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« on: May 05, 2005, 01:01:47 PM »
I'm writing this in the hope that I can direct a dear friend of mine to a site more suited to her problems.....can you help?

This girl was sexual abused as a young child by one of her mothers many boyfriends. Her mother was on the game (hooker) and when doing so, would leave her then two young daughters alone for days on end in what passed for a home (laughingly). The girls were aged 5 and 7 at the time when the younger one was continually abused! Whilst on their own, the now ex boyfriend would climb in through an open small window and carry out the abuse. She has now idea how many years before she was 4/5 this started, but it stopped when she was 6/7, she's now 39.

Their mother would regularly dissappear for days at a time, leaving the girls alone to fend for themselves. The mother was an alcoholic and would attack the girls....on one occassion with a hammer, frequently!

On returning from nursery one day, the girls were given some money, told that they were loved and then sent to the shops to buy sweets. On their return, there was no sign of mum and the house was shut and locked. They waited.....and waited.....and waited......then it was dark. Neighbours finally called social services and they were taken into care.

They both had scabies and went through a de-lousing treatment before being placed in a childrens home. Neither child had any idea of what the hell was going on! But this was one of many stays that they'd had in homes as a result of being abandoned by the mother. Days turned to weeks.....this time it was different. The authorities took a care order out and they were permanently taken into care!

Once again, their mother surfaced and tried to recover her kids, but it was too late! So she embarked on a campaign of visiting the children and telling them that they'd soon be home with her. She'd even tell them how she'd got new bedrooms for them and how many dolls she'd bought for them...etc. Weeks turned to months and there was no going home. The visits became less frequent. She married again.....a total of 4 times in the end. 8 more kids followed with this or that guy....and still she was pissing up and on the game whilst her two little girls were in care!!

Finally they moved from the home and into foster parents...out of the frying pan and into the fire! No one new that the younger girl had been continually and fully sexually abused......even she didn't tell anyone! The new foster home turned out to be a dumping ground for the authorities who couldn't place difficult children. The foster parents had turned it into a business and had 8 children living with them. The money was rolling for them, but the younger of the two girls started to experience the wrath of the foster mother. Maybe as a result of exhibiting effects of the sexual abuse or whatever, but the foster parents started to physically abuse her! This continued for 7 years before she ran away at 14.

Oh did I forget to mention, she also started to selfharm at this age! She'd take a blade to her arms and legs slicing just enough, but not too much! When they'd find her sleeping rough somewhere, they'd lock her up....pin down! Our lovely authorities!!

She used to sleep rough on building sites....all alone! How she managed to escape far more serious assaults is a  amazing! A pattern developed of the authorities catching up with her, back in to care, then escaping again. This continued till she was 16....then she fell pregnant!

By 18 the had two children by the same guy. He was doing drugs, she wasn't. He'd tried to set fire to her in bed, beaten her variously! When carrying a third child, he dropped kicked her in her stomach. She lost the baby.....a deep mental scare for her to bare! He left having caused huge damage to her. A previous boyfriend, a childhood sweet heart, moved in and she was pregnant again. But this guy couldn't cope with the fact that she'd had two children by another guy and was beating her up! She awoke in hospital one morning with a broken jaw and face! He left!

Another miscarriage and one final baby with another guy who dumps her and she's on her own again. This time she decides it's best to keep it this way......well one can understand why! She brings the kids, 4 of them, up on her own! Never does any drugs, doesn't drink too much and buys everything through her own hard work! Never fails the children, not once! A model mother.....a very, very, very good woman!

She starts a job looking after the elderly. Loves it! Soon she's looking after several doing home help and their shopping. She gets close to some, too close! Over time, they die.....don't we all! Two that she's very close to die either in pain, or on their own and are found by her the following day! She is deeply, deeply traumatised by this!

He children are not longer children....they're growing up and leaving home. Her entire purpose.....her being as a person is beginning to collapse! She's always kept dolls houses in he adult years. Expensive ones complete with dolls. The master, butler, cook, wife and children.....the perfect house......the home she never had but always dreamt of! She no longer plays with the dolls, reality is biting.....and hard!

