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Re: Struggle continues
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2007, 05:29:42 PM »
(((((Lupita)))))  If you have any time to look at the topic I started about friends, you will see I don't have it all together by any means. 

One of the things I used to like about being a smoker was hanging around with other people who shared the same weakness as me.  There is something really comforting and unpretentious about hanging around with people who admittedly have some area of being screwed up.  ;)

One thing that worries me is that the negatives seem to feed upon each other and some parts of your posts remind me greatly of when I was depressed.  When I was depressed, the more the negatives became prominent - I noticed them more, felt them more, remembered them more - the more it felt like sandpaper on an open wound to have people advise me, especially because I felt incapable of taking the advice.  I was in a place too 'down in the pit' to just be practical and say 'okay I will make a list of things to do and just quit being negative and enjoy life now.'   Does that sound right to you.  Is that where you are?

What helped me most at that time was well for one thing I went to therapy.  But the other thing that helped was seeking out comforting things all the time.  Comforting music, comforting sleep, comforting paintings, movies, walks, flowers, animals.  All the time.  Doing this made me feel safer and, well, comforted.  I needed that first before I felt like I could act.  It was healing.

I hope you stay too lupita.  Please don't go.  I think everyone means well but not everyone is able to express their hearts in a way that is the way you need to hear it.  It's like when we speak different languages and don't understand the other language too well, or at all.  Then the heart felt words are not heard. 
Character, which has nothing to do with intellect or skill, can evolve only by increasing our capacity to love, and to become lovable. - Joan Grant

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Re: Struggle continues
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2007, 06:21:03 PM »
Iphi, if I could push a button and feel positive, it would be wonderful. I cannot do that. Coming here to write is a major accomplishment and sometimes I get slapped in the face for being honest. I do not want to talk about your favorite movie here, or the weather, that is not the purpose of this board. So I am being honest. But it is impossible for me at 50 years old to just being told to be positive. I was punished for loving people, it was an insult to my mother to compliment somebody, she immediately told me that the only person I could love was her, that she is the only one that loves me and the only one that would give me a kidney and the only one I should like or love. All my life. Now, it is very difficult to feel well. Almost impossible. I am trying by coming here and using my time to write when sometimes I am afraid to be rejected and in fact I am rejected for saying how I FEEL. sorry I CANNOT FEEL the way people consider I should feel, I wish I could feel well, I wish I can take Ms. New Principal out of my thoughts, and the dirty smile I see in the teachers when they see me appear, and some of the students too. I wish I can take them away from my mind. I wish I could have peace. I wish somebody would hypnotize me and erase these hurtful thoughts of my mind. But coworkers and their dirty smile come back to my mind, the unfairness comes back to my mind, the envy I feel for those who are accepted comes back to my mind, the loneliness comes back.
I wish somebody helps me to dispute my irrational thoughts. But if I see the dirty smile is because there is a dirty smile. I am not imagining. Of course I could do with them is to turn my head away so I do not give them the pleasure to give me the look, because they are doing it in purpose, hypochristians, So, when we come back after thanks giving is that I am not going to give them the pleasure to give me the look. They give me the look because I look at them. If they see that my eyes are in a different direction and I totally ignore them they would have to find another victim to hurt. They do this to me because they know I am desperate for approval. They know that. And they are evil. But I will make a plan during this week of thanks giving so when we come back I will not look at them. So, their dirty look is wasted. I wont even notice how they looked at me. I am going to be so busy planning interesting classes that my mind will be out of them. They will see me running around making my copies and working hard, also they will hear the music that I sing with my students. I am going to start with Christmas music in Spanish and maybe in French too. Maybe a little in Russian too. When they hear my students singing in Russian they are going to have diarrhea for envy.
Also I am going to create phrases to say when they say something offensive to me. Also I am going to read a lot this week about thought changing.
I am going to lose weight this week. So they see me different and color my hair and have a hair cut. Will go to consignment stores and find new clothing.
Like lighter says one good feeling takes you to another good feeling. I have to ignore them, as they are naked. The new principal went to high school with the biology teacher, and with the Journalism teacher. That is why they are so good friends. I have accent, English is my second language, I am an immigrant and will never be part of the family. I was never part of my family. I was the escape goat of my family. It hurts so much. Plus the pastor wants my piano lessons for his beloved worship pianist leader Mr. M.
Also I would like to investigate the options to open a small business of latin food.
Why do you think they love bad teachers and reject hard workers? I will never know. I have to feel well even if they do not like me. Feeling well, it is something I have never experience in my entire life.

