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Lupita

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« on: April 12, 2008, 09:22:11 AM »

Not been posting or reding. I am tired,
feel apathetic, lazy to read, lazy to write, I do not understand my
surroundings.
The pastor of the church in the school where I work, was fired. He is
going on May and not coming back, and his "pretty baby" the pianist
of the church, is also going.

Coincidentally, immediately after that happened, all my problems came
to a stop. All the harrassement of other teachers and coworkers,
stopped.

That happened after a few days I complained about that with the
school accountant who is the most powerful person in that church.

I am very confused.  I am down right now. Flat. But give thanks to God for being flat,
I dont want to feel sad.

I am very lonely.

Love to you all.

Lupita

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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2008, 09:31:25 AM »
I do not understand the world. Life is overwhelming to me.
I do not undestand people. I do not understand the why of behaviors of people. I thought a guy liked me and he did not. I thought a person hated me and he did not. I never know what is going on.

I feel isolated.

Does anybody relates to this??????????????????????????????  AM I THE ONLY  ONE????????????????????

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2008, 09:55:59 AM »
(((((((((((((Lupita))))))))))))

sorry you're having a lonely weekend, Lup...I know how that feels.

But I'm glad to know the harrassment has stopped.

As to understanding people...I don't expect human consistency or predictability any more.
I think trying to reason through affection that's later withdrawn has always failed me.

It's all about becoming grounded in yourself, so other people's illogic or inconsistency doesn't ruin your happiness in life.

(I'm working on it too.)

love,
Hops
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2008, 10:06:15 AM »
lup-Be glad the harassment has stopped.  Sometimes I think changing our surroundings.  I am looking to leave so I can have peace.
Kelly

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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2008, 10:12:31 AM »
Awwww, Lupita.

I'm so sorry you're not feeling relief and energy now that the harrassment seems to have ended, at least for a time.

Makes sense that all that bad energy was being generated by a couple of people and I had no idea you talked to the school accountant but it sounds like it really shook things up in the direction of peace and justice?

That's how I read it, anyway.  

I think the feelings of apathy and no energy from you is frustration and anger you're turning onto yourself bc you are so overwhelmed and unsure what to do....... what to feel.

Please, stop being so hard on yourself.

Be kind and talk to yourself with gently.  Accept that you're confused and try to view this through Mud or Hop's eyes...... gain some emotional distance.  Perhaps you'll gain some perspective?

That should go a long way in clarifying your feelings.  

Maybe journal yourself out of this funk?

(((Lupita)))  You're worthy of decent treatment.  That you're now receiving it should bring some relief and serenity.  

Lighter

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2008, 10:14:18 AM »
I am glad that it stopped. But why? Did the pastor had something to do with it? Why would he? I never did anything to him!!!!!

I AM DISLEXIC ON READING PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND?

OR LIKE HOPS SAY, IT IS JUST TO FEEL GOOD WITH YOUR SELF.

Hop, thank so much for your kind response.

At the end, God was taking care of me. I did not know. So, who cares the why. Who cares. The important thing is that I am doing fine now.

I am fine.

But dislexic about the world. Confused. Not new. I have been confused since the they I was born.

We know it is beause the way I was treated by my mother. Never knowing if what I did was wrong or good, compensated for bad things, punished for good things and viceversa.

But the CDs work. I feel better than last year and better than six months ago and better than yesterday.

Hey hops, listen to CD by Dyer, Change your toughts change your life. Good stuff.

Thanks OC for answering me and Thanks Hops for your kinds words.

Hops, you are always supportive to everyone here.


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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2008, 10:18:04 AM »
Liighter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Love you girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please tell me how you have been doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tyhanks for your thoughtful answer, despite that you are being shaken by a turmoil of suffering in your own life, you still take time to think about others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lighter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2008, 10:23:11 AM »
I've had lots of lovely time with my girls..... they've been on spring break all week..... so feeling pretty level today.

I have a bumpy week coming up..... I'll need you guys.

I hope this season of calm is lasting for you, maybe a pretty new journal is just what Lupita needs to get clarify and internalize her feelings?

Sure helps me to write things out then go back and read them a couple times.

Lighter


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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2008, 01:07:46 PM »
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know this cry from the soul Lupita.  Oh I know it well.  I have twisted myself in knots trying to understand why some people do the things they do.

