Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?

[BonesMS]

Hey Bones, on the geneology topic...

What do you do when you get back to the Civil War eras? I was trying to get back to an emigration point for hubs' family, but ran into one of those brick walls in the 1860s, in NC. They didn't keep great records out in the sticks, but there is an annual reunion of like 4 families and they don't really go back any further than I was able to get, either. The curiosity about this came up during conversation with a family friend from Yorkshire, England who said there were "family name" in a nearby village. Hubs is odd because both his mom & dad had the same family name -- yet were in no way related. (Tho' I tease him about this...)

My mom's family is easy; we had community history (mennonite) and I even found Ellis Island records and a picture of the boat my great-grandfather came across in. My Dad's family is a dead-end after his Dad. The name was researched to Swedish origins - but his Dad was supposedly black Irish (and both my Dad and I had the red hair/freckles recessive gene). He died young of an appendix rupture. (so the story goes, anyway) I have 1 picture of him. Makes me think that side of the family was Vikings... which would explain SOOO much, you know??

LOL.

Hi, P.R.!

In response to your question, I'll need to look to refresh my memory.  Off the top of my head, the port of entry, before Ellis Island opened was Castle Garden.  There may have been other ports of entry during the 1860's that I have to research.  Also, there might be a possibility that many of the North Carolina records were lost during the Civil War.  I'll do a bit more "digging" to see what I can find out.

[BonesMS]

Hi, again, P.R.

Here's some information I found:

http://www.genesearch.com/ports.html

[Meh]

Before there was all this computerized and SS number stuff etc. on occasion family records would be intentionally destroyed for political reasons etc.

It's all sort of interesting how many people are combined over and over again for hundreds of years to end up with the one person now looking backwards.

Last night I found my Grandmother's death record here: https://familysearch.org/

[BonesMS]

Before there was all this computerized and SS number stuff etc. on occasion family records would be intentionally destroyed for political reasons etc.

It's all sort of interesting how many people are combined over and over again for hundreds of years to end up with the one person now looking backwards.

Last night I found my Grandmother's death record here: https://familysearch.org/

It's fascinating how it all happens...especially the mysteries that crop up from time to time.

[BonesMS]

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[Meh]

You sort of made me curious and inspired- so I spent the past evening doing the google thing of census records, death info etc.

Thankfully one of my father's distant cousins in Missouri has a wife who was trying to look up ancestry and had a specific name of a town from the "old country". She had more info than I have but it seems I'm a better sleuth.

I was able to trace my grandmothers family on my father's side backwards to where my great, great, great grandfather was born in 1823 before they came to the United States.

I love some of those old fashioned women's names. I wonder how much more info I could find out beyond just doing the google thing.

It seems that the verbal history is indispensable though. Some people are born in one country and then live in another then migrate somewhere else. It's hard to figure out just by papers. It also seems like it gets tricky when crossing out of english speaking areas.

One woman who was trying to research her family history found out that her family had been rounded up by communists along with other people and into a barn that was set on fire. People in the town confirmed it for her.






 

[BonesMS]

You sort of made me curious and inspired- so I spent the past evening doing the google thing of census records, death info etc.

Thankfully one of my father's distant cousins in Missouri has a wife who was trying to look up ancestry and had a specific name of a town from the "old country". She had more info than I have but it seems I'm a better sleuth.

I was able to trace my grandmothers family on my father's side backwards to where my great, great, great grandfather was born in 1823 before they came to the United States.

I love some of those old fashioned women's names. I wonder how much more info I could find out beyond just doing the google thing.

It seems that the verbal history is indispensable though. Some people are born in one country and then live in another then migrate somewhere else. It's hard to figure out just by papers. It also seems like it gets tricky when crossing out of english speaking areas.

One woman who was trying to research her family history found out that her family had been rounded up by communists along with other people and into a barn that was set on fire. People in the town confirmed it for her.
 

Wow, Starlight!!!!

Isn't it amazing what you can find?

One of the other things that I do is join various online genealogy forums where I can compare notes and ask questions.  Brainstorming ideas often come up this way.

[Meh]

Yeah, I guess I needed a new thing to fixate on.

