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BonesMS

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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2025 on: December 29, 2010, 06:13:06 AM »
Hi Bones,

It's not being able to sit out doors (that drives me crazy) about winter.  And winter (from now) till spring ...drag's.  Ugh!

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That too.  I've noticed that the colder the air gets, the more my bronchial tubes gunk up and I have to use my inhaler more.
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« Reply #2026 on: December 29, 2010, 02:10:51 PM »
Hey Bones,
Hope you can get out for a walk now while the sun is bright...
even a slow stroll in the brightest part of the day, every day--
may help you feel better.

Nature's not the enemy and sometimes you'll see a bird or a
plant and something about its shape will speak to your spirit
and remind you THIS IS CHANGING before our eyes and it will
soon be amazing us with the explosion of softness and warmth
and beauty...

Another idea--isn't there some beautiful indoor conservatory
near you? I think so. Walking indoors in nice humid air with
explosions of growing plants all around you...worth the effort.

love and hugs,
Hops
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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2027 on: December 29, 2010, 02:18:46 PM »
Hey Bones,
Hope you can get out for a walk now while the sun is bright...
even a slow stroll in the brightest part of the day, every day--
may help you feel better.

Nature's not the enemy and sometimes you'll see a bird or a
plant and something about its shape will speak to your spirit
and remind you THIS IS CHANGING before our eyes and it will
soon be amazing us with the explosion of softness and warmth
and beauty...

Another idea--isn't there some beautiful indoor conservatory
near you? I think so. Walking indoors in nice humid air with
explosions of growing plants all around you...worth the effort.

love and hugs,
Hops

Thanks, Hops.

Bones
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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2028 on: December 30, 2010, 07:18:31 AM »
Feeling deeply depressed this morning.
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« Reply #2029 on: December 30, 2010, 08:43:13 AM »
(((((((((((Bones)))))))))))

Wish you had a little SAD light.
Mine really helps me on winter mornings.

xo
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« Reply #2030 on: December 30, 2010, 08:47:01 AM »
(((((((((((Bones)))))))))))

Wish you had a little SAD light.
Mine really helps me on winter mornings.

xo
Hops

Thanks, Hops.

I wish I could afford one.
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« Reply #2031 on: December 31, 2010, 06:00:37 AM »
Just checking in.
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« Reply #2032 on: December 31, 2010, 08:35:36 AM »
Waving back atcha...

I'm going through a weird, kinda restless energy thing. Don't want to sit around doing nothing... but don't have anything jumping out at me, that I really want to do. Guess I'm sorta "stir crazy"!!
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« Reply #2033 on: December 31, 2010, 08:56:43 AM »
Waving back atcha...

I'm going through a weird, kinda restless energy thing. Don't want to sit around doing nothing... but don't have anything jumping out at me, that I really want to do. Guess I'm sorta "stir crazy"!!

I can identify with that!

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« Reply #2034 on: December 31, 2010, 12:33:32 PM »
Okay, Miz B--right now is maximum sunshine and if where you are is as mild and bright as where I am...

can you get thee to a park bench for some happy rays?

Nature's antidepressant.

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« Reply #2035 on: December 31, 2010, 01:11:07 PM »
Okay, Miz B--right now is maximum sunshine and if where you are is as mild and bright as where I am...

can you get thee to a park bench for some happy rays?

Nature's antidepressant.

xo
Hops

I'm waiting for my hair to dry before I go outside.  A friend will be taking me out to dinner at about 4:00 PM and another friend is picking me up for a New Year's Eve party around 8:00 PM.

Thanks, Hops!

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« Reply #2036 on: January 01, 2011, 07:03:01 AM »
My mood is still very down this morning.  Staying up late then not being able to fall asleep until about 3:00 AM this morning, and waking up about three hours later didn't help much.   :P

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« Reply #2037 on: January 01, 2011, 08:18:16 AM »
Hey Bones... does your mood improve as the day continues? (at least sometimes?) I'm wondering... working on a theory.

See, I generally allow myself at least 1/2 hour to "wake up" every day. That requires coffee, as fast as I can drink it and a dark room and at least one cat. Sometimes a dog too. And in this space of time, my thoughts will pick up threads of dreams and puzzle over them... I'll spend a bit of time with leaky eyes... grieving in general, it feels like a non-specific anxiety... or about some specific loss that I've experienced. I stretch a bit... try to feel whether I'm achy or sore in parts of my body. Breathe intentionally; consciously for a bit.

But one thing I'm not doing is thinking with a purpose - that left brain, problem-solving, detail-oriented crap. In fact, my thoughts jump around and may even be just fragments of ideas, or observations... and don't even connect to each other. Free-floating me coming back to conscious existence after whatever happens when I sleep. It's a cocoon-time; warm and safe in the darkness... watching for first light; alone - and happy to be so; listening for whatever is the "topic of the day" from my unconscious self; my inner chld... the Twiggy who is still there but is way more quietly satisfied and helpful than in the past.