Observer, your first post was very b****ing, criticizing and judgmental, and the second is more human. Thank you for disputing my thoughts. I need reality checks. Some you are mistaken probably because you are not there and you do not know me like other members who know my story.  But many sound very reasonable. Hope that you keep writing to me and keep disputing my thoughts. That helps. I wish o was wrong. I wish they did not hate me. Probably they just dislike me. Hope that they will not damage me. I mean in reality. Like to make me lose my job or set me up in a trap. Hope that I am wrong. Hope that the new principal only wants for me not to bother her. If I do not bother her she will not bother me. I am going to try. I have to invent to be creative so students do not disrupt and I do not have to use her services. I my class runs perfectly she will not bother me. Problem is that whether she likes it or not I need her back up because teen agers are always trying to do something.  Teaching high school is very bad with out back up from the principal. But I will try and pray a lot.

I have said one million times, I have to survive the year. I will try to find something else during the summer. God will help.

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Re: Struggle continues
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2007, 07:19:58 PM »
Also, I need to find a way to counteract the pastor. He is corrupted. He is dirty. He has no compassion. he is a bad person. And he makes a lot of money. He makes more money than anyody in the church or the school. I do not know how to deffend my self from him other than doing a good job and ignoring the people that he is convincing to humilliate me. That pastor is as bad as Dr. U. But they love him. I cannot fight with Samson. He is Samson but he must have a way to cut his hair. Mayve I just have to put my slef in God's hands and trust Gid to help me. The pastor is too bad and too powerful. I just need to survive this year or that God open a window so I can escape.
You see? I am on one week brake and I am still obcessed with those people.
God has to help me. God will help me. God will help me. Please God do not abandone me. Do not let that pastor damage me. Please God, I am your child. You will help me dear Lord. Do not abandone me. Please. I need to rest. I need peace.

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Re: Struggle continues
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2007, 07:29:04 PM »
God will protect me from that pastor. It would not be the first time a pastor damages me. I kind of get sick when I think of pastors, This did not happen to me before. Hypochristians.

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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2007, 08:06:47 PM »
I apologize to you for being judgmental and critical.  But I am happy that you are going to start challenging irrational thinking.  I’d like to suggest a book which I found very helpful called “How to Stubbornly Refuse to Make Yourself Miserable about Anything: Yes Anything!” by Albert Ellis.  The title of the book, “How to Stubbornly Refuse to Make Yourself Miserable about Anything: Yes Anything!” is what I was attempting to say to you. 

Albert Ellis was the founder of rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT) and one of the techniques is challenging irrational thoughts.  I find REBT very helpful and I hope you will too.  Here is the link explaining REBT:  http://www.albertellisinstitute.org/aei/rebt_how_it_work_main.html.  When you are at this website, please click the “Ask Our Therapist” link.  There’s a question and answer there about someone who has problems at work and I think you could relate to it.

Mucha buena suerte  y mucho amor.


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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2007, 07:27:11 AM »
This goes directly to observer but if anybody can help I dearly appreciate it.

Help me discussing the sitution with the pastor. That does not let me sleep.

I deeply believe that the pastor .

My own question to my slef.

Why do you think that the pastor is against you?

1- he wanted the piano lessons ofr his beloved worship leader. Now it is not about the piano lessons by it self, but because I protested and asked for my piano lessons back, because I love them and because I really need the money. Could not survive with out that supplenet income.

