Author Topic: Phobias  (Read 15284 times)

Hopalong

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Re: Phobias
« Reply #75 on: October 28, 2006, 01:23:33 AM »
Thanks, Stormy, and you've got it!
(((Stormy))))

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Re: Phobias
« Reply #76 on: October 28, 2006, 02:24:32 AM »
Hi Guys , I am bipolar and we as a group can have addictions sexual ,gambling,mood swings( if not taking meds thats my experience) drinking etc.

Well I have been blessed I have a good marriage I have never been interested in gambling or drinking .

I do not know how this will come across but here goes I can not handle money.I have bought stuff I have not needed in  hyper manic states.
And in my marriage have broken trust with Mr moon about spending money.

I have been on meds for four years and in that time I have rebuilt the trust once broken.
And it was hard to understand this thing I once could not control.

And Mr moon deserves the truth and so do I that truth came when I was diagnosed with bipolar and all though that was hard to hear
it opened the door to my hearts healing which I work on every day .
He understands and so do I this has been most painful as I try to have some sense of self esteem.

I now do not find myself in  hyper manic states and have not for four years . It has been HARD for me to step out of that state of being and it is because of the medicine
and my doctor also getting the support here.

For so many years I was lost a slave to the tightrope walking of bipolar.The medicine and my T and the support here have helped a lot.
I have much guilt and shame connected to being bipolar and the way it manifested .

I am in a better state of being than ever and am so glad I am not experiencing life being self destructive in this way.Also I am gratefull I only had one of these types
of self destructive behaviors .

Never did I think I could be where I am now .......
What I fear is some how "falling off the wagon"

Losing trust in oneself hurts and that would hurt my dear ones as well This is what is hard knowing I have hurt the ones I love so much.
Also I am very scared to post this but here goes...........................

A really real moon

Hopalong

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Re: Phobias
« Reply #77 on: October 28, 2006, 06:26:45 AM »
Awws, Moon. You're not alone. So many people with bipolar disorder have found that spending sprees were a part of the illness. Thank you for sharing this here.

Are you saying you are fearing that urge right now? Or just sharing another layer of yourself?

Either way, dear, you are a shining, honest Moon.

There is nothing to be ashamed about. That was illness behavior.

Bless you and Mr. Moon too. And if you need help right now, just say.

(((((((((Moon))))))))))

Hops
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Re: Phobias
« Reply #78 on: October 28, 2006, 07:04:17 AM »
Hi Brigid

re the mouse being higher on the species list for me, I rate that simply because it has a limbic brain and the snake does not (interesting brain info here which cites snakes and mice http://www.psycheducation.org/emotion/triune%20brain.htm ). As for what that might mean….? I was thinking in terms of relationships with animals and how we interact with them – and them with us. There is something deeply odd (feels ‘against nature’ but that’s a fuzzy meaningless thing to say!) to me about choosing a reptile over an animal with an emotional brain

Thanks for the air quality info. Yes I’ve worked in what I’d call sick buildings and the effects are similar for me to being on a plane! Everybody else's viruses (viri?) within days. But why do I nearly always get a sore throat/sniffle after a flight? Maybe it’s the pressure on the ear/nose/throat areas? I don’t know.


Hi PP

I didn’t mean to be objective (how impossible is that, here?), just to take away any guilt or negative emotion associated with the ‘should have dones’. Letting it go and making the best of now, kind of thing. 
So, I didn't do such a good job.  It's hard to find the positive in that.

As you said, you were a kid yourself and although that wasn’t his fault, it wasn’t yours either you know? You did the best job that you could probably have done at that time and now you have the opportunity to know that, reflect on who you were then, let yourself accept that and move on today? I hope so, I think so, from all that you’ve said.


Hi Hops

a tattoo as a healing ritual between two people

It’s a bit way-out for me Hops, to be very honest, even between two love partners. For a mother and daughter, it says too much closeness to me (engulfment), but then I’m somewhat avoidant so I’d be running a mile. I don’t know, I’m thinking of sailors with hearts and ‘Mum’ or their girlfriend’s names tattooed on their arms, but then they were away at sea and maybe it was a symbol of their heterosexuality?? Overall the idea feels too intimate to me and is not about the relationship itself, but that’s me.

