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Hopalong

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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 08:16:32 PM »
Ditto, ToWrite...
and ditto, Ann's question to you, Ami.

It has to come out.

You will survive.

I am so sorry.

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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2008, 08:25:18 PM »
You would not believe what just happened . There is a doctor ,whom my H knows. He was driving and hydroplaned. His D was in the passenger seat and died. He AND she ,had a near death experience where they went to Heaven. She went in to the gate,but he was told that he must come back and finish his life.
 He KNOWS that his D is fine and happy. He has no fear of death. He descrbed Heaven to me(at the gate) and walking toward it.
 His whole life has changed b/c he has no fear of death.
 I had a very,very hard day and I feel at peace,now.
 Boy, today was the day that I really needed to talk to him and I "knew" before I called that he would be home and available and he was. God is good to provide for me when I am "at the end"  emotionally.
  I wanted to share that with you .You have been such dear, dear friends to me. Thank you so ,very much.     Love   Ami
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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2008, 08:33:47 PM »
Ami, I am so sorry for your loss and for the pain you are going through now as you grieve.

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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2008, 10:32:34 PM »





Dear Ami,

I see how people could die form a broken heart or die after a loved one does(as spouses s/times do).

And pets, Ami, who go to the grave of their master and just sit there. 

I don't think the process can be manipulated or hurried.  It can be denied though and sandbagged.  That is where the danger of getting stuck lies.  It is very important to recognize the manifestations of it as it unfolds.  There were times when I would go to bed at one stage of grief (where I might have dwelt for months) and wake up in another.  Recognizing these stages and acknowledging that I was making progress was IMO very important.  I have to confess that sometimes I felt guilt at having made progress, how dare I move forward in the healing process!

Ami, there is life after tragedy.  It won't be as you invisioned it, but it can be meaningful and rich in spite of the tragedy.

My love to you,

tt   

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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2008, 10:59:46 PM »
Ami,

Another shock!  And the doctor was on your mind.  So sorry to hear about his daughter.  Was the father hurt?

Would you please share what the doctor said about the gate and heaven?  What does the gate look like?  Is St. Peter at the gate?  Did he follow the light?  I would love to hear what he said?

Sorry so many questions.  I don't mean to pressure you.  Anything you want to share, or not, is fine.

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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2008, 07:35:04 AM »
Dear Hops, TT, Flowerpower, and Ann,
 Thank you so much for your posts. It really gives me so much comfort that you are there.I have 3D friends ,but it is hard to impose on them when they have their own lives and troubles.
 Ann,it is not an imposition to ask for the details of the doctor's story. *I *would ask the same thing.
 The car crashed. He went above his body and looked down and saw his body. He AND the D walked on a beautiful,green ,lush ,vibrant path toward heaven. They walked, did not fly etc.
 I think there were beautiful sounds, too.He said that it was very "earthlike" not cloud like.
They walked to a gate. The D went in and it closed to  him. He said ,"No, I don't want to go to the other place." He was afraid. A voice filled with the most incredible love said,"You must go back and finish your life."
 The D was on the other side of the gate waving to him WITH 2 people he did not know,When he regained consciousness, he told his wife about the 2 people(described them), and  she started crying. It was HER grandparents ,whom he never knew ,so did not recognize.
  The doctor left his practice which he did not like and started a new  practice.
   His other D told him, 'Dad ,what would we have done without you,". He realized that he did have a "job" on the earth.
  He is not afraid if death or life. He says that only one thing matters----belief in  Jesus as the way to God.
 WHAT a story,Ann.
I could hear the joy in the man's voice. He "knows"b/c he has been there.
 I did not call him until that night, and that night he was home and could talk,just when I really needed it, so that was a wonderful gift for me.
 He is so NOT a "nut", so credible.            Love   Ami
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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2008, 09:01:42 AM »
I feel exactly like I did after I had a C section(with Scott). That was a "shock"(physical one), and I guess the emotional shock of his death is the same thing, to the body ,as the physical shock of surgery. Getting over the C section took time, quite a bit, and I must be patient with this, too.                       Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2008, 09:22:15 AM »
(((((((((((Ami)))))))))))) I'm trusting and believing that God will continue to hold you in His loving arms today and meet all of your needs in Christ Jesus. In my own sufferings and losses, which are minor in comparison, the fact that this life is but a vapor is a great comfort. It will all be worth it in the end... it really will.

