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gratitude28

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Secret Bad Habit
« on: August 29, 2006, 10:47:47 PM »
OK, I'm going to go first on this one and admit a bad habit that I want to break myself of... I was doing much better with all compulsive behavior for a while, but feel I am slipping again.
You are all strong... still, I am guessing that you might also have a behavior or two you'd like to change... so here goes to see who wants to 'fess up and think about changing (you don't have to change... just think about it...).

I take NyQuil caps a couple times a week to make me sleepy... not a good thing, because that's not really different than drinking in a sense...

I'm also back to eating poorly... I won't eat one day and then more than make up for it the next. I have never been able to go by hunger cues... My whole life has been a diet or ignoring the problem and I am so tired of it.

Anyone else have anything to share?
Love you all,
beth
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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2006, 10:57:54 PM »
Thanks for sharing this, Beth. I've slipped into careless eating, gained weight,feel tired all the time, and let my paperwork pile up. I'm on ADs, but still. I am just...not postive. Feeling a wave of identity crisis..

Hope plenty of folks have wisdom on all this...

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2006, 12:52:17 AM »




Man-O, man-O, man-O, where do I start!

I'm becoming more hermit like.  Getting cozy with my asetic side.

I only leave the house when I must.  When I must is too often!

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2006, 02:50:38 AM »
LOL.  I'm a hermit in a rat trap with clothes in such a disarray that I can't find a whole outfit to put on inthe morning.  I am getting better about eating and taking medicine and supplements and now I'm putting exercise on my mandatory list.  (I've got a battle with the dark version of perfectionism.)  I realize that until I get going on the exercise I won't get my act together well enough to get back out in the work force.  (But, being a perfectionist, I want my house and home in order first.)

Take that nyquil - sleep is essential to taking care of your self.  I couldn't sleep at all last night and here it is almost 2am tonight.  Not a good situation.

Gaining Strength with a few slips here and there.

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2006, 07:44:03 AM »
I spent a couple of weeks eating as much ice cream as I could get my hands on because it was the only thing that really 'put out the fire' with the duodenal ulcers I've been contending with.

I blew up like a zeppelin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm now deflating rapidly, but it took a tape measure, the inability to get into any of my slacks, and the sobering realization that I had only last winter faced the fact that I'd gone up ONE size in the last TWENTY years, and here I was up another size in THREE WEEKS, to get me to stop my personal inflation program.

On the plus side, it did definitely help the ulcers... so now I have ice cream for lunch. Only. With portion control. Rigid. Edit in: and a sobering life lesson about the metabolic changes that come with middle age... and an 'inside understanding' of everyone who has to contend with that kind of metabolism all their lives!!!
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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2006, 09:24:22 AM »
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my personal inflation program.

LOL - I LOVE this AND it applies to me as well.  I've been doing so much inner work, that the outer has slipped, but I REFUSE to submit to all of the "shoulds" and "supposed tos" about body image as portrayed in our society. 

THE GODDESSES WERE NOT SKINNY!

TV, lack of exercise, latching on to my angry side at times (it's a familiar place).

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2006, 10:01:53 AM »
latching onto my angry side at times.

Did you know there are pretty good non-addictive sleeping pills?  Ask your doctor if interested..  I did take all my b/f's pain meds, that he didn't take when he'd had his wisdom teeth out.  But I really was having pain in my back from being hunched over the computer for 80+ hours that one week.  I'm glad I don't have any more though...they're addictive.

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2006, 10:02:52 AM »
Hi Beth,

  Well... eating regularly is the biggest thing, I guess. I don't get the hunger cues either, and then when I do, I'll just have a couple pieces of toast. I do manage to stick with the multi-vitamins and drinking juices, but whole fruits and vegetables are not my friends :?

   I've seen that I tend to trade one obsession for another, always with something to fill in the vacuum when one is given up.
My computer time is the thing I need to monitor closely now, since it can become such a distraction from routine... it becomes the routine! And if it weren't for my family here, I could surely become hermitified. Teartracks... I'm with you. There are so many errands still and so much chauferring to do yet, but it's all only by necessity! Homebody here.

   How about ritualistic type behavior? Does anyone battle that? I'm not sure that ice cream for lunch (for medicinal purposes :))qualifies as a ritual, but I have ice cream nearly ever night before bed. Routine has a certain comfort-factor for me and when it's broken, I can feel kinda lost and shaky. We don't have to break through all of our personality quirks, do we??  :shock:

Love,
Hope

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2006, 10:09:09 AM »
hi hope,

I actually think I remember reading (M. Scott Peck?) that rituals and routine are the best thing we can do to be loving to oneself and others.  If we develop good discipline and habits, that is.  So no, not all ritual is bad - a lot of it just is, I feel.  Love is a ritual, as it is the actions we commit to that are kind.