2- When I complained about Dr. U the first thing he asked me was  "why dont you leave?"

3- He constantly puts me in the spot, gives me unwelcome hugs, in front of public, he wants to make other teachers envious or just notice my presence.

4- He put me in the spot calling Mr. V in front of all the church to stand with me when I became member of the church. He wanted to make sure that everybody notice that Mr. V had helped me.

5- Teachers give me dirty looks, ugly looks, they would not do that unless they know they are backed up. They must have been told that I am disposable.

6- Many people treat me in a hostile way. They know their obligation is to make me feel uncomfortable so I leave on my own.

7- Pastor cannot fire me on his own. Powerful people of the church (school board) have to aprove.

8- Pastor is damaging me little by little and braking my spirit through the secretaries and his pall teachers. Not all the teachers, only his palls. A few.

My own dispute my own refutation:

I am still there. They have not fired me. (They cant) They are just making me suffer. That i can survive. If they do not use the children against me I will survive. The problem is when they starty coachind the children. I t has happened to me in the past and I have seen it done to different teachers.

It is vacation now. One week brake ofr thanks giving. When they come back (pastor is on a trip) they will be rested and I will hide around so they cannot see me and they cannot make me feel bad.

I am still there.

Nobody comes to my classroom to mess up with me.

Nobody gets out of their way to bother me. They only bother when I am exposed by closeness.

They only hurt me if I look at them in the eyes.

So, I only have one and only one thing to disputes to the whole thing.

I still have a job. Thay are bad but they do not go out of their way. Only if I found them in my way.

So I can avoid them. I am not afriad to be isolated because I have been isolated my entire life.

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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2007, 07:49:31 AM »
Another good thing, I have less problems with the studnets. My problems with the students are minimum. Just the librarian's son and one other.

The elementary kids adore me and I adore them. And many of the high school kids like me and are nice to me.

I should think of an activity to encourage them and build closeness and build rlationship with the kids, like field trips or a Spanish festival, or something that they might enjoy.

I have to do something.

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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2007, 07:57:21 AM »
((((((((((((((((Lupita))))))))))))))))    Just keep sharing your feelings and thoughts. By doing that, you will get "clearer"   Love   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2007, 10:06:16 AM »
As much as I try tu refute my thought that the pastor does not want me there, the only reasonable thing I can come up with is that I am still there. I do not for how long, but I am still there. But everybody is hostile to me, not everybody but the most closest people to the pastor, English teacher, social studies teacher, K principal, new principa Ms. Vz, and her high school friends Jousnalist and science teachers.
I only have elementary teachers, middle school teachers nuetral. Three elementary teachers are good friends, specially one is very good friend. Two teachers is middle school are particularly nice, not  friends but they give me smiles that I so much need, the art teacher gives me smiles. IN the office, only one person is nice to me, only one. 
The most powerful of the teacher is Mr P bible teacher and youth minister. He is respectful to me but he is one of those who smiles in a dirty way when he is with a group and I walk by and they smile I believe in purpose, and look at me, in purpose. Of course I notice it because I look at the, but If I try not to look at them I will not see their dirty smiles.

I think the secret to survive there is not to look at the eyes of the people that I know they are hositle to me. Be out of their vision field, our of their sight.

Observer, where are you? Arent you goign to dispute my thoughts this weekend? This is important.

The book I am going to Barnes and Noble todat and buy it. Also another one form a different person ABCD same cognitive therapy basics.

But I need somebody to refute or idspute this beliefs with me.

Anybody would like to be the advocate of satan?  It has to be in a way to use Logic as a science with jusgement that are fact and not opinion. We cand o it if we know some logic statements. There are several kind of statements in Logic that can be used to discuss arguments that you are not familiar with. You do not have to be in the place where I work to discuss the validity of my ideas if you know a little logic. Some high schools and colleges give Logic.
Did any friend here studied logic?