Love,
Carolyn

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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2008, 09:54:09 AM »
((((((((((Carolyn))))))))))))
I just had another 'funny" thing happen to me, The doctor in my above post just called me ",by accident". He had my number in his cell phone. I was able to ask him if he had this exhaustion and depressionm too, even though he "knew" his D was OK. He said, "Yes. he did."He said it was physiological.
 I felt better.                     Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2008, 10:22:12 AM »
Ami,
Thank you so much for describing the doctor's experience.  It's so funny because when people who have near death experiences tell their stories, we know that there is an after life, yet we still grieve.  If only we, the survivors, could realize that we will see our loved ones soon enough on the other side. so why should we grieve and suffer simply because they are not physically with us for a "brief" period while we are "alive" on earth?  yet we still grieve, I guess because grief is a normal response.  But, we can also feel joy because we know that the soul survives.

Maybe these encounters with the doctor are a message to you that your son is doing fine and he is ok.  FRom what I've read and heard, this is also an irony because our loved ones on the other side are doing fine, they are with God, but it is us who are not doing fine, because we miss them, we have regrets and we must adjust to life without our loved ones physically being with us.

Ami, this life is a journey of learning, learning lessons and I think some questions we need to ask ourselves are:  What are the lessons I'm learning in my life? 

I hope the doctor has brought you some peace and comfort and thank you for telling me about the afterlife.

annie


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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2008, 10:28:51 AM »
The doctor left his practice which he did not like and started a new  practice.
   His other D told him, 'Dad ,what would we have done without you,". He realized that he did have a "job" on the earth.
  He is not afraid if death or life. He says that only one thing matters----belief in  Jesus as the way to God.
 
I could hear the joy in the man's voice. He "knows"b/c he has been there.


Ami,
I think these are the lessons that the doctor learned after his experience.  He changed his life, he saw he had a "job" on earth, his belief in God was re-affirmed and he found joy.

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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2008, 12:20:38 PM »





Hi Ami,

There is a little book available at Amazon or Christian book stores called, Within Heavens' Gate.  A dear friend gave it to me.  Though we have no way of knowing if the book is a true account, I found great comfort in it.  It describes a woman's account of going to heaven while in a coma.  The coma lasted a couple of weeks.  Her time in heaven lasted  a year or so.  So according to her, heavenly time is not like earth time.  God is completely other

One of the things she describes in it is picking two kinds of fruit from the same tree.  She said it was the most delectable thing she had ever tasted.  The juice from the fruit ran down her chin and upper arms as she ate it.  But when she finished it there was no sign of the juice on her chin and arms.  She says that in heaven there is no waste of any kind.  She describes quite a few stories in it...some I'd never thought of.  You'll see!

tt




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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2008, 12:26:11 PM »
Thanks TT. I am going to get it, today. the doctor mentioned that he read a book about heaven ,which described it perfectly. I wonder if that was it. When ,I talk to him, again, I will ask.   Love you, TT,      Ami
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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2008, 05:21:16 AM »
Ami, hi, xxxx

Papillon here,

I just realized that this is you and these posts are your posts  too. Oh Ami, I'm so so incredibly sad with you about the loss of your child. I know I have absolutely no idea of what you've gone through, mainly because I haven't been there myself. I only know that my most exreme levels of pain don't and can't in any way possibly compare to your loss. I really wish you peace and as many happy memories of your beloved as possible. My heart is truly with you.

Papillon



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Re: Coming out of "shock"
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2008, 07:10:31 AM »
Papillion, What beautiful words. I think that you have an understanding of the human condition. Are you a writer? Thank you so much,friend!           Love   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung