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Re: Struggle continues
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2007, 11:16:23 AM »
I have been thinking about this post while I was at the gym.I am going to be really honest.If you want to throw cyberspace tomatoes-- so be it.
  I think that different people have different levels of abuse. It is very easy to tell s/one else  how they should "get over it". There ARE different levels of victimization. They are as different as two different "cultures". The thought process(in the victim) that results from severe abuse is "skewed". It is not going to get better with 'affirmations(IMO).It takes a dredging of the swamp.AFTER the swamp is dredged, then affirmations or positive thoughts can  apply.
 One person's abuse is so different than another persons. .
  As I heal,I have had to stay strong against people who wanted to tell me to do it a "different( better) way. I am glad that I did not listen.I am glad that I had enough backbone(when it came right down to it) to trust myself. My ultimate goal is to trust myself----not win any popularity contests.
  That is one huge goal of healing-- to learn to trust ourselves.
  I think that a really abused person needs to accept WHERE they are----right now. That is the first step to healing. Then==face,face,face the pain. Then replace the old brainwashing with new ideas.
 That is my opinion                 Ami
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2007, 07:29:40 PM »
Imagine being in a small boat drifting in a river. And imagine being unaware that your boat has a motor. As long as you fail to use that motor you will be a captive of the river. You will be a prisoner without any control over your destination. Yet, the boat that you're in does have a motor. You can use it to change course. That motor is your power of choice. 


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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2007, 09:56:03 PM »
started my day at 5:00 am. Tought school all day, and had several negative interaction with the new principal. I know that they did not wnat me there since before Dr U. Now Dr U is not there anymore. I sitll feel unwelcome. I know that I have to work and not need anymore than my paycheck.
It is so sad when I see all others being happy and laughing and rexieivng smiles from her, smiles that I never recieve. I know that I have to find something else. But I have to survive this year.
Very lonely. Extremely lonely. Life sucks.

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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2007, 11:11:20 PM »
((((Lupita))))-

Sorry that you are having such a hard time. Hope you find time to be with your friends and loved ones, and you can put the professional world in an emotional "box" until you are in a better place. Enjoy your work as much as posible and keep your heart protected until you are with your loved ones.

Love and Best Wishes for a Happy Friday ( the weekend is coming!!!)

Love,

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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2007, 12:35:36 AM »
Lupita

I am sorry that you feel bad about your life.  Seems like you are lost and you cannot find your way out of the pain.  Many people have written to you to tell you that you are the only one who can change your life.  Seems like you cannot comprehend this and do not know how to do it.  I wish you would have a big realization, a big revelation and finally see that only you have the power to change your life.  What can you do to change your life?  How about these:

If you don’t like the $30 therapist, find someone you do like.

Try to stop being so paranoid that everyone in school hates you.  Don’t focus so much on other teachers at school, just try to enjoy teaching and doing your job. 

Stop being so negative.  Negativity only hurts you.  You need to change the way you think, change the way you look at the world.  Your negative attitude is self defeating.  Your own negativity is screwing yourself over.  Why do this to yourself?  Why torture yourself like this?  You are only hurting yourself, can’t you see this?  Can’t you comprehend this?

Please do not start off with a negative attitude towards the new principal.  Just be nice, courteous and professional.  You say you want to receive smiles, but do you give smiles?  People will probably not want to smile at you if you are radiating negativity.  Again, it is within your power:  if you want to receive smiles, don’t have a negative vibration, instead, radiate warmth and positivity.

On the other hand, let’s assume that people at school hate you and no one smiles at you.  So, what are you going to do?  Are you going to let them drive you crazy and make you miserable for the rest of the school year?  Truth is not everyone has to like you, just as you don’t like everyone.  If no one likes you at school even if you are warm and friendly, then the school is a toxic environment, so just do your job the best you can and change jobs for next year.  In the meantime, work on getting rid of your negativity.  Use this experience to help you grow, change and heal. 

Can you look at your life right now in terms of God has put you in this position so that you can learn a lesson.  What is the lesson  God wants you to learn?  Maybe that lesson is to learn to love yourself and to stop being negative and self defeating so that you can live a better, happier life.