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2006, 10:44:01 AM »
Thanks, Pb!
Routine definitely brings me a settled sense of comfort and I'd hate to think I have to suddenly examine every element of that. Whew... some things just should be left be, I think!  After being turned upside down and inside out by N-marriage, I am just thrilled to see some of my old discipline and habits returning, even if they don't make sense to anyone else.
Hugs back to you, Pb. I never thought of love as a ritual. Maybe because it always seemed to turn into a rut. But that was only because it was so one-sided. I hope you'll have a smiley day.

Love,
Hope

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2006, 11:08:49 AM »
NYQUIL contains cough suppressant and acetamenophin ( paracetamol ) as well as the anti-histamine which is probably making you sleep Beth.

Just take anti-histamine, lots of people do for sleep. During all my sleepless time I took a mild anti-anxiety called hydroxyzine ( brand name Atarax, also used for itching ) which helped maintain a pattern with no side-effects and non-addictive.

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My secret bad habit isn't very secret, since I've been banging on about it here for months ( ! ) but it's a tendency to obsessive love. I am getting better but when I fall in love I can't do enough for the person and don't recognise when they are not reciprocating or taking advantage.

I got so used to jumping through hoops with my father then my marriage a 'normal' relationship is easy for me now to shower someone with ideas and love...but it's still not healthy when I can't walk away from someone's indifference or lack of affection or issues.

Or recognise that I don't set the whole tone of a relationship!

As I type that this just came into my inbox: Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.   ~Oscar Wilde

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Update on my new 'friend':

well, I had asked the usual questions on getting to know him and suspected he had either intimacy or commitment issues ( like many guys who seem a real catch but have never married etc by mid-thirties )

As soon as I started to respond to him romantically he seemed to back off, and now he's not calling me or writing- well he is but just enough to keep things there, it's not deepening, in fact the opposite. He's stopped being so affectionate and though he is gazing at me and I sense an attraction he is not acting on it.

So I don't know if it's just the usual limit-setting ( Judith Sils calls it 'the switch' where one partner steps up interest and the other backs off ) of an early relationship,or he just wants a friendship, and he's not saying except he said 'it takes me a really long time'.

Well I'm not like that- I'm very spontaneous even impulsive.

He forgot my birthday, which I wasn't making any fuss about so as not to hurt my ex but had told him my 40 th was coming up...at the same time another guy who really likes me but told me very nicely it wasn't a good time for him to get into a relationship right now remembered and sent me a great message & prompted all my friends to post me special
greetings- so it was an interesting contrast to help put things in perspective.

I know he's considerate to other people so it's more symbolic- he is choosing not to deepen our relationship right now, so I am going to tell myself firmly 'status: friendship' and back off.

But not mope around waiting or feeling rejected.

It helps that I am feeling really good physically and mentally, and getting my life back on track workwise and proceeding with divorce arrangements.

And Hops- Judith Sills is still kept in my bra like you told me!!!! ( good thing I didn't invite him in there, isn't it! )

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I've slipped into careless eating, gained weight,feel tired all the time, and let my paperwork pile up. I'm on ADs, but still. I am just...not postive. Feeling a wave of identity crisis..

you are in a difficult situation H, you need to give yourself EXTRA care right now, not less.

Start with one thing at a time, for example: clear that table/ go through a pile of bills/ wash the dishes/ cook a meal.

Remember me saying i was out of control with the house/ diet/ exercise etc, it's taken me weeks to get back 'in the groove' and I decided to approach it in a very non-punitive way.
I walk the dog three or four short walks, often all the neighbourhood kids attend on their bikes so it becomes a fun outing and exercise for everyone.

My daybook suggested doing housework in a contemplative way as an act of love so I've been trying not to race around multi-taskign, but be in the moment, and the house is definitely looking prettier.

I read http://www.flylady.net/ and they say it took time for the confusion to accumulate, give it time to sort it out by doing a bit each day and picking up habits like always doing dishes/ disposing of papers/ filling the charity bag or recycle box...

Went to Hobby Lobby and picked up a pile of pretty boxes for the stuff I couldn't decide what to do with, so the clutter is still there, but in disguise.

And I've got back into the habit of planning a meal, even if it's just a frozen tv dinner I select it, pick healthy, microwve some veg with it and buy fruit and take my vitamins.

I've sorted out 2 out of 3 outstanding health issues, and reworked my day- I now go to the swimming pool last thing at night almost every night when everyone else is asleep and it's quiet, it's an all-night place at $50 a month which I have budgeted for, worth every penny.
I wasn't enjoying trying to cram it in during the day.

All these habits have taken tiem to build, but they are my new life, and important to me and I don't let them get side-traced, which will be imnportant as my busiest work months approach.

