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gratitude28

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How Would You React?
« on: March 06, 2007, 06:18:25 AM »
I was reading the paper... one of the advice columns... and a man had written that his girlfriend was stealing money from him in the house. He made lots of excuses for her and then asked the columnist what to do.
She asked him if he was the kind of guy who gets mad when someone picks his pocket, or if he figures, well, the guy must have needed it...

I have to say that I work hard not to be the kind of person who thinks the pickpocket needed the money more than me. I think I am so used to being taken advantage of that it is still hard for me to take my own side in an issue... even one where I am definitely not to blame.

Where would you fall? Indignant? Or quasi-understanding?
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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2007, 06:26:08 AM »
Oh Grats, that happens so often!!! I know several people who would react the same exact way. I guess we start understanding a little about people who were abused, grow up and continue being abused. They do not know what to do. They do not know. We need to help people who ignore what to do. I do not know how, but I wish we could. I imagine for example, if they ask as a question in arabic language, we would not know what to answer.

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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2007, 07:25:41 AM »
Hi Beth,


Well lets say I drive a convertible.  I park on a busy street and leave the top down.  I also leave my wallet in plain sight and walk away.  Someone takes the wallet and skedaddles.   Two things.  That makes me a fool and it makes the person who took my wallet a thief. 

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gratitude28

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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2007, 07:35:07 AM »
Yes, tt, that is a great example that relates to the one I gave.

In my own life, I was robbed in my home and still felt bad for the robbers (yet angry and scared and crazy for a long while too).

But you are right. I do "leave my wallet" when it comes to many situations. And that is good to keep in mind.

Love,Beth
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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2007, 07:36:01 AM »
Well this is the guys g/f so I wonder why she feels the need to steal it.  A. I would think she had some kind of problem drugs/Alcohol keeping it hidden. B. She was getting ready to leave and stocking up (some kind of hidden agenda) or C she was just a thief.   Either way you go I would feel robbed and angry.

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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2007, 08:16:32 AM »

** Firstly,  "how would I react?"

I really do go for the "leave my wallet" analogy - brilliant, will remember that.


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** Secondly, for me, whilst pondering on the situation, I considered that it illustrated "Enabling Behavior"


The b/f's g/f stole money from him - firstly, how must he have felt regarding Trust in their relationship?

What of open Communication? If she was genuinely in need of money.

Enabling - If the b/f dismisses and makes excuses for the g/f about her taking money from him and does nothing, by that I mean, talk with her, as Deb says, has she got a problem??   

But the reality is this, that he is doing her no kindness at all, especially with regard to long term, choosing to make excuses over and above, working this through with his g/f, in addressing whatever her problem may be - the reason for her motivation to steal the money from him. 

In making excuses for her, he is in effect, enabling her behavior, of theft, and, the real danger is at this early stage, she has no opportunity to confront and deal with her problem. 

And the g/f's problem with grow.


Hope is okay to share this - if not, please ignore.

Leah xx

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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2007, 09:02:42 PM »
That is all true Leah. Actually, I had no question about the original issue... if someone were stealing from me (or if someone cheated on me, say) I would have no problem ejecting the person from my life.
On the flip side, I would feel sorry for the person. I always do. I feel like if a person is that dumb and that desperate, they can't be very happy.
But sometimes I feel bad for them when I should be feeling bad for ME. You know what I mean???
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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2007, 09:17:30 PM »
Hi Beth,

Sorry, I answered, replied, in a two parts, firstly " how would I react", and then secondly, I was merely just working through, pondering, on the actual situation, as for me, it perfectly illustrated "Enabling behavior"

Certainly is heart wrenching regarding the dynamics of Victim and Perpetrator.

Perpetrator's may well have had situations in their lives that brought them to the edge as it were.

But thats just own feelings and thoughts.

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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2007, 09:42:49 PM »
Yes, it is a PRIME example of enabling.
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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2007, 06:23:02 AM »
Good morning Grat.How are you today? I did not know that you had to take meds. Sorry about that. I will be praying for you.

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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2007, 07:33:25 AM »
It's OK, Lupita. I have a family history of depression and also thyroid disease. The thyroid really threw me out of whack for a while. It's amazing that you don't even know which end is up with that disease!!! So I am thrilled to be healthy and alsot o have my mond in a really good place. After finding this board and realizing what was bogging me down all these years, I just feel like a real person at last.
Love, Beth
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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2007, 11:27:13 PM »
Dear Grat, I am so sorry to hear about your pain. I understand you. It must be a pain in the neck to have to be carefully taking medicines every singel day. Thyroid is very delicate. The dosis has to be so exact. What do you have? Hypo or Hyper? I imaginen since you have depression that you have Hypo. The arms feel heavy, the legs feel heavy, no energy, hard to move, get up in the morning is a major accomplishement. Gaining waight. But it is so nice that you found the right medication.
God bless you. Praying for you.

Dobri biecher.

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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2007, 11:34:55 PM »
Hey Lupe,
I actually had Grave's disease, so a good mix of all the bad stuff. They got rid of my thyroid with nuclear medicine... I guess I glowed for a few days or weeks. I had weight loss, weight gain, manic periods, depression, anxiety... can't even remember most of it unless someone reminds me of something specific from that time. Also had two little kids, was in Italy and my husband was gone. And I had a basically negligent Doctor.
But all is good now and I am happy to have it behind me and so thankful to feel level at last.
Did you have thyroid issues?
Love, Beth
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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2007, 12:19:48 AM »
hi you two

I had Euthyroid (spelling is right?) not Hyper-- or Hypo-

Had a nodule on the right side, removed and no medication needed.

Lost weight, trembling hands, heart palpitations that felt like anxiety attacks--1998

Had my throat slit and went home the next day!

Oh Lordy!
Izzy


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Re: How Would You React?
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2007, 05:46:59 PM »
Hi Grat, no, no problems. My problems are in my back. But the worst problems I have are in my head. How are you today?

Izzi, how are you today?

God bless you.

Lupita