How about reading self help books at the library?

How about speaking to your doctor about taking an anti-depressant?  Maybe you feel negative because you feel depressed.  What do you think?


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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2007, 05:41:18 AM »
started my day at 5:00 am. Tought school all day, and had several negative interaction with the new principal. I know that they did not wnat me there since before Dr U. Now Dr U is not there anymore. I sitll feel unwelcome. I know that I have to work and not need anymore than my paycheck.
It is so sad when I see all others being happy and laughing and rexieivng smiles from her, smiles that I never recieve. I know that I have to find something else. But I have to survive this year.
Very lonely. Extremely lonely. Life sucks.


Dear Lupita,

Observer has been brave enough to speak the truth.  It's up to you what you choose to do with it.

"Life sucks" 

Why does life suck??

You have a profession

You have a professional job

You can walk

You can see

You can hear

You can speak

I could go on ......

My dear best friend grasped at life until her last dying breath, at the age of only 30years of age, with her small son left behind asking "where is my mommy?"

The difference is -- she always said "It's a Wonderful Life" and she never gave up her warm genuine smile.

Oh, she had reason to feel bitter, but she chose not to.  Would add that her Mother (most likely an N) never once visited her or offered a word of comfort.

Life does not suck.

Life is precious.

So live it, please, by being true to yourself first, and then you will be able to equip yourself to make the most of it.

With sincerity,

Love, Leah
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2007, 06:17:58 AM »
Hello friends. We went to a game. Three teachers were in charge of one bus. When we were leaving the drivier (teacher) just took everybody and went to the bus while I was one moment in the bathroom. The new principal (ex assistant principal) never has anything positive. I asked her if hse had seen him. Instead of sayiing yes or no, she just said "I hope he has the fifth graders" It was like she always say something negative. The mesage I got was that I was not doing a good job. I felt comfortable going to the bathroom because he was there with the children, plus another teacher. Plus one of the children is his own daughter. He would never leave them alone. I was just to the bathroom for a few seconds. I never ever get smiles. Never from that woman and her friends. She smiles to the others. She changes her face when I am in the sorroundings. I think everything comes from the pastor. The pastor is poisoning people against me. I just need to survive this year. Just the rest of the year.
I am sorry for the lack of empathy from some posts. Lack of empathy never helps. Just hurts. It makes me feel even more lonely than I was before, because that means no even in this board I am safe.
It is sad. Very sad.
I guess I should take a brake from the board. I am not equiped with the tools to deal with hurting comments. I feel even more depressed. More lonely and more rejected. Even here I am rejected. I thought I could open my heart here. I am sad that there is no place where I can say what I feel with out being hallmered. Life is sad. I do not like life.

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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2007, 06:31:56 AM »
Dear Lupita,

People freely give of their time and energy posting on your thread posts because they genuinely do care about you, and I include myself.

Genuine care and concern; for how destructive and unhealthy your negative thinking is, for you, and for your health.

Encouragement; to sit and speak with someone face to face, anyone, and talk about your feelings of negativity, and paranoia

your perception of the pastor poisoning everyone against you.  Is this the same pastor who stood up and addressed the whole school for you??

Lupita, if they did not want you to teach, be a care custodian of the young people in your class, then they have the power to
end your contract with notice.

But they have not done that.

Which surely is evidence that they do want you.

They renewed your contract from last year.

Such positive reality speaks for itself.

My thoughts are that the problem lies with your Perception of peoples facial expressions, gestures, and actions --- thinking they are thinking in a certain way against you, when they most likely are not.

You say they don't smile at you --- but how about you?  Do you smile?  Why not be the one to smile first?

Genuine Empathy for negativity with wisdom and signposting for overcoming negativity is what so many have taken their time to
positively give to you, to enable you to make healthy choices.

Choices that only you can make.

Love, Leah
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2007, 06:46:33 AM »
You're going to be OK, Lupita.