Re the sunflower, remembering the past with affection is fine but it would be romanticising and elevating one moment to unrealistic levels (for me, obviously). I have a problem with photographs too, with what they appear to represent and how they lie, or how they can allow us to lie to each other and ourselves. I have no photographs of people I know on view! But then I’m an intro, so….

I admit it if it’s not obvious, I cannot respond objectively to a mother-daughter question like yours Hops without some modicum of projection and also wanting to put your relationship right in terms of how I feel my relationship with my mother could have been ‘put right’, but I’m sure that’s very clear to you.

 

(((((((((((Moon))))))))))))

recognising and accepting and facing your fears? Isn’t that a long way from falling off the wagon? I think so. Have no fear here, you are loved Moon 8).
 

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Re: Phobias
« Reply #79 on: October 28, 2006, 07:13:58 AM »
Yup, Portia. I am convinced. As I was too enmeshed with my D in her younger days. Point well taken.

Among my D's tattoos are one for each of her parents. She had an eagle with 2 roses and a banner clenched in its talons tatooed on the inside of her upper right arm. On the banner, it says Father, and she told me, I miss him, and now I can hug him whenever I want. And she squeezed her arm against her side. About broke my heart.

Her next one was a woman with dragon, and an empty banner. She said, this one is for you, Mom, and the banner is for the name of your novel when you finish it. Again I was blown away...she knows that my writing is what I was born for and that for many years, apart from poetry, I've been unable to do it.

So perhaps that's where I got my notion of it being symbolic of relationships--isn't that what sailors often did? I sometimes watch Miami Ink, and people are always going in for tattoos that commemorate relationships. I've seen whole baby portraits tattooed on parents. She did say it would be cool to get it for myself, just not to do it for her. I get it. Hers were just gifts of love, mine I'd intended more as a ritual. I'm not entirely straight on it yet so that's a very good reason not to do it now. Maybe never. Thanks, P.

Wasn't looking forward to the hole-punching anyway!  :shock:

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Re: Phobias
« Reply #80 on: October 28, 2006, 08:45:10 AM »
Hi Moon,

You did a brave thing in sharing something difficult with us.  I hope you feel pretty good about that.

Love, Pennyplant
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John Lennon

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Re: Phobias
« Reply #81 on: October 28, 2006, 09:00:08 AM »
Hiya Hops again :D

On the banner, it says Father, and she told me, I miss him, and now I can hug him whenever I want. And she squeezed her arm against her side.

Beautiful! She knows how to love herself too it feels, to me. Not sure i could ever be that....honest about my love for anyone. Really! :?

She said, this one is for you, Mom, and the banner is for the name of your novel when you finish it.
Is that a motivator or what?! Fabulous.

So perhaps that's where I got my notion of it being symbolic. She did say it would be cool to get it for myself, just not to do it for her. I get it. Hers were just gifts of love

I don't know if they were gifts of love? Gifts of love to herself maybe? not sure. Could also be a statement of her identity to herself - these were/are my parents, I keep them with me?

I don't know. We never know do we what someone else thinks unless we ask them?! I know we operate on assumptions all the time, otherwise life would get very tedious, constantly rechecking and testing understanding...but hey, you know what I'm like :D if it can be yakked about, yak about it. Just need to find me a Yak to facilitate the process 8) Hope you're having a good saturday Hops.

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Re: Phobias
« Reply #82 on: October 28, 2006, 01:12:15 PM »
Hi Hops ,Portia,Pennyp,

Yes I am not going out and spending money and I am looking back and wishing I had the understanding I have now.Looking back I wished I had had a deeper understanding of self .

I am not falling off the wagon I think I am  "borrowing trouble " and  "doing the what if's ".

Everyone is so honest and I guess I wanted to be brave and tell my truth I have a girlfriend that is bipolar she has been through so much and shame is not so much a problem for her she is just so glad to be healthy now.

I am grateful for your gentle kindness.

So much Love to all

I got to go do the dishes what a satisfying experience ..............................
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