Routine has a certain comfort-factor for me and when it's broken, I can feel kinda lost and shaky.

routine can be great so long as we are mindful of it- and the things which are working and those which are holding us back.

And a break in routine can be good too- a change is as good as a rest or something like that!

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2006, 11:22:00 AM »
Write,

 I feel so inspired after reading you here. I think what you've accomplished with your own style of routine is absolutely beautiful and I want to try to emulate that. Having the "want to" is what often goes missing.

  Re: antihistimines... allergy-season makes benedryl a staple item for me and sometimes I take it at bedtime to avoid waking up with that elephant-in-the-nose sensation. It doesn't make me sleepy if I take it during the day, but I guess it does most people.

And ~ I will remember this, Write ~ Mindful Routine. Yes. Don't want any invisible hooks reeling me in. Thank you!

Love,
Hope

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2006, 07:07:04 PM »
Dear ((((((Beth))))),
I am unable to sleep at night without ambien, on which I am totally dependent right now. I am not even going to try to wean off it until I have found a job. I also take my ADs.

I have gained 15 pounds in the last year and a half. I'm at the edge of the "healthy" range for my height. I eat gumdrops as though I have them confused with vegetables, and I do not floss. I can't suck it in anymore. When I do my head expands from the pressure so I can't fit through doorways. I keep staring at my stomach trying to figure out who glued this theater prop onto my frame. I am perfectly happy with my derriere because it's behind me so I never think about it, unless I am trying to get into pants that don't have an elastic waist. Someone has clearly been into my room at night and replaced my wardrobe with some other woman's clothes. It's either been very cleverly done or there's an alternate universe and I fell in.

Remember that cozy room I described on the Surroundings thread? It's here somewhere, but danged if I know where. I can see my dog because her tail goes around the bed like a snorkel tube. Most of the rest of my room I just remember by reputation.

I watch TV as though they just invented it and put the first one in my room. What if I miss something? Plus which, it is obvious that half the designers on Project Runway are depending on me to send them creative thoughts. It's an obligation. And they couldn't rescue all those puppies on Animal Planet if I wasn't sitting there moaning.

In a nutshell, I ain't doing so well, and if a little NyQuil is the worst thing you can come up with, dear, it's not so bad. Be kind to yourself and remember that Beth is Beth and the only one there is. You deserve to like yourself and BRAVO for being sick of the diet thing. Deprivation never works.

No beating up on yourself, hon. It's against the rules. (As must be obvious, I follow them all.)

((((((Beth))))))

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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2006, 07:14:04 PM »
Dear Write,
I so so so so feel for you. You are trying VALIANTLY to break the old fusion-love habit. I know, absolutely know, you will get there. Bless you for staying so conscious about what is happening in terms of your own tendencies. That is extremely courageous and bodes very well for your life, regardless of whether This Is The One. I am very impressed.

My only cure has been to just stop. This coming Xmas it will be 2 years since I've been involved withanyone, and I've needed it. The first year was hard and since that benchmark I've been more and more at ease. I would still so like a partner, but not if it's going to take me back to that agony of feeling out of control and unbalanced. (I can manage that even without romance in my life.)

I am sure this man is a nice person so I do not expect this book to be a portrait of him, but since Judith Sills has been a good bosom buddy  :? --trust me on one more title? Men Who Can't Love was invaluable to me, not because ALL the men I knew were commitment-averse, but because it SO SPECIFICALLY spelled out the signals and behaviors. It was also a huge huge huge help because it does not rule out relationships that are getting out of balance recovering, but it literally spells out the very specific responses you can/should have to specific distancing behaviors.

It really was a huge help...hope you'll give it a try. I do know what it's like, so well. (((((Write))))

And thank you so much for noticing I'm floundering and offering those caring suggestions. I am very touched and you just made me feel less lonely. (I did that sermon because it's a big issue.)

Thanks again for your sensitivity.

I'm sending you the steadiness I lack at the moment but I think sometimes it works that way...

Hops
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Re: Secret Bad Habit
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2006, 07:42:40 PM »
It's been a hard-working if happy few days of coming to realisations, working, talking to a close friend about her plans for her terminally sick husband, making divorce arrangements...the wind just dropped out of my sails on my return from doing a memorial service, my boy's been home sick all day so I haven't had the usual quiet time to re-compose.

I thought I'll log on here and suddenly hoped Hop would have seen my post and thrown me another line- the Judith Sills was so what I needed a few months ago- and here it is.

Thank you!

Steadiness received and- now I'm back in place- right back at ya!

made me feel less lonely

Life is such a balance between being engulfed/overwhelmed and being isolated. Don't be lonely Hop, pm me anytime!

Going to walk my dog and commune with nature.

ps our British gum drop candy favourite is called 'fruit gums', many days I have had my full five helpings...