It takes a couple more cups of coffee and a cigarette, before I can understand what hubby is saying to me and I can reply coherently. I'm so inwardly focussed on my own subjective experience of being alive - it's as if my normal reality is the dream, sometimes. I prefer to take my time transitioning from one state of consciousness to the other. But I can also snap to, when it's necessary, immediately. When MIL needed help getting to the bathroom she'd ring me at 1:30 or 5:30 am... and I'd be up in a flash and fully conscious. (But then - a ringing phone has always been a trigger for me as it figured prominently in Twiggy's story.) When I am called on to make that transition quickly, I'm conscious of feeling assaulted; of being forced to do something that's not natural to me (become conscious quickly); and I find the physical effects very unpleasant.

So.... that's the preamble explanation of what my theory is... and how it might relate to what I've been noticing in your posts. Maybe, when you sleep... your unconscious is doing a lot of your "inner work"; maybe it's grieving... working thru anger (which can be depressing)... maybe this other part of yourself is having a complete and total blast o' fun while you sleep and flat out doesn't want to wake up to "reality"... just yet. But as you transition, assume a presence in your body again, take up your usual daily consciousness... it's happening too abruptly for "comfort"... which you experience as being blue or down, emotionally. Your later in the day posts have a different "flavor" to them... as if your mood improves as you get into your day... sometimes.

Maybe? Or is this just one of my far-fetched wacko ideas? I know I've been wondering what the purpose of my cocoon time is, for me. Sometimes I think it's way more significant that how I described it above... and sometimes I think I'm just hanging on to a habit that I just happen to like... and being lazy because I can.
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« Reply #2038 on: January 01, 2011, 08:55:23 AM »
Hey Bones... does your mood improve as the day continues? (at least sometimes?) I'm wondering... working on a theory.

See, I generally allow myself at least 1/2 hour to "wake up" every day. That requires coffee, as fast as I can drink it and a dark room and at least one cat. Sometimes a dog too. And in this space of time, my thoughts will pick up threads of dreams and puzzle over them... I'll spend a bit of time with leaky eyes... grieving in general, it feels like a non-specific anxiety... or about some specific loss that I've experienced. I stretch a bit... try to feel whether I'm achy or sore in parts of my body. Breathe intentionally; consciously for a bit.

But one thing I'm not doing is thinking with a purpose - that left brain, problem-solving, detail-oriented crap. In fact, my thoughts jump around and may even be just fragments of ideas, or observations... and don't even connect to each other. Free-floating me coming back to conscious existence after whatever happens when I sleep. It's a cocoon-time; warm and safe in the darkness... watching for first light; alone - and happy to be so; listening for whatever is the "topic of the day" from my unconscious self; my inner chld... the Twiggy who is still there but is way more quietly satisfied and helpful than in the past.

It takes a couple more cups of coffee and a cigarette, before I can understand what hubby is saying to me and I can reply coherently. I'm so inwardly focussed on my own subjective experience of being alive - it's as if my normal reality is the dream, sometimes. I prefer to take my time transitioning from one state of consciousness to the other. But I can also snap to, when it's necessary, immediately. When MIL needed help getting to the bathroom she'd ring me at 1:30 or 5:30 am... and I'd be up in a flash and fully conscious. (But then - a ringing phone has always been a trigger for me as it figured prominently in Twiggy's story.) When I am called on to make that transition quickly, I'm conscious of feeling assaulted; of being forced to do something that's not natural to me (become conscious quickly); and I find the physical effects very unpleasant.

So.... that's the preamble explanation of what my theory is... and how it might relate to what I've been noticing in your posts. Maybe, when you sleep... your unconscious is doing a lot of your "inner work"; maybe it's grieving... working thru anger (which can be depressing)... maybe this other part of yourself is having a complete and total blast o' fun while you sleep and flat out doesn't want to wake up to "reality"... just yet. But as you transition, assume a presence in your body again, take up your usual daily consciousness... it's happening too abruptly for "comfort"... which you experience as being blue or down, emotionally. Your later in the day posts have a different "flavor" to them... as if your mood improves as you get into your day... sometimes.

Maybe? Or is this just one of my far-fetched wacko ideas? I know I've been wondering what the purpose of my cocoon time is, for me. Sometimes I think it's way more significant that how I described it above... and sometimes I think I'm just hanging on to a habit that I just happen to like... and being lazy because I can.

Thanks, P.R.

Your theory makes a LOT of sense...especially about the grieving part!

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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #2039 on: January 02, 2011, 07:14:56 AM »
Managed to get a little more sleep last night.
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