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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2007, 10:59:48 AM »
Lupta...... I think the meanies are meanies, smile at you mean and make trouble for you, that's a fact, not irrational thought patterns.n  That's why Dr. U is out on his ass unemployed and you still have your job.

Their behavior isn't something you can't DO anything about.  There's no logical reason for people to tear other's down bc they think it makes them feel better about themselves..... I don't beleive it makes them feel better.

What can you do?

Hmmm....

1.  Not look them in the eye, ignore them like they don't bother you at all... you got over them and that's that, right?. 

You're idea btw.  Sounded reasonable bc my idea to stick your tongue out and cross your eyes wasn't nearly so good, darnit, lol. 

2. Just accept that the reality..... is the reality.  You don't have to figure everything out..... Accept that they don't know enough about you to even come up with enough reasons to act like unprofessional bigots..... that's what they are, you know?

3. Feel good about being a professional.  Feel good about handling your classes, children and piano lessons.  The fact that you're making money with those lessons shows you're a good business woman who can protect her boundaries when the Pastor asks you to make an innapropriate sacrafice, which you declined to do.  Brava and how in the world did you find that strength?  Good job, you can DO everything you need to get through this and keep from having your life turned upside down, so easily in the future, by mean little people who envy you. 

4. Feel good about having friends at the school..... I didn't realize you had so many people who smiled at you..... that you can talk to.   They're the ones you should save your eye contact for. 

Can you imagine how discouraging it will be for the meanies, to see you ignore them and act like they don't bother you at all?  I think that's taking your power back..... doing something that creates energy instead of destroys it...... very good idea, Lup.

5.  Have a wonderful Holiday..... Thanksgiving.   It sounds like you already started giving thanks..... it sounds like you're getting your emotions under control, and that's important.

Handling ourselves when we're in dark places is something we learn to do...... by doing it. 

What the meanies do isn't so important as how you handle it, right?

Go shopping, I really want you to have a new twirly red dance dress and a few great pieces for your winter work wardrobe.... mix and match and enjoy feeling better at work. 

Chat up the nice teachers when you get back to school. 

Good health, self care..... keep reaching out, research the comedas idea..... what were ya thinkin?  Marketing to small mom and pop stores or doing something on a larger scale?

I'd suggest dancing in class but then I remember you aren't teaching 5yo's, lol.. hee.  My girls take Spanish and they love to dance.

I wish teaching Salsa was easier than it appears to be :shock:  Talk about learning something exciting about a culture...... every party should have latin dancing!  Too bad so few know HOW to do it; )




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« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2007, 01:41:30 PM »
Well since nobody wants to dispute my thought that the pastor is against me, probably that means that whoever reads this, thinks that I am not that irational. He probably is against me.

It would noe be the first tima a pastor kicks me in the teeth. It would not be the ifrst time a pastor destroys me.

Just one more. Just one more.

Hope that God helps me to resist this year. Just that. To resist this year or find someting else. Let us see if god opens a window for me to escape or helps me to fix the problem at this school.

This is a step in stone in my life. I will make many decisions based on the outcome of this problem. I am in the hands of God and if he does not help me the, nobodu will.

I am on vacation I need to rest but I cant take pastor away from my mind.

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« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2007, 02:10:49 PM »
Hi Lupita-

Maybe this can help- if not, compost it! I was in a similar tenuous position at one time. My boss (highly connected!!!) was an outright crook and trying to force me to sign off on something fraudulent. When I wouldn't he tried to retaliate and set me up to lose my job. The secretaries clued me in and gave me a copy of his first memo- they took a LONG time to type it. I and a wise friend at work devised strategies to defeat it. Then the boss had to go away , we had a vacation, etc- time slipped away. When at long last it seemed that there was no escape and the crook was going to get his way, there was a natural disaster and I was transferred to a normal boss, there was no more office there and the crooked boss got a demotion to a position in the main office! God always makes a way of escape!