She cries over the deaths of her two elderly friends....her mother and father! They never had a clue what was going on for as you see, this little girl makes far deeper  and hidden connections with people, far more than any realise! She's is more devastated by their deaths than their real families! Slowly, she's collapsing from within.......

She meets a guy over the net........now this ones different! You might expect that a girl with her background would be free and easy with her favours.......not so!  With less than 6 or 7 sexual partners in her entire life, she's not exactly winning slapper of the year contests! She's a good woman, a descent woman.

She's had an affair with a guy for 12 years. Yes it's not good, but that's the way she wanted it because of what happened with the other men in her early life! Yes he lives with someone else and yes she knew this from the outset, but he's big and strong and if she ever needed a man to sort something or one out, he'd do it for her! But that's long over now.....over by 12months or more! He loved her, still does, but she doesn't have those feelings for him!

The new boyfriend......well he's posh.....or rather he talks as if he is. Older, she likes that, but not too old.....7 years difference. He's in business and flashes the cash! He takes her out for dinner....they stay in posh hotels.....she's smitten with him!

He's not long out of a marriage and a serious but painfull relationship. He too had a difficult childhood, a bullying and violent father, but nothing like her background!! He's a good listen.....and talker! He left one woman for another and promptly lost everything in the process! At the end of which, he even lost the mistress! He'd served her purpose and she no longer needed him. He was bitterly used, but that's life! It took him time to get over it all, but he's on the other side now, he's ready to date again!

He wants a relationship with a girl, but nothing heavy! No living with or 24/7. He wants to take a girl out, have fun, have sex....but nothing serious.....he can't cope with serious for fear of it all going wrong again! Nice and light....nice and simple.....dating, friendship, nothing else! He tells her this at the kick off. He listens to her problems......he's shocked to the core! As the weeks pass, his admiration for her grows! They spend time together....they talk a lot.....they get on well......and she feels safe with him!

Two months in to their 'light' relationship he makes a mistake...idiot! One night he tells her he loves her....big mistake! Two weeks later he's been talking to another girl over the net and goes around to hers one night. A few hours later and he's left having all but slept with her! He never sees her again.....but the damage is done!! Our damaged little girl.....our dreadfully hurt woman.....finds out! All hell breaks loose!!!! Just as she was beginning to relax.....just when what had happened to her as a child and those recent deaths was being replaced by the presence of newby.......the lid to pandoras box has been knocked open! The shit had hit the fan! Breakdown.......big time!!!!!

All of the what had happened over those many years now rises to the surface! Newby is back peddling like now tomorrow!!! Yes he's a 'player' but everything was supposed to be ok with her as she knew things weren't heavy between them.....just light! But then the f..king wan.er did say he loved her and she'd never met a guy like this before!! He understood her and she'd told him things she'd never said to another before! He'd replaced all of her pain......and the recent deaths of people close to her.....he was special.....he was such a f***ing idiot for not understanding what he was getting into! He'd really walked into things this time!!

She's beside herself and totally undone.....top to toe! He's trying to get away from her now.....but she needs someone, him, more than ever as the full emotion of those early years and beyond are exploding all over the place! Depression.....and then some!! A month or two later and she's diagnosed as 'Severly clinically depressed'! She can't work and has withdrawn to her bedroom.....her last castle! Frightened to go out....speak to even her children.....she either sits playing on her play station....listening to music.....or growling at people! Things get worse, much worse!

Unable to work, she's on the sick. 6 months elapse and her sick pay dries up! He's tried to end the relationship over and over......but she needs him more than ever! Everything that she's worked for is in jepeody! She's never had to rely on anyone before, but now she's desperate. He stands by her and comes through with the money as she's asked him to. He tries to contain the damage! On the one hand he's tip toeing away, spending less and less time with her but paying the bills!

He organises a counselor for her.....and covers the costs.....but 12 months later......and nothing has changed! Panic attacks, furore and fear of going out still abound! She's frightening herself even!

