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Hopalong

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Re: Friendship Moments: good or bad
« Reply #210 on: February 06, 2026, 05:02:08 PM »
I led the Covenant Group last night on Friendship; used this as an opening reading:

Alone by Maya Angelou
[Excerpt]

“Lying, thinking
Last night
How to find my soul a home
Where water is not thirsty
And bread loaf is not stone
I came up with one thing
And I don’t believe I’m wrong
That nobody,
But nobody
Can make it out here alone.”

Thank you, VESMBers, for helping me understand this.

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Hops
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Re: Friendship Moments: good or bad
« Reply #211 on: February 16, 2026, 12:01:51 PM »
Happy friendship stuff going on today.

Recently my dog-sitter friend, C, agreed to adopt Pup should I predecease him -- idea went up when I noticed him streak into her lap when she stopped to visit recently, asked her if she'd consider it and got an immediate Yes. (I'll add a bequest for her to my will.) Prolly already told y'all this. She lives in a lovely setting where he'd get great walks, and he stayed with her in October. She's both calm and responsible and though he'd grieve, he'd have a great retirement with her. As she dog-sits, that'd include new dog friends!

Last week I took C to meet A (New English friend, distinct from OEF next door). A has written a series of highly-researched historical novels about a misunderstood king and C is a huuuge fan of her work. Asked A if she'd like that and she goes: Do I want to meet a FAN? Are you kidding? Come for tea! So we did and had a great time. I have another historical-novelist friend, J, who's met A once and both said they'd love to meet again.

Arranged to meet them both today downtown at a Himalayan restaurant that is YUM. Invited another friend too, ML, the former-pres of "Village" project, close friend of A, who introduced me to A when A and her hubs recently moved here. ML was heading off for a month in Spain and worrying about A feeling isolated. I set up a lunch with writers and went to A's for Boxing Day.

Today is kind of last minute for ML and C, but I'm feeling a happy alphabet of friendship right now. Grateful. J and A can talk shop which is VERY fun to listen to, and C and perhaps ML chime in as readers. I haven't read A's books yet but am hooking her up with local writing community stuff. Networking.

Later today I'm going to have a "tune-up" session online with former T, who invited me to if I never needed it. It'll be helpful to review the Poet drama, at least briefly, to figure out the relationship between a Co-D outbreak and depxiety these days.
All good, all about living.

It's still whoopsie-cold, but the sun's been out. Snow's melting off and Pup comes in with muddy paws to share them with the bedspread. Best part of spring will be meeting friends with Pup along at outdoor cafes downtown. Soooooon!

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Re: Friendship Moments: good or bad
« Reply #212 on: February 16, 2026, 04:49:19 PM »

That sounds really warm and cozy going to a Himalayan food place with friend(s).

It's relaxing to be around people where you can just chill out and be. Where there is no feeling of constant sub-text undercurrents one has to read and track. No eggshells.

When I did pet sit a very athletic and needy dog at first it was strange for me because I don't have kids. And she was just so much togetherness. It was way more togetherness than I am used to. I did like the frequent walks though at any time of day or night and any weather. I think we walked in snow at night and I was probably looking for some celestial event. I'm not a pet person... unstable rentals that I don't have control over... working hours etc... I am not predictably home enough. I have allergies so pet are not exactly clean enough for me. But still sometimes I think how I miss the dog I pet sit for. She was fun to play with the hyper tug of war stuff was sort of a workout for me. It's definitely two way interaction. I know all the walks were good for both of us. Anyhow I guess through pet sitting I learned why people are so attached to their dogs. She was not well trained one day she ripped out of my hands and went barking at a smaller dog for some unknown reason. Actually I think she was sort of predatory. The man of the small dog gave me a disgusted look and I don't blame him. But as a pet sitter for a short period of time it's not like it was for me to socialize the dog for it's entire life. The owners were old and never walked the dog so she was pent up and didn't interact well with cats or small dogs. I still miss her. I read that dogs have much fewer taste buds than humans do.

Anyhow. Glad you got your friend-tasks momentum on.

I feel right now it's not easy for me to do it as I am in no way settled. Anyhow I can still contemplate future friending tasks.




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Re: Friendship Moments: good or bad
« Reply #213 on: February 17, 2026, 01:12:50 PM »
This is my third attempt to post on this thread.....
what a splendid update, Hops!  Fellowship and shared interests on the calendar. You're deserving, and so very due.

I can feel the warmth of connection, through your happy post.


There's comfort in sorting care,  for beloved pets/people/institutions, just in case we need them, IME.
::looking forward to next update::

Meh, you might consider volunteering at animal shelters, or rescues.  Lots of walking opportunities.

Lighter



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Re: Friendship Moments: good or bad
« Reply #214 on: February 17, 2026, 01:48:07 PM »
Thanks, ((((Lighter)))). It felt good to take joy in other friends, the sunshine, and Pup etc. I was ready to punt him across the room at 430AM when he decided I should wake up....but he's off for the afternoon and I'm chilling out happily. I agree about offering care to people/animals/institutions we value, but not only because we might need them one day. It just expands me on the inside to do stuff like that, regardless.

Meh, I loved your closely-observed story about your dog friend. So real. Sometimes, fostering an elderly dog who REALLY wants to sleep all day anyway is a nice alternative. The other great thing about fostering a pooch is that the relationship is not permanent unless you ask that it be. Meanwhile, you're giving respite, love and comfort to the best soul sisters or brothers on earth. WHAT a difference it makes.

Hope y'all are wallowing in some rays by now.

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Re: Friendship Moments: good or bad
« Reply #215 on: March 02, 2026, 12:13:52 PM »
So. No big drama but did a Zoom with Poet yesterday, which was strange and frustrating. She slept through our appointment time and was still groggy when we reset for an hour later. No problem. She was just out of it. It would have been better to reschedule but she didn't want to. I was hopeful (stupidly) because she had written that she "would address" the conflict we'd had. So when I gently asked if she wanted to talk about it, she said "I do not", vehemently. So we talked about her poetry, etc. She avoided eye contact and turned away a lot.
I think the old connection is broken, likely for good. At one point she started telling me "you feel...you think...." and nearly working herself up again. I interrupted her saying "I'm not feeling that! I'm not thinking that!" and she finally gave up. But appeared to resent me stopping her momentum. I sensed it was a buildup to another fury-burst so I'm glad I spoke up.

Not grieving about it now. I understand I can't fix it and am focusing on present friendships here and the oncoming joys of spring. She's going to another state in May to stay in a "lovely inn" near another friend who lives in the Smokies. I'm glad for her. She might be here in July with her daughter and I might see her then.

She kept wanting to talk about the poetry group and justifying all her reasons for it being an "unpleasant experience" for her. She didn't criticize the female leader but made digs about a male poet there that the whole group seems to admire a lot. I'm indifferent about him, he's rarely there. I just don't care about all that because I'm having an autonomous experience with the group that's positive. It's strange but I'm beginning to think she's just jealous of another poet who's popular.

I even suggested to her that there's nothing wrong with resigning from a writing group. She won't quite, but says she won't be attending the next meeting. Jesus. I wish she'd shit or get off the pot.

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Re: Friendship Moments: good or bad
« Reply #216 on: Today at 01:09:04 PM »
I feel soooo much better.
I think when any relationship turns toxic, depending on level of attachment, there can first be a load of denial that can be very persistent. Even in romantic relationships, there can be the "beating a dead horse" thing. (I think my relationship with M, that whole "dream machine" disassembling, was where some of my increased strength was formed. He was so egregiously self-absorbed that I finally recognized that waking up to smell the coffee is a fine practice, as reality is my friend.) Untangling all that has been hard work for ages. Grief is part of it, I think.

What I'm happy about now is that over time, I really have gotten it through my thick skull that sure, I can try to convince/inspire/engage/reveal insights to a person I'm close to IF THEY WANT IT, and help them move toward healing or positive change. For me now, the primary revelation is that it's ME who needs to change, and I am. I'm seeing a different perspective that's not about being a victim. Wonderful feeling.

As to attachment, there's some sock monkey stuff, both in my romantic and friendship relationships history. Rooted in childhood, probably fear of abandonment from being so small, extremely sad and scared (brother, Nmom, school bullying/ostracisation). But some different seed was growing all along in my mind, and now I CAN face, however slowly, unexpected revelations of aggressive or self-serving character, or just inability to commit to healthy reciprocity. And I can make choices to ease out of a toxic attachment.

To my amazement, I have actually let go of Poet, and basically said No to continuing dialogue with her. I didn't blame her, but explained how/why the volatility and anger part just can't work for me. Or that I can't face/absorb them without feeling toxic myself. She responded with "oh no, I didn't mean this or that..." and a variety of reasons why her life is so difficult. All are real and valid (she has gout), and I told her so. But she also reversed herself, made up new excuses, and tried blaming me, which I didn't accept. I wasn't angry about it, just realized it was not true.

After the email stuff was over, I had this moment where I felt a switch had flipped in my brain, and a sizzling sputtering circuit has just stopped. I felt such relief. I feel light and easy and curious and delighted about spring, crocuses up this morning, and new friends both writers and non-writers. I feel a sense of possibility and peace.

I will surely be back writing here in pain over something (or someone) or other at some point, but it feels so good when it's GONE. Like most of us, I've come through a winter that tested my soul in ways. And more poems are coming. Some might appear morbid to non-poets, but I feel connected to the imaginative thinking behind the images, which is unique to every poet. We literally write about anything and everything, as no subject is off limits. And there's a part of me that loves to tackle taboos. Usually with humor but sometimes straight on the chin.(My latest includes an image of my taxidermied self being "shellacked" into a rocking chair that would be delivered to each of my friends for a visit. I found it chuckle worthy but one friend I sent it to said Whoooaa! LOL. I should only send "shocking" ones to poets.)

Pup is doing his best imitation of a heating pad clamped to my side, a friend is offering me new irises and morning glory seeds, and I am okay. Hope you all are getting tipsy on spring and feeling the joy of life returning.

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