fill my mind with intention before beginning. 

If I m really stressed I push on a wall or doorjamb with all my might while breathing the same way.  I can picture the ball or think the words here and now at each breath.....in is here....now is out.

I try to do these regularly to train my system back to normal.

Another technique is to walk backwards around a chair or basket....whatever you have handy.  Breathing is important, bc it signals there's no crisis to our brain.

I'm thinking of you,  but unable to post much.  There was a fire at the power station on the island, and it's  creating problems I don't want to list.  Can you say hotter than three hells? 

I'm grateful the power's staying on today as it's been out 6 and 9 hours the past two days.

I'm really using my new stress tools!

Lighter

I hope the power gets sorted, Lighter, it seems there is always another problem going on at the island to throw spanners in the works each time!  I think hotter than three hells sounds perfectly acceptable.  Lol.  I hope it gets sorted out soon.

I think one problem is that I feel enormously resentful of the time I have to spend managing stress caused by other people.  That's the bit where I get really stuck.  I was talking about this with the acupuncture guy (this is one of the reasons I've been so starry eyed about him).  He commented that everyone is truly doing their best - but some people's best is that basically they got dressed and turned up for work and that's about as good as it gets.  I think that's my issue with it.  Other people's best is so poor it causes me problems.  I'm in a hugely stressful situation again now simply because this social worker didn't have an open and candid conversation with me six months ago about what happens next.  If she had, I'd have had six months to get everything sorted out and in place.  Because she didn't, there's really no point in my sorting it out now, because in just over six months he transfers to a different team because he turns 18 and I'll just have to do it all over again.

I think another problem for me is probably two fold - one is the view that seems to be held by many people we meet that 'normal' is what all disabled people should be aiming for.  So other people's opinions of what is good for my son is for him to be able to do more stuff that 'normal' people do - like going out more.  The problem for me is that going out more is tiring, because of his disability, and that then causes other problems day to day.  In order to go out more, he really needs all the support he isn't currently getting, like the speech therapy and occupational therapy.  They help with day to day tasks and challenges, which means he's less tired overall, which would then mean more energy for socialising.  So there's this constant and endless compartmentalising of his needs with no-one looking at the source and working from that point.  Essentially everyone's just chucking stuff into the pot in the hope that something will work and it's hopelessly ineffective.  I know what will work, everything's documented, we won at court - and it still isn't being done.  So social worker thinks she's being helpful by organising care for him, but she doesn't understand the amount of work involved for me in passing his care on to someone else.  There are dozens of things that have to be done a certain way to avoid stressing him out, umpteen little habits and routines that people need to know about to be able to look after him properly, and in particular they need to be able to manage the fatigue well, which for some reason seems to be impossible for many people we encounter, so the whole process needs to be done slowly and over a period of time.  And there just isn't time to do it now, and probably won't be from this point until next year.  I'm frustrated at not being heard - I explain until I'm blue in the face, I write it all down, I bullet point things, I give examples, I send in professional reports with relevant bits highlighted and do anything else I can think of - and it still falls on deaf ears.  Aargh!!

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« Reply #89 on: June 22, 2019, 04:11:22 AM »
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a great place locally that does tech based courses for kids who aren't in school

High hopes for this! (Vicariously for you, but I know you know better than to get hopes way up. Sure would be nice if he fell in love with woodworking or some kind of minor assembly work that could actually pay him one day.)

When you said PTSD it just hit me that this makes SO much sense. Was similar to my reaction when my new T said to me I wasn't just dealing with grief, but trauma.

The other association that popped up was the other night on 60 Minutes I was fascinated by a new treatment available (off label) from a few physicians. It's literally a local anesthetic injected into a nerve bundle in the neck that controls a lot of stress. It brought me to tears to see near-suicidal vets get on the table and 15 minutes later get up with smiles on their faces their families hadn't seen since before they deployed. And amazingly, even though the local wears right off, evidently the effects last unchanged for a long time.

Lay description:
'One treatment option increasingly recommended by physicians is known as stellate ganglion block (SGB). SGB is a local anesthetic injected into the stellate ganglion, a group of nerve cells and nerves in the neck that helps regulate the body's “fight or flight” mechanism.'

Study (military focused but some US physicians already realize that there are all kinds of trauma that produce PTSD, not just battle):
https://www.rti.org/impact/study-stellate-ganglion-block-treatment-ptsd-symptoms

Testimonials (soldiers, but you are one Tupp):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5uSLru6HQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftx44fCRXH0

NHS availability:
https://www.pat.nhs.uk/downloads/patient-information-leaflets/pain/460%20Stellate%20Ganglion%20Block.pdf

https://www.google.com/search?q=stellate+ganglion+block+(SGB)+NHS+U.K.&rlz=1C1AVFC_enUS735US735&oq=stellate+ganglion+block+(SGB)+NHS+U.K.&aqs=chrome..69i57.5766j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[This one DOES list PTSD!]
https://www.painspa.co.uk/procedures/stellate-ganglion-block/

It could be fantastic if you could find a U.K. physician who'd let you try it. Because the more I think about what you've been writing during the interactions with social services (much less being an abuse survivor from both stepfather's rape and mother's direct threats to you and your child) -- the more I think PTSD makes sense.

Just a thought and likely a zillion obstacles. But just in case...

love and comfort and healing rest...
Hops

Ah thanks Hops, I will bookmark and hang on to it all but unfortunately I know from previous experience that PTSD here comes under mental health so the treatment is CBT and anti-depressants, neither of which have helped me in the past. 

It would be great to find something son could make some money from; for him I think it would likely be some sort of tech based or practical type activity that he can do in his own time, from home.  Those are the sort of options I want to look into for him.  Other parents have been very helpful with suggestions for places locally so I'm going to look into it all over the summer holidays and start putting together a plan.  I like that kind of stuff!  I enjoy the research and looking at ways things can be put together and he'll be able to give me his input as well which will really help :) xx