She spends most of her time ranting and raving at him! Everything he does is remorslessly questioned. He tells her that they're not in a relationship anymore.....but are good friends. He talks to her daily and texts back and forth continually. But at times she becomes totally overwhelming and has started to self-harm again! The ranting and raving becomes intense....so intense....he's withering under it all!!! He starts to shout back....the whole thing is a mess!!

She's threatening suicide by the day!! On anti depression tablets and diazzapan for over a year, nothing seems to work! The NHS wheels turn slowly. Nothing happens quickly....she's virtually on her own except for him! He family have all but backed away......he is backing further away under the strain of it all!

She goes to the police over her childhood sex abuse......they listen and pull the guy in for questioning. He's as guilty as sin.....and they know it.....but there's little they can do!! He's now old.....but as cunning as hell! He runs rings around the law......and knows he's going to get away with it!

She gets her childhood file from social services......what a terrible mess this poor girl has suffered from! It's a nightmare by anyones standing!!! She's close.....very close to the edge! Things have become soo bad......she's in danger....real danger of losing her life! He doesn't know what to do and is trying one thing after another to help! She sends pictures to him by phone of what she'd done to herself with a blade! He sends the cops in.....she kicks them out claiming he made it up......the picture and words attached don't lie.....she's slashed the hell out of the tops of her legs!! He's at his wits end!

She's a good person.......and he's a twat!! I am that twat......and one hell of a one! I knocked the lid off the box.....and I've got to get it back on! No one else wants to know....no one! I know that I can't continue like this for ever......I had not intention of being here in the first place! But she is a truly outstanding woman who's suffered sooooo much over the years....and survived.....until she met me.....wa*ker that I am! It's either into an institution she goes from here......or she starts to pull round after 18 months of it!

One way she could be helped is in finding similar groups such as this that could help her over the net. She has difficulty sleeping at nights and often has no one to talk to. Does anyone know of good sites like this but more geared to sexual abuse and depression than this one? I need to focus her attention towards something like this, hopefully UK based!

Thanks for reading it all.

Otus

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2005, 01:33:29 PM »
That was a very traumatic read - can't imagine how she feels.

Hope this helps.

http://www.self-injury-abuse-trauma-directory.info/Completed%20Files/Abuse-Links.htm

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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2005, 02:33:29 PM »
Welcome Otus,

You're in way over your head here (as you know). You can't help her, and a sexual abuse support site isn't going to help her. She probably does need hospitalization (sorry). For yourself, please check out www.bpdcentral.com. You can get help for yourself there.

take care,
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2005, 03:13:39 PM »
This story was written about me, i am looking for help, not to be sectioned, and maybe otus hasnt told the full facts about what he done to me, it truly breaks my heart, to read what is written although mainly true, and i am desperate, there are no saints here, i was abused sexually verbally, and physically from 3 months old up until the not so distant past, i feel like i was put on this earth to be trampled on, i am a good person at heart, and have never set out to harm anyone deliberately, i have brought my kids up well, i have a nice home i work, up until this last year, and i cant cope for many reasons that otus has pointed out, and for many more, i am desperately lonely and isolated, and yes i do feel like doing away with it all, cos no matter how many tablets etc i take the pain wont go away, i just need to be listened to and understood, i dont live anymore i exsist, and i HATE myself for how i have become.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2005, 03:36:26 PM »
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That was a very traumatic read - can't imagine how she feels.

Hope this helps.

http://www.self-injury-abuse-trauma-directory.info/Completed%20Files/Abuse-Links.htm


Thankyou for this link i shall take a look
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2005, 03:55:01 PM »
Dear Denise,

Otus is overwhelmed. You need help. If you're cutting yourself and calling Otus to tell him, that is something that needs to be addressed. I'm glad you're going to check out that group on self-injury, I hope they will help you there.

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2005, 03:59:58 PM »
Denise

This is a nice board and you are welcome - try some of the other ones also.  The problem with any childhood abuse is the lasting feelings of self-hatred heaped on top of the physical, emotional and sexual torture you have suffered.