I stayed up all night obsessing some more and pouring over details--just cleared up some more specific information. Where the cemeteries are and even found a church record. One thing led to another and in an old vandalized cemetery in St. Louis there is the grave of my great-great-great grandparents. The church that was associated with the grave for some reason had some documents translated into English--What a stroke of luck! It pointed back to their "homeland" so I was able to confirm the details of what my father's cousin had heard word of mouth. I had no clue my relatives came from that area-I googled it to see what it looks like. This may be the end of my research though unless I learn a foreign language and do some international traveling. Pretty cool because I wasn't sure if I would even get that far.

 I kept on looking at the Ellis Island records but couldn't find the passenger records--there were a bunch of ports of entry though besides Ellis Island so I may still find some records somehow. I'm hoping that eventually I can figure more about the passage details.

  

[BonesMS]

Yeah, I guess I needed a new thing to fixate on.

I stayed up all night obsessing some more and pouring over details--just cleared up some more specific information. Where the cemeteries are and even found a church record. One thing led to another and in an old vandalized cemetery in St. Louis there is the grave of my great-great-great grandparents. The church that was associated with the grave for some reason had some documents translated into English--What a stroke of luck! It pointed back to their "homeland" so I was able to confirm the details of what my father's cousin had heard word of mouth. I had no clue my relatives came from that area-I googled it to see what it looks like. This may be the end of my research though unless I learn a foreign language and do some international traveling. Pretty cool because I wasn't sure if I would even get that far.

 I kept on looking at the Ellis Island records but couldn't find the passenger records--there were a bunch of ports of entry though besides Ellis Island so I may still find some records somehow. I'm hoping that eventually I can figure more about the passage details.

  

It's amazing what you can find out!!!  Who knows, you might find an online genealogy group that specializes in that particular homeland.

[BonesMS]

Been busy all day and have another busy day tomorrow.

Once I get rested up, I can talk more.

[BonesMS]

How many of us can relate to the first letter in "Annie's Mailbox" today?

http://www.creators.com/advice/annies-mailbox/managing-despite-manipulative-parents.html

[BonesMS]

Participated in a CERT Disaster Drill as a "victim" covered in moulage.  This experience was really cool because smoke machines were used to simulate the aftermath of a bomb blast and everyone from CERT responders to campus police to actual ambulances were involved with the drill.  Excellent learning experiences for all!

[BonesMS]

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[BonesMS]

Over the weekend, I did encounter one know-it-all-N who was hell-bent on forcing me to do what SHE wanted after I told her NO several times!!!

One of the rules that was emphasized, repeatedly, was:  "Do NOT bring another victim to the disaster!"  This means do NOT put yourself or anyone else in harm's way if they are not already injured....either pretend or in real life.  An example was with the use of the cloth stretchers that have SIX hand-holds on them...THREE to a side....it is designed that way for a reason and it REQUIRES SIX PEOPLE to use it!  We all practiced with them the day before the exercise and were reminded, repeatedly, that SIX PEOPLE ARE REQUIRED TO USE THEM!  During the disaster scenario, two people attempted to ignore that instruction and started to pick up a victim laying on one of the cloth stretchers.  Those of us, nearby, stepped out of our "injured" characters and shouted:  "NO! DO NOT PICK HER UP!  GET FOUR OTHER RESCUERS BEFORE YOU TOUCH HER! OTHERWISE YOU WILL HURT HER AND YOURSELVES REAL WORLD!!!!!"  The "would-be-rescuers" got the message and recruited four others to assist them.

I was still on the ground and staying in character as a living "burn" victim when the N started cranking up her nonsense!  "I'll help you up!  They are not coming back!  I know it all!"  I tried to remind her that she is supposed to be playing "dead" and "dead" people are NOT supposed to be talking and attempting to control the scenario!  (Essentially, lay down, shut up, and play dead!  LEAVE ME ALONE!)  I did NOT want her to touch me because (1) she does not know my real-world disabilities and could easily injure me, (2) she could easily injure herself by attempting to pick me up by herself, (3) she could easily drop me because she doesn't have the physical strength to lift me....I kept enforcing my boundaries and I could see she was PISSED OFF!!!  (Too bad!)

God save me from N's!!!!!!!!

[BonesMS]

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