Lupita, I believe in YOU and your ability to handle everything! Just don't let those buzzards taint the sweetness of your life with their poison! Life is not a popularity contest, though working with jackals is easier if they aren't circling you. Keep the peace if you can. Find the happy things in your day and don't let the buzzards snatch them from you. Fill  your heart with real friends and loved ones- it is only a matter of luck if you find true soul mates at work- if people are civil, who gives a rat's hindquarters if they love or even like you?!?!?!

Most of all, when you are away from the wage -slave job, leave it there! You are free as a gypsy during your vacation! Dance, play the tambourine ( I love to play the tambourine!) and sing- those jackals will be far away!!!

Love and Peace,

Changing

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« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2007, 07:25:15 PM »
Hola Lupita,

I’m going to use the words “rational” and “irrational” in terms of Albert Ellis’s rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT).

The Pastor is a jerk and that is a fact.  You do not like the Pastor and that is a fact.  It is also a fact that you cannot change the Pastor.  It is also a fact that only the Pastor can change himself.  You have no control over the Pastor and that is a fact.  So, none of these facts are irrational, they are just facts and these facts exist whether or not we like them.  The only thing we can do about these facts is accept them.  We cannot change these facts even though we wish we could change these facts.  We wish that the Pastor was a nice and decent man who treated you kindly, but that is not reality.

So, recognizing a fact is not irrational.  The irrational thinking occurs when we react to fact fact in such a way that we hurt ourselves.  For example, you are thinking irrationally when you allow yourself to become so upset over the Pastor so that you cannot sleep at night.  So, your reaction to the Pastor is irrational. 

Think of it this way:  When we are confronted with a fact, we always choose (consciously or subconsciously) how we will react to that fact.  Lupita, you have chosen your reaction to the Pastor and the reaction you have chosen is to upset yourself and you have chosen to upset yourself so much so that you cannot sleep.  The reaction you have chosen is harmful to you because you are loosing sleep over the Pastor.

You could choose a different reaction to the Pastor.  For example, you could say to yourself “I do not like the Pastor, but I choose to not upset myself over him.  I accept the fact that the Pastor is a jerk.  I accept the fact that I do not like the Pastor.  I accept the fact that the Pastor doesn’t like me.  It’s a shame that I am not friends with the Pastor (and I probably never will be friends with him), but that is reality and I accept realty.  So, instead of upsetting myself over the Pastor, I will not think about him, nor will I think about how he dislikes me and I dislike him.  Instead, I will focus my thoughts on things that I enjoy and can help me, like dancing, music, looking for a new job, etc.”  This would be a rational reaction to the Pastor.  If you think this way, you won’t hurt yourself, you won’t loose sleep over the Pastor.

When you see the Pastor at school, you can give him a quick smile, maybe say a quick soft “hello” and then turn your head away from him, don’t look at him and keep walking away from him.  Minimize your interaction with him.  Since you find him upsetting, limit your contact with him.

You wrote the following:

Why do you think that the pastor is against you?
I think this question is almost irrelevant.  The fact is he does not like you for whatever reason he may have.  You cannot read the Pastor’s mind, so it’s a waste of time to try to figure this out.

1- he wanted the piano lessons ofr his beloved worship leader. Now it is not about the piano lessons by it self, but because I protested and asked for my piano lessons back, because I love them and because I really need the money. Could not survive with out that supplenet income.
I don’t understand what you’re saying here.


2- When I complained about Dr. U the first thing he asked me was  "why dont you leave?"
Don’t dwell on this.  What you learned here is that the Pastor is not your friend, so just keep that in mind and watch yourself around him.  Don't set yourself up to enable him to cause you to feel hurt.  Try to avoid him as much as you can, but don't act hostle to him.