Gotta stop letting the despair have it's way with you.... stop mourning and feeling sad that some people suck.... they just do and it's nothing to do with you.  I'm not finger pointing at Leah here.....

That Principal and that Pastor don't know enough about you to judge you the way they have.  It's small minded bigotry and prolly envy, to some degree.

So....... I know it's hard not to despair when you're trapped.  But it helps to just accept whats going on (however unfair) and shrug it off.... skip the despair

There are things waiting for you beyond the despair......

Yes, I realize I keep repeating the thing with the despair, but it's my message to myself this morning too and.....

IT'S BIG!

Don't leave just yet, Lupita...... I know you'll come back but.... I'd be sad if you took that break away from the board right now.  Every post has something to learn from, even if it's something you find you don't agree with or like, it teaches a lesson and strengthens your opinions about yourself and how you'll handle similar things in the future. 


Don't you know.....

some day you'll be helping people who've been where you are? 

That's the next step in the learning process.... you become the teacher and the lessons grow within you.

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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2007, 06:56:22 AM »
Thank you Lighter. I really needed something positive before I went to work this morning. I really needed something to help me cope with the day. Fortunately, in the game I descovered that several kids, many kids, really love me. I need somebody to love me to be able to keep goimg. Bad, I know. Like Pop and bean and so many friends that we call our selves junk needy. I am so needy, that is distroying me.

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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2007, 07:05:42 AM »
Thank you Lighter. I really needed something positive before I went to work this morning. I really needed something to help me cope with the day. Fortunately, in the game I descovered that several kids, many kids, really love me. I need somebody to love me to be able to keep goimg. Bad, I know. Like Pop and bean and so many friends that we call our selves junk needy. I am so needy, that is distroying me.


Dear Lupita,

Respect your honesty in being true about yourself.  That is commendable.

You know Lupita, Genuine Love and Care does not always say the things one wants to hear --- the truth.

The truth about ourselves is the key to freedom --- unlocking the door is a choice.

Love to you today and hope that you have a productive day, hopefully with a nice Lupita style smile  :)

Leah
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2007, 08:53:30 AM »
I need help to dispute irrational thoughts, but they have to be irrational. If I am seeing something that I believe exists, how can somebody call me paranoide?
Today, day has not even started and already had a problem. Kids are waiting for English teacher. Outside alone, with out supervsion. So I go to the office and the secretary tells me she will take care of it. So I go to the teachers room to plan my day and the substitue comes and tells me " I was told that you open the door for children unsupervised enterd Mr. English teacher classroom" I said, no no no. I would never do that. My classroom was vandalized on Monday because somebody open the door for students. Now they know that probably Mr English teacher open the door, so I suffer. And now they come with the ridiculous story that I did it. So, the substitute came and did not find the students. I told the substitute that I am in the hands of the Lord and if they do not like me it is their problem because I am doing an excelletn job with the students and God has to see it. She went to the library to see if she could find them. Mr. Enmglish teacher always comes late, gets coffee from the office, is abusive to the students and everybody loves him. I do a good job, I work hard for my kids. And I am always in trouble. I neevr recieve anything positive.
I guess the only positive thing is that I am still here. But there is something going on that I do not know because I am not part of the group. They do not let me be part of the group. They block me. Why? I do not know. There are four new teachers. They never met before. Now they are wonderful friends. They lunch together. talk in the intermissions, enter the office, drink coffe. And they are new from different states. But they treat them as if they knew them for years. I have one year and a half and they still reject me. No matter what I do. There are several teachers who have children paly nintendo in class, you see the door children are coming in and out of the classroom, no classroom management, those teachers do not have any problem, but I do control my class, my students learn and we are working all the time. I am the one who is rejected. I do not understand life.

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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2007, 09:18:28 AM »
Dear Lupita,
 DON"T run away from the board-- in shame. I understand that you can't "receive " these messages  It is NOT your fault--honestly ,Lupita . You cannot put them in b/c there is no "room" inside you. You are too filled  with pain. I don't think that anyone here(IMO) suffered the way that you did. That is how  I see it.I could be wrong.
  Lupita--it is O.K to be JUST  where you are. You can take baby steps. You already took the first one which is to see that you need help . .
 None of it is your fault. You function beautifully based on how deeply you suffered.
 Please---Lupita stay and work it out. The board is better than a therapist(IMO).
Lupita-- I will help you every step of the way.You can PM me ,if you want.
 I think that you see that I have changed .
 Lupita-----. You are a beautiful  person. Trust me Lupita. None of it was your fault. You were simply brainwashed by a  sadistic person(IMO)  . I am sorry if what I said hurts but I am saying it with  love.                          Ami         
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2007, 01:24:29 PM »
Yikes, Lupita.

I think it get's easier to understand life.... once you figure it's really not fair.

It's just not.  ::shaking head::

You learn to cover your ass..... not stick your neck out for others in an unsafe environment.... like your work environment, and keep keep moving ahead.

Have you ever heard, "No good deed goes unpunished?"

I think that's the case where you work. 

Take care of your responsibilities and put your energy into your duties..... let the rest do the same for themselves.

I'm so glad you felt loved and welcomed by some of your students on that trip...... when you step back, you see there are positives AND negatives, like everywhere else in life.

Try not to get bogged down with the negative things.... there are positive things to dwell on too, ya know?

The good students, the excellent lesson plans you put together, the friendships you do have and the fact that you'll find another place to work soon enough. 

Or not.... it's ok to have down times too.  Just remember..... they won't last forever.  They never do: )



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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2007, 01:29:49 PM »
Lupita:

I know you are angry at some of the things that I wrote.  But I believe that sometimes we have to feel pain in order to get better.  I'd like to look at some of the things you wrote in order to show you what I'm talking about.

You wrote: "Instead of saying yes or no, she just said "I hope he has the fifth graders" It was like she always say something negative. The mesage I got was that I was not doing a good job."

My comment:  Ok, Lupita, so the new principal did not acknowledge your question, so what can you do to help yourself?  How about ignore the fact that she didn't answer your question and just let it go?  Don't take it personally.  The new principal is not your friend.  She is a work colleague.  She doe not have to be your friend and she does not have to like you.  Likewise, you do not have to be her friend and you do not have to like her.

It would be good if you and your colleagues could be friends, but, it’s alright if that doesn’t happen.  You are at school to work, not to make friends, so just do your job in a professional way and do not take the slights of your colleagues personally.

It seems the New principal was concerned with the 5th graders and at that moment was not interested in speaking about the old principal.  If you felt she was saying that you didn’t do a good job with getting the 5th graders on the bus, you could answer that another teacher was there and the bus driver wouldn’t leave the kids because his daughter is in the class.  By saying this, you could have expressed yourself, so you are not voiceless.  But, did you tell the driver and the other teacher that you were going to the bathroom?  If you didn’t, then I can understand why the new principal might be upset.  In any case, whether or not you made a mistake (and I’m not saying you did make a mistake), don’t let it ruin your day.  We all make mistakes, we are human.  So, if you did make a mistake (and I’m not saying you did make a mistake), just forgive yourself, try not to make that mistake in the future and let it go.  Learn whatever lesson you can learn and do not ruminate on it.

You wrote: “I never ever get smiles. Never from that woman and her friends. She smiles to the others. She changes her face when I am in the sorroundings.”

My comment:  Let’s assume the worst case:  Let’s assume that none of your colleagues likes you at school and that you are the scapegoat.  As I asked you yesterday, are you going to let this drive you crazy for the rest of the school year?  Maybe there is a lesson to be learned here and that lesson is that you must create a protective boundary around your feelings so that people who do not like you can’t destroy you.  Maybe the lesson to learn here is that you must create boundaries to protect your feelings so that you do not allow other people to make you feel that “life sucks”.  

You also need to learn the lesson that other people cannot make you feel good or bad about yourself.  Only you can make you feel good or bad about yourself.  Other people can only make you feel good or bad about yourself if you give them the power to do so.  I think you give your power to other people and enable them to make you feel good or bad about yourself.  This is a very important lesson that I hope you learn.  This is the lesson about how we should not give away our power to other people.  At this time Lupita, you give your power to other people and you allow other people to manipulate your emotions regarding how you feel about yourself and your life.

Lupita, I have a great deal of empathy for you.  In fact, I have so much empathy that I feel hurt to see you making the same mistakes over and over again.  If I did not have empathy for you, I wouldn’t be spending my time writing this.  Don’t you want to stop making the same mistakes and start enjoying your life?

You wrote:  I thought I could open my heart here. I am sad that there is no place where I can say what I feel with out being hallmered. Life is sad. I do not like life.

My Comments:  This is not a fair comment and it is not true.  People have been trying to help you for months.  I interpret what you said as meaning that you only want to hear positive comments and you don’t want to hear the truth.  But I think we cannot heal if we do not face the truth.  

You wrote: “Fortunately, in the game I descovered that several kids, many kids, really love me.”

My comments:  You see, people do in fact love you.  You are loved.  

You wrote: I need somebody to love me to be able to keep goimg. Bad, I know. Like Pop and bean and so many friends that we call our selves junk needy. I am so needy, that is distroying me.

My comments:  Well, you said it:  “I need somebody to love me to be able to keep goimg….. we call our selves junk needy. I am so needy, that is distroying me.”  I agree, Lupita, this need to be loved can destroy you.  I think your neediness is why you feel so upset when others do not smile at you.  I think your neediness is what is called “co-dependent”, which means that you allow other people to define you, you give your power to other people so that you allow them to define you.  If they do not smile at you, you feel deeply hurt.  You need boundaries around your own emotions so that if people don’t smile at you, you won’t feel so hurt, you won’t give them the power to hurt you.

You wrote:  Kids are waiting for English teacher. Outside alone, with out supervsion. So I go to the office and the secretary tells me she will take care of it.

My comments:  Why did you get involved in this?  It’s not your class.  It’s not your responsibility.  Let someone else, like the English teacher or the substitute take care of it.  Just do your job, which is to teach your Spanish class.  If you feel that the prinicipal and other teachers don’t like you, then why are you setting yourself up for more problems where they can scapegoat you?

You wrote: Mr. Enmglish teacher always comes late, gets coffee from the office, is abusive to the students and everybody loves him. I do a good job, I work hard for my kids. And I am always in trouble. I neevr recieve anything positive. I guess the only positive thing is that I am still here. But there is something going on that I do not know because I am not part of the group. They do not let me be part of the group. They block me. Why? I do not know. There are four new teachers. They never met before. Now they are wonderful friends. They lunch together. talk in the intermissions, enter the office, drink coffe. And they are new from different states. But they treat them as if they knew them for years. I have one year and a half and they still reject me. No matter what I do. There are several teachers who have children paly nintendo in class, you see the door children are coming in and out of the classroom, no classroom management, those teachers do not have any problem, but I do control my class, my students learn and we are working all the time. I am the one who is rejected. I do not understand life.

My comments:  I see your usual negativity and focusing on other teachers.  Stop being so negative, stop looking at the relationships that other teachers appear to have with each other.  I believe that your negativity is why other teachers may not socialize with you.  If you want to socialize with other teachers, try to smile and be more positive.  Keep the conversation light, ask them about themselves, what their favorite movies are, things like that.

Lupita, I think you are a very good person and you want to do the right thing, but you are blind to the mistakes that you make, like your negative attitude.  The world is not out to get you.  The world is not against you.  Although you do not like what I have written, I hope you will think about some of it.

I hope you stay on the board.  People obviously care about you and I care about you, otherwise, I would not have spent all this time writing to you.  I would like to see you change so that you could feel happier.  Life does not suck.  We all go through highs and lows, but it’s good to be alive.

Why don’t you spend some time thinking about where you want to work next year and investigating job opportunities?  Do you want to stay in the same city?  Move to another city or another state?  Teach a different grade?  Maybe you should start getting applications now so that you have plenty of time to apply for jobs?

Mucha buena suerte y mucho amor.