How the board is the same

[reallyME]

Daily Mail: I also didn't feel an urge to preach about what was wrong and what people needed to do to save themselves, I didn't need to convince others I was right in order to save myself from annihilation,

Your words above are what made me type what I said...made we wonder if I really should leave this place, assuming Dr G doesn't boot me off before I choose to leave on my own that is. 

I'm not saying I don't need to learn anything from others here, because every new topic that is posted is of some interest to me...

I'm just tired of people subtly scapegoating me and nobody acknowledging that they did that, or, if they do acknowledge it in one moment, they change their mind the next and then, when I say "hey KNOCK IT OFF.  Make up your mind if you are for or against me" then, "I" owe the apology?  I don't think so.  Something is very wacky and "off" about that.

I have even copied the quotes of people who have victimized me from this group, and still I'm told that I owe the apology.  That is just twisted and wrong.

So, on that basis, I'd possibly choose to take the exit door.

By the way, this is why you will often hear people say "I'm sorry that you felt I attacked you, but I didn't."  What if the person totally perceived your intentions wrong...does it then make you sound "narcissistic" for not saying "I'm sorry I HURT YOU" when you actually did NOT?

ANother thing to ponder.  I cannot give an apology that is not sincere.

~Laura

~Laura

[DailyMail]

I'm confused.  I wrote about me and how my behaviours were alienating others or at the very last creating discomfort for them...and how that changed as I started going through the healing process.

I'm still unclear how that has created a desire in you to want to leave.

You sound like you expect others to apologize to you for turning on you (even though I see some saying they haven't done that) and I see others saying they'd like you to consider making an apology for hurting a member who left (even though I see you saying you didn't mean it the way it was said or taken by her).

So you wouldnt feel genuine in saying "That's not what my words meant, but I believe you that they hurt you, and I'm sorry"?

[reallyME]

DailyMail, there is no such thing as a narcissist who is respectful, unless he/she wants something from you.  Again, N's can NOT love and can NOT be genuine.  They are no more a true version of a "human" than a piece of paper or an object of some kind, a doll maybe.

A narcissist is a selfish brat who will use any means overt or covert to get what he/she wants.  If "acting" kind by imitation of kind folks around him/her, will get them your help in doing some dastardly deed, they will be the kindest being on the planet, but only till they get sick of you, have what they are aiming for, and/or find the next supply source/helper to let them achieve their goals.

N's are not "nice people in disguise"  They are wounded, betrayed, angry, sometimes downright EVIL people who never learned what "nice" and "Love" were.

As I've said many times, only GOD can change a narcissist's heart of stone to a heart of flesh.

~Laura

[DailyMail]

I'm feeling a little embarassed now, I apologize.  I came here VERY LATE and don't know the players.  Are you saying you're a narcissist?  In that case I am very sorry, I mistook what was happening.  I'm finding this very confusing but I reread your post a few times and I hope I got what you're saying now.  I certainly don't intend to step on anyone's toes.

If that is the case then of course you would find it difficult and painful.  And my support in doing so would just make it MORE difficult and MORE painful for you.  And since it has nothing to do with me, I feel badly that I made anything more painful for anyone.

Namaste

[Leah]

(((((( DailyMail )))))))

[Leah]

DailyMail, there is no such thing as a narcissist who is respectful, unless he/she wants something from you.  Again, N's can NOT love and can NOT be genuine.  They are no more a true version of a "human" than a piece of paper or an object of some kind, a doll maybe.

A narcissist is a selfish brat who will use any means overt or covert to get what he/she wants.  If "acting" kind by imitation of kind folks around him/her, will get them your help in doing some dastardly deed, they will be the kindest being on the planet, but only till they get sick of you, have what they are aiming for, and/or find the next supply source/helper to let them achieve their goals.

N's are not "nice people in disguise"  They are wounded, betrayed, angry, sometimes downright EVIL people who never learned what "nice" and "Love" were.

As I've said many times, only GOD can change a narcissist's heart of stone to a heart of flesh.

~Laura

The God I know, love , serve, is a God of love, peace, grace and mercy.

[reallyME]

No

[Overcomer]

That is my God too Leah.

[DailyMail]

is that "no" directed at me or someone else?

I'm getting ever more confused.

[reallyME]

No, I'm not a narcissist, Daily Mail and I was not saying that I was.  i"m a person who does not apologize to abusive people.

[reallyME]

I read the post this morning from someone to someone, where they said something about how the "ladies probably were too caught up in their own little world..."  I simply thought about "own little world" and posed the question based on it.

My nets are just fine, thanks...cause they are HIS nets.

~Laura

[DailyMail]

ReallyME, you said:
No, I'm not a narcissist, Daily Mail and I was not saying that I was.  i"m a person who does not apologize to abusive people.

OK, I believe you.  Would you be willing to help me understand how we got off on talking about that from where we were?

RM said:

Your words above are what made me type what I said...made we wonder if I really should leave this place, assuming Dr G doesn't boot me off before I choose to leave on my own that is. 

I said:

I wrote about me and how my behaviours were alienating others or at the very last creating discomfort for them...and how that changed as I started going through the healing process.

I'm still unclear how that has created a desire in you to want to leave.

RM said:

DailyMail, there is no such thing as a narcissist who is respectful, unless he/she wants something from you. 

I am starting to feel like I am being tedious,, and I don't mean to be,  but I get very confused communicating with you and am trying to "hang in there" until I get what you're saying.

[reallyME]

Daily, the best way to take what I say is "literally"

I have been considering whether this board is something I want to continue to pursue, first of all

Secondly, no, I'm not a narcissist...been tested psychologically several times for it and it has been negative every time.

I'm not sure what exactly it is you are wanting to understand.  Basically, your post gave me some things to think about so I am.

[DailyMail]

I guess what I find confusing is the disjointedness between what you are saying, and what others (including me) are saying in response.  I want to take you at your word but I don't get how you make the jump from one thing to another.  It's as though there are parts of your train of thought that aren't visible in your posts, and they seem to be important parts that would let me know how and where your head/heart are going because you really do take some very sharp turns and I have found myself wondering a few times "how did we get here?"

It's not that I don't believe you, I just don't follow you some of the time.

Is that clearer?

[reallyME]

yes it is.  I'm so glad you pointed out the "disjointed" word.  Perhaps my train of thought has veered off on an odd track.  I'm going to have to be slower about my postings or something.

I really try to stay on topic, but in the past, people have often said that I can't seem to do that.  I'm wondering if perhaps that's what is happening.  I need to keep my posts shorter if so.  Thank you for pointing that out.