3- He constantly puts me in the spot, gives me unwelcome hugs, in front of public, he wants to make other teachers envious or just notice my presence.
Good point:  DO NOT LET THE PASTOR HUG YOU.  Do not let him touch you.  Do not get physically close enough to him so that he can touch or hug you.  These are boundary issues and you must work on establishing both physical and emotional boundaries.  If he tries to hug you, step back and let him know that you do not want to be hugged.  If necessary, say to him “please do not touch/hug me”, but do not say it in a nasty way.  Just say it in a clam, assertive voice.

4- He put me in the spot calling Mr. V in front of all the church to stand with me when I became member of the church. He wanted to make sure that everybody notice that Mr. V had helped me.
This is in the past, so let it go.  Just keep in mind that he may want to hurt you, so try to avoid him.

5- Teachers give me dirty looks, ugly looks, they would not do that unless they know they are backed up. They must have been told that I am disposable.
If other people give you dirty looks, you can’t do anything about it.  I think the only thing you can do is do not look at the faces of the people who you know give you dirty looks OR do not choose to react to these dirty looks so that you feel extremely upset.  You know this is a toxic environment and you know that you will find a job in another school next year.  So, there’s no point in upsetting yourself because these jerks give you dirty looks.  They are idiots.  If you can find it in your heart, feel pity for them because they act like little children, not adults.  They are pathetic.  They have a problem, not you.

6- Many people treat me in a hostile way. They know their obligation is to make me feel uncomfortable so I leave on my own.
See my answer above.  But, I disagree that it is their “obligation”.  Rather, it is their choice.  They have CHOSEN to be hostle to you.  That is their choice.

7- Pastor cannot fire me on his own. Powerful people of the church (school board) have to aprove.

8- Pastor is damaging me little by little and braking my spirit through the secretaries and his pall teachers. Not all the teachers, only his palls. A few.
Regarding #8, this is where your thinking is irrational.  The Pastor can only damage you and break your spirit if you allow him to do so.  Remember, I wrote about you choosing how you want to react to the Pastor.  So, you have chosen a reaction in which you are allowing him to damage you and break your spirit.  You have chosen to give the Pastor the power to damage you and break your spirit.  This is the choice you have made.  You can change this choice right now and decide right now that the Pastor has NO POWER to damage you and break your spirit.  The choice is up to you. 

My own dispute my own refutation:

I am still there. They have not fired me. (They cant) They are just making me suffer.
No, you are making yourself suffer.  To think that other people make us suffer is irrational.  You have chosen to react to the entire situation by making yourself suffer.  That is your choice.  You could make other choices, like ignoring them or finding a different job, which you will do. 

It is vacation now. One week brake ofr thanks giving. When they come back (pastor is on a trip) they will be rested and I will hide around so they cannot see me and they cannot make me feel bad.
This is irrational thinking.  No, they do not make you feel bad.  You make yourself feel bad.  You have chosen to react to them by making yourself feel bad.

They only hurt me if I look at them in the eyes.
This is also irrational thinking.  You have chosen to allow them to hurt you very badly.  I'm not saying don't feel hurt, but I am saying don't let them make you feel so hurt that you allow them to destroy you.  It's a subtle difference.  So, do not look in their eyes.  Look at the ceiling, look at the floor, look in the distance.  Or, look them in the eyes, but choose to react to them by not feeling so hurt.  But, do not act hostile towards them.  Just be non-chalant. 

So I can avoid them. I am not afriad to be isolated because I have been isolated my entire life.
It's a good idea to avoid people who you find upsetting.  Bring a book to lunch and read so that you don’t have to talk to anyone, but don’t be hostile.  If anyone makes a comment, just say you really want to read your book because it is so interesting. 

Hope this helped.  The important idea is that you choose how you want to react to people.  I'm not saying that you should ignore your feelings.  No, you should allow yourself to feel your feelings, but do not allow your feelings to OVERWHELM you so that you feel damaged, broken or destoyed.

Con mucho amor.