I'd go and see the GP also if the tablets you are on aren't helping.  Therapy worked for me but it was a 9 year slog but worth it.

Please take care of yourself because YOU MATTER.

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2005, 04:16:04 PM »
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Dear Denise,

Otus is overwhelmed. You need help. If you're cutting yourself and calling Otus to tell him, that is something that needs to be addressed. I'm glad you're going to check out that group on self-injury, I hope they will help you there.

bunny

Right now i am devastasted about what he wrote, he has made himself look like a saint, and missed a lot of facts out about his role in this, and believe me it isnt all good, self harm is the only way to release my tension however sick and bad people think it may be

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2005, 04:22:47 PM »
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Denise

This is a nice board and you are welcome - try some of the other ones also.  The problem with any childhood abuse is the lasting feelings of self-hatred heaped on top of the physical, emotional and sexual torture you have suffered.

I'd go and see the GP also if the tablets you are on aren't helping.  Therapy worked for me but it was a 9 year slog but worth it.

Please take care of yourself because YOU MATTER.

I am on tablets third lot of antidepressants, valium an sleepers, i see a phychiatrist, whom on my last visit 2 weeks ago when i told him how i felt said, "we will up the dose, now am on the highest dose of these particular 1s and come back in july"
I dont know who or what to turn to anymore, i feel like am in a nightmare, ive suffered for years, but always got through it, so why now, why does it feel like theres nothing left anymore

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2005, 05:04:44 PM »
Dear Denise,

Please hold on. You've been through hell, but please don't give up. You've survived for a reason, because you were meant to LIVE not just exist. Many of us here know how that feels like - existence/ subsistence sucks. You are strong for a reaon, and your time will come.

Strength to you,

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2005, 05:37:26 PM »
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Right now i am devastasted about what he wrote, he has made himself look like a saint, and missed a lot of facts out about his role in this, and believe me it isnt all good, self harm is the only way to release my tension however sick and bad people think it may be


Denise,

There is a boundary issue because Otus wrote about you and you are also here reading it and posting. So there is a privacy issue, and an expectation that we will take sides. I don't think Otus sounded like a saint at all. It was somewhat of an intrusion to tell your story, unless you authorized him to do so. But I believe he's overwhelmed and frightened. I understand that you are cutting because that's how you manage feelings. Possibly he's telling your story to manage his feelings. Phoning him to tell him you're cutting is a problem and so I hope you will find others who will take that phone call, who are more qualified. Keep posting here and I hope you check out the self-injury site.

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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2005, 04:28:24 PM »
Dear Denise:

You have truly endured horrors. :shock: I'm so sorry for all of the pain you have experienced and are still experiencing.

Cutting is not bad.....but it is very unhealthy.   Please do go to those sites that might contain more information to help you get healthier in this area.  You know it's not helping you to do it.

You are wondering why everything seems so overwhelming now?  My guess is that you felt attached to and great trust for Otus.  Have you ever felt that attached to or trusted any one else as much as that before?

If not, then this may be one of the biggest losses you have ever suffered and so it is understandable that you will have a great bit of grieving to do.

I'm sorry Denise, for that loss. :(  :(  :(

But cutting to relieve the tension.....rather than grieving.....feeling the feelings....getting them out....releasing them....will not make you any healthier.   Cutting makes you unhealthier.

Have you ever spoken to a therapist about your traumas and feelings?
It is something that might really help you...at this point.

You don't have to relive all of the trauma you've experienced over and over.  You can decide to focus on feeling well....finding joy....living in the now.   And work on healing your pain in therapy.

It's not an easy thing to do but it is possible if you decide to do the work.

I hope things will get much better for you.  You will have to take the first step for that to happen.

Otus:  You're a good friend to Denise (I assume).  It must be shocking to open an email and see pictures of your friend, all cut up and bloody.  It is heart breaking to think about.   Traumatic for you too, I bet.  What do you think you need to do to protect yourself from this unhealthy behaviour of Denise's?  Would it be possible for you to make it clear that if another pic like this arrives...you will not feel comfortable opening any further emails?

