Our Shadow Side

[Ami]

Thank you so much Carolyn and Leah. I have so much guilt and shame from my M .It makes it hard to get the '"simplicity " of the Bible in my heart. .
  It makes it hard to really believe that I am "righteousness" b/c of what God has done. I keep feeling that maybe what my M said was true, even though I KNOW, the Bible is true.
 It is like having 'cult brainwashing". Down deep, you were told s/thing so many times that it "feels" true with your heart. I will take to heart everything you both said . Thanks so very much.   Ami


(((((((((((Leah, Carolyn))))))))))))))

[Leah]

In reading this, please remember that the born again disciple of Jesus has received a new spirit and is to walk by the Holy Spirit, and not by the flesh.

But, the born again disciple can walk in the flesh, in rebellion or disobedience, or what ever.

Else, how come some born agains do some dreadful things.

My exNH for one.

Leah


PS >  Please don't feel the need to apologize to me for joining in the discussion, as you are more than welcome, Carolyn      No medals.

Thank you, Leah
It is easy for me to try to answer all the questions all at once and really become a buttinski, so... I was trying to keep pace.
This is an area of passionate interest for me, so I get really into it.

Yes, we must never forget the deadliness of sin and recognize that a repeated falling away into sinful lifestyles (emphasis on lifestyles, not the occasional slip) can lead to a seriously hardened heart which may refuse to heed the warnings/convictions/guidings of the Holy Spirit.

Carolyn

P.S.  My ex husband, npd, claimed to be a born again believer. I never saw a single sign of that, though.

Carolyn,

Yes, as we have discussed, I have been a born again believer and follower, with the exact same passion as yourself, for many years now.

Leah

[Lupita]

OK, I guess I am no longer included in this conversation. And it is not your fault if what I say is not interesting.
So, have a great night.
God bless you.

[Ami]

Lupita,
 YOU are included. I was trying to figure out what you meant ,was all.Could you explain further?             Ami

[Leah]

Thank you ((( Ami )))

It was a real blessing to my heart to be able to freely share of our faith in Christ Jesus.

In my own words, without fear and trembling.

God Bless and Guide You.

Love, Leah

[Ami]

Thank you,Leah. I have to let go of the N brainwashing which "feels' normal and take on what the Bible says which "feels' abnormal. That is why it is so hard. What you were brainwashed with,as a child "feels' true.
 I have much to think about. Thank you again for your time and care, Carolyn,Leah and Lupita             Ami

[Ami]

Dear Carolyn,
  I think that I just got my answer---REFRAME---all of it--all the N garbage about who I am. Reframe what I think about WHO I am. I was told that I was "bad" .I had to be the blank slate that carried all my M's shame, bad feelings and pain. I am still carrying it, to this day.
       Ami

[Ami]

Are you on the right thread,Izzy(lol)?                  Ami

[Ami]

I think what it comes down to is the saying "Train up a child in the way he will go and he will not depart from it." WHEN ,you are trained by N's,it is hard to "depart' from that. It SEEMS  true ,even though if you believe the Bible, it is not true.
 Getting the Bible teaching to seem "normal" and the N teaching to seem "abnormal" must  be the key. Thank you for helping me,
 Carolyn, Leah, Lupita,and Bella. I feel more at peace------much more!       Love    Ami

[Certain Hope]

Dear Ami,

Meditating on God's Word is the most wonderful way to plant it in your mind... and from there it can take deeper root in your heart as you step forward in faith on that foundation.

Psalm 139 is just one passage which is so loaded with absolutely beautiful confirmations...
I bet if you spend 30 days reading that and meditating on it, you would experience dramatic changes.

Here are just a few verses from this psalm:

O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
  You know when I sit down and when I rise up; You understand my thought from afar. 
  You scrutinize my path and my lying down, And are intimately acquainted with all my ways. 
  Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O Lord, You know it all. 

For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother's womb. 
 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
 Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well. 

And Ami, please focus on verses 17-18, as follows... these simply amazed me when I first realized what they actually say!!

How precious also are Your thoughts to me, O God! How vast is the sum of them! 
  If I should count them, they would outnumber the sand. When I awake, I am still with You. 

Imagine that... God has so many precious thoughts toward you, Ami... more than the grains of sand in this world. 

As one of my favorite Bible teachers said (and this really shocked the old religious me)... if God carried a wallet, your photograph would be in it;  and if God had a refrigerator, your artwork would be on it!

OK, I am done now. 

Love to you,
Carolyn

[Izzy_*now*]

Are you on the right thread,Izzy(lol)?                  Ami

Ami

Did you type this twice?

I deleted from one thread and now I know

Dopamine, mentioned in Lupita's long posts, is also known as L-DOPA. It is used for Parkinson's Disease.

Those men in Rehab with me with Parkinson's revealed to everyone an increased interest in sex, again.

Then all the guys were wanting it!

FYI-only

Izzy

[Ami]

Thank you Carolyn--so very much.         Ami

[Ami]

Thank you, dear Friends---Bella, Leah, Carolyn, Lupita
   I feel better,today. I am needing to integrate new ways of thinking and to replace what I learned from my N mother. I have to throw the 'garbage" out.
 It is a process. It helps to open my thinking to others and allow their ideas access to my head.
 I feel more centered, today. Thank you.       Love    Ami