As to the why … I believe they are broken.  I am coming to believe, that in some ways we are all broken (there are just degrees to the brokeness).

I’ve also asked myself why is it so important that I understand?  I think, for me, it is because I have innate compassion for people (something that not everyone has it seems).  In understanding why, I might be able to help them, or perhaps it becomes easier to accept the behavior and maybe it won't hurt so much when I “turn the other cheek” and get slapped again.   

The problem is, my cheek is on fire. 

I’ve come to the conclusion that I can accept that people (including and especially me) have quirks and make mistakes and that is ok .... so long as they don’t repeatedly, without remorse, injure me or mine (my family and those I consider friends) in the process (my line in the sand).

As a very, very wise person here has said (thank you Lighter) ….

When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

Took me quite awhile to internalize what Lighter was saying – but FINALLY, I understand.  ::rolling eyes at myself::

If an injury occurs – due to my ineptitude, theirs, or both of ours, I am always willing to try and work it out.  With reasonable people, this can be done.  With unreasonable people (and they will tell you who they are over time), this can’t be done – and the only thing in that case that can be done, IME, is to walk away…. 

So when an unreasonable person unequivocally tells you who they are….
….trust yourself
….don’t waste any more time trying to figure them out
….don’t waste time trying to negotiate with them
….don’t try to help them
….don’t try to warn others about them in a vain attempt to protect the innocent
….and above all, don’t internalize their brokenness


As we all know - to try and do any of the above is utterly futile, and will most likely backfire and get you injured.  They are where they want to be, and there is no trying to negotiate with them – they are sitting comfortably on their little perches made of rotten wood.  The only thing you can do, is make sure that the rottenness of their perches doesn’t spread and infect you …

If you must stay in an environment with them, treat them courteously and with compassion for their brokeness, but also make sure you have your armor on that allows none of their brokeness to enter you. 

I do feel compassion for people like these, but I won’t allow them to hurt me or mine anymore.

Sad.  But it is what it is, and we deserve a life without abusive behavior directed at us (on edit:  I define abusive here as repeated, deliberate harm).  Been there, done that (as in try to understand), and have certainly had enough of it.  We can't control others, we can only control ourselves.

As always, love you Lupe,
Peace
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2008, 06:23:49 PM »
Oh Finding peace, your answeres are always so nice and so kind!!!! I wish I had you here and give you a hug and have a huge cup of coffee, almond coffee, with soy milk and splenda, and a talk to you all night.

Thank you for taking the time.

It seems that we have so much in common!

And you are right! Abuse is abuse. There is professional abuse.

God will help me to find another job.

Thank you so much, and God bless you!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2008, 01:50:00 PM »
Hey Lupita,

I would love that cuppa!!!

How is work going - last I heard (I am having trouble keeping up with the board), people were treating you better?

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2008, 02:18:01 PM »
Boy, that coffee sounds GOOD!

Sending you new hopes for a new job, Lupita...

xo
Hops
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2008, 07:34:11 PM »
Lupe..... how's work and what's the weather like in your neck of the woods?

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 09:20:35 AM »
Bad. But I am so tired of not being understood that I do not even want to talk about it. Feel isolated. The good thing is that I do not feel as desperate as I used to feel at the  beginning of this year. I have more trust that God will take me where I am supposed to be.
Thank you Finding Peace and Lighter for having the iniciative to ask me. It is hard to find people who care. Thank you Hopalong for following Finding Peace and Lighter. It is hard to find people who care. Thank you for asking.
I know that somebody will say that I do not reach out, but I do not feel well. I cannot reach out. When in an airplane there is a decompressure, the oxigen masks fall in from the ceiling. But they say that you have to breath first before you can help your child or somebody else. I cant breath right now.
I am tired of being unwelcome, no matter what I do, I am tired of being croticized, no matter what I do.
If anybody wants to critizice me and be condescendent, it is OK i will not answer them. So, if you critizice me and I do not answer do not feel ignored. I am not ignoring, I am choosing not to answer a critic.
Thank you Lighter and Finding Peace because you always show you care for me.

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2008, 10:27:09 AM »
I hope you feel better, Lupita.

Sometimes it takes longer to shake off a low time....

to move through it.

I do think about you and how you might be doing.

How your son is and what's going on between you.

When you're ready to give an update..... we'll be here.

Lighter