Part of the behaviour seems to be involving punishing you.  That's my take.  We all agree.....you're no saint, Otus.  But....no one is obliged to encourage unhealthy behaviour of a friend, or be traumatized as punishment for past deeds.  What do you think?

(((((Denise)))))     (((((Otus)))))

My prayers are with you both.

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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2005, 05:32:14 PM »
Replied by PM to Denise because she needs privacy now.

Meanwhile, my comment to Otus is that you did not know that what you were doing would do so much harm.  Now you do know, I think the best thing you can do for Denise is to let her set the pace for the 'friendship' you have.  

You have damaged the trust that you had between you, but clearly you are both still close and perhaps you can still be a support.  I think Denise may well need that, as long as you can understand that she has to make the choices, and she has to decide what she needs.  A major factor in trauma of any kind is loss of control; you need to give that control back to Denise as a gift, and you need to be trustworthy now, 100%.  If you cannot do that, then tell her so, and tell her what you can commit to.

I would advise you to say to her that if she wants to talk to you, you are there for her, but that the choice is hers.  She decides when and where.  You decide for how long (because even the best listener in the world cannot listen forever at a time.  Better a couple of hours a week than burning yourself out.)  You are there to support and to listen.  

Meanwhile, you have a right to set boundaries for yourself.  If you cannot cope with certain kinds of messages, then say so in advance, so that you both understand the 'rules'.  

I would advise not touching Denise unless she asks you to, and a friendly hug at the end of a visit (if she wants it) at absolute most.  There is no question of anything other than friendship for Denise while she is in so much pain.  I am sure you realise that.  A very important part of your role as her friend is to show her how she can be safe with you.

This may seem a frightening, impossible situation, but there are ways out of the nightmare.  Others have found the way, and with any luck at all we can help Denise to find her way too; she is no longer alone in this.

Last comment: God preserve us from Saints of any kind.  What we need is people who care enough to do the wrong thing, for the right reasons.

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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2005, 07:49:50 PM »
I thank you all for reading what I posted yesterday. Denise was aware of what I was doing, but not about the depth that I went into.

Denise is an exceptional woman to have survived and prospered as she has. When I first met her, I couldn't believe the pain and hurt a parent could inflict upon a child! As with the movie 'Angelas Ashes', this girls story goes way beyond its traumatic images! I've often said that someone should right a book about her life as it would leave few with a dry eye!

I'm a big boy....but a foolish one. I did something, which in turn, set off a cascade of effects which is still erupting today! I kicked the lid off the box, not her! Yes I had no idea about what was going to happen over what I did, but knock the lid off of box, I surely did! What was inside wasn't of my making, but neither was it hers!

Denise was OK before meeting me. She was like most girls of her age, just trundling along, living day to day, with a smile upon her face. But now she's not....and it is of my doing, my fault! Yes I struggle with the results of what I unleashed, but I can just about cope with the situation. She is a very good person.....a joy to know most days. There's really not a bad bone in her body and she cares for the elderly soooo well. She has a heart of gold.....but a leather whip for a tongue these days  :lol: She's a far more worthy person than I.

The people who inflicted abuse after abuse upon the soul of a poor and defenseless child....are still walking around today without so much as a thought for what they did! Free to do so again as undoubtedly they probably have! Beyond the law and free of mind to hurt so deeply again! But she's in prison....a prison of her innocent mind for crimes she couldn't prevent! Every day and every night...the lids still off the box.

I deserve no pity for what I did, for I am a big boy and responsible for my actions. She's still a little girl who desperately needs and deserves any and every positive input you all could make.

This is very genuine situation and I appeal to your endevours. Please focus upon Denise, I'll take care of myself.

Thank you

David

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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2005, 04:41:00 AM »
denise,
i dont know if you are still reading i just want to say how brave i think youve been. i wish there was something i could offer that was helpful but, just know i admire you. i hope you stay here and talk although i really hope you find other help too.
anna