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Re: Struggle continues
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2007, 12:28:05 AM »
Hi Lupita,
I haven't read this whole thread but maybe I can help with one thing I noticed. I think it's a big thing, or the shadow of a big thing. I hope it helps.
I believe one reason you get in trouble interpersonally is that you make a lot of assumptions about other people's thoughts and motives. Self-help literature calls it mind-reading.
It's really bad for relationships of all kinds.

Your intuition matters too, and often you may be completely right about negativity in others. But I'll bet if you weeded out the habit of telling yourself that you know what another person is thinking ... people wouild seem much less threatening to you. I'll highlight the things below that I think fall into this pattern.

This goes directly to observer but if anybody can help I dearly appreciate it.

Help me discussing the sitution with the pastor. That does not let me sleep.

I deeply believe that the pastor .

My own question to my slef.

Why do you think that the pastor is against you?

1- he wanted the piano lessons ofr his beloved worship leader. Now it is not about the piano lessons by it self, but because I protested and asked for my piano lessons back, because I love them and because I really need the money. Could not survive with out that supplenet income.

2- When I complained about Dr. U the first thing he asked me was  "why dont you leave?"

3- He constantly puts me in the spot, gives me unwelcome hugs, in front of public, he wants to make other teachers envious or just notice my presence.

4- He put me in the spot calling Mr. V in front of all the church to stand with me when I became member of the church. He wanted to make sure that everybody notice that Mr. V had helped me.

5- Teachers give me dirty looks, ugly looks, they would not do that unless they know they are backed up. They must have been told that I am disposable.

6- Many people treat me in a hostile way. They know their obligation is to make me feel uncomfortable so I leave on my own.

7- Pastor cannot fire me on his own. Powerful people of the church (school board) have to aprove.

8- Pastor is damaging me little by little and braking my spirit through the secretaries and his pall teachers. Not all the teachers, only his palls. A few.

My own dispute my own refutation:

I am still there. They have not fired me. (They cant) They are just making me suffer. That i can survive. If they do not use the children against me I will survive. The problem is when they starty coachind the children. I t has happened to me in the past and I have seen it done to different teachers.

It is vacation now. One week brake ofr thanks giving. When they come back (pastor is on a trip) they will be rested and I will hide around so they cannot see me and they cannot make me feel bad.

I am still there.

Nobody comes to my classroom to mess up with me.

Nobody gets out of their way to bother me. They only bother when I am exposed by closeness.

They only hurt me if I look at them in the eyes.

So, I only have one and only one thing to disputes to the whole thing.

I still have a job. Thay are bad but they do not go out of their way. Only if I found them in my way.

So I can avoid them. I am not afriad to be isolated because I have been isolated my entire life.

I think you spend a lot of mental energy imagining what you think another person is thinking. You assume their thoughts.

You may be RIGHT about some people's motives. But the human mind and a human life are very very complex. So I challenge you to try to take people at face value. Assume that you know only what is direct, open, clearly stated. Not what they are thinking, not what they want, not what they believe.

Even if you might be right because of intuition, or accurate assessment in part, just try to say to yourself, I don't know what they are thinking. I am making it up.
See if it helps!

xo,
Hops
"That'll do, pig, that'll do."

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Re: Struggle continues
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2007, 11:01:17 AM »
Dear Lupita,
  As I heal ,I see that assumptions that I made of others were often TOTALLY wrong. For example, as I get closer to my F, I see that I assumed that i was 'not important" to him b/c he did not stand up for me against my M.
  Actually, he was "blocking" out life b/c of his upbringing.
  I took it as I was not "important"
  Also, I used to call him every afternoon when I would wait fo my sons at the bus stop. He had the 'attitude" that I was "bothering him" so I stopped.
  Now, I find out that he simply did not have access to his feelings and it has nothing to do with me. He has been going to Al Anon for 13 years and now can talk about feelings.It had nothing to do with me-----ever.
  I think that we do "mind read" too much.      Love to you    Ami

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Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung