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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #150 on: June 21, 2008, 01:05:50 PM »
Perhaps my welcome to oops didn't show up. 
Kudos hops,  I really agree and weldome the content/context in the opening of this, your thread.  Nogadge

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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #151 on: June 21, 2008, 01:11:45 PM »


(((((((((((( Everyone )))))))))))))


~ Threads of A Friendship ~


Threads of A Friendship That Will Never Break:

Thank you for the laughter, for the good times we share.
Thanks for always listening, for trying to be fair.
Thank you for the comfort, when things are going bad.
Thank you for the shoulder to cry on when I'm sad.
This gift is a reminder that all my lifetime through,
I will be thanking heaven for a special friend like you.



I have only just discovered this today, and thought it most apt.

And heartfelt too.

Love to ALL

Leah x
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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #152 on: June 21, 2008, 07:50:19 PM »
I haven't read this entire thread, just the first posts and a few others.  But I'll gladly chime in, and say why I was one of those who came through briefly and left fairly quickly: I came in during one of the former explosions (if you will), and had to ask myself: Do you really have this kind of time?  To me, at that time, the bullying, deliberately (and I do believe many were deliberately) counterproductive posts simply overwhelmed the positive, thoughtful, meaningful ones.  Conflict occurs at many levels, every day.  I deal with it constantly.  Addressing it productively gives a real feeling of accomplishment.  But name calling isn't adult-level conflict, it's schoolyard bullying.   One cannot use reason with a zealot, not matter what their cause, and especially if their cause is harming someone they believe they hate, or defending themselves against a slight, insult, etc., real or simply perceived.  I do not believe the people here are so wounded they cannot stand to hear honest constructive criticism.  I think sometimes it's just easier, especially in a society where such behavior is often valued, to lash out rather than step back.

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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #153 on: June 21, 2008, 09:13:06 PM »
I haven't read this entire thread, just the first posts and a few others.  But I'll gladly chime in, and say why I was one of those who came through briefly and left fairly quickly: I came in during one of the former explosions (if you will), and had to ask myself: Do you really have this kind of time?  To me, at that time, the bullying, deliberately (and I do believe many were deliberately) counterproductive posts simply overwhelmed the positive, thoughtful, meaningful ones.  Conflict occurs at many levels, every day.  I deal with it constantly.  Addressing it productively gives a real feeling of accomplishment.  But name calling isn't adult-level conflict, it's schoolyard bullying.   One cannot use reason with a zealot, not matter what their cause, and especially if their cause is harming someone they believe they hate, or defending themselves against a slight, insult, etc., real or simply perceived.   I do not believe the people here are so wounded they cannot stand to hear honest constructive criticism.  I think sometimes it's just easier, especially in a society where such behavior is often valued, to lash out rather than step back.


I'm sorry, gjazz:

To whom are you referring to as bullies and to who are you referring to as a zealot?

Respectfully asking for clarifification.

Lighter

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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #154 on: June 21, 2008, 10:51:34 PM »
I refer to patterns of behavior, not individuals.  Bullying, which I think we all understand.  Zealotry, as in fanatical partisanship.  My post is intended to explain my decision to use caution when participating on this board.

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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #155 on: June 21, 2008, 11:31:14 PM »
Hi gjazz,

So happy to see your post & glad to hear from you.  How are you doing?

I agree with you 10000%.  I can't stand the bullying or childish behavior either.

Paraphrasing Winston Churchill, lately (IMO) an iron curtain of censorship has descended on the board and so one must choose one's words with due deliberation, which, to me, is contrary to finding one's voice.  So, I totally agree with you that one must use caution when participating on this board. 

Despite it all, hope you'll post again.  There's a lot of good stuff here,too.

love,
ann

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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #156 on: June 21, 2008, 11:33:21 PM »
There IS a thread where people talked about THE particular bullying behavior, which can be brought up for people to see, if need be, Gjazz.     Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #157 on: June 21, 2008, 11:41:36 PM »
At the time I was on the board more regularly--six weeks, a month ago, maybe more?--I responded to specific messages I thought were hurtful, directly.  So there's not need to bring all that up again.  To my mind, maybe the thing is to concentrate our individual attention to issues/situations we can be helpful to someone, and step back where we can't. 

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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #158 on: June 21, 2008, 11:43:37 PM »
Yes, you have a point Gjazz. There is a time to fight and a time to refrain from fighting(Ecclesiastes)       Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #159 on: June 22, 2008, 03:25:32 PM »
Ann3:

I'm doing well, thanks.  I was sorry to hear about the friction on the board (via a PM) and decided to post my reasons for pulling back some weeks ago.  Hope you are doing well, too, and that this thread can help move things in a positive direction.

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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #160 on: June 22, 2008, 04:08:06 PM »



Edit:   deleted as it may be misunderstood.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2008, 04:36:32 PM by LeahsRainbow »
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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #161 on: June 22, 2008, 05:00:43 PM »


This may be on interest, or not, however, I have just read this brief guideline to finding a healthy message board/forum community:

Before joining a group, consider spending a few hours looking back through the group's archives.

That should give you a good feel for the way members are treated. Then ask yourself:


   Is the group generally happy and supportive?

   Does the group give off a good vibe?

   Are newcomers welcomed warmly,  or snapped at for asking boring 'newbie' questions?

   Is there an in-group cliche? 

   Do you see members sitting outside an in-group?   

   Is there a sense of freedom in speech? 
   
   Does the site appear to be biased?

   Is anyone criticising the quality or flow of information provided by the group?

   Is anyone openly challenging the integrity of the group itself?

   Is there a high turnover of members?

   If yes, can you see any obvious and worrying reason for this?
   
   Is there a sense of harmony or disharmony among members?

   Do most of the members seem the kind of people you'd be happy chatting with?


Well, having deleted it (as above #160)  here I am reposting, as a braveheart!  And every good intention.

Nothing of a personal note to add to the information provided for perusal. 

Love, Leah

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Meta-Discussion
« Reply #162 on: June 22, 2008, 06:08:06 PM »

Finally, I have this stored in my favorites, from February'08  --   may or may not be heloful, again, posted with genuine good intention for the purpose of a Healthy Community.      Leah x


What is meta-discussion?

You eagerly start reading a discussion supposedly about a subject of great interest to you, only to find that instead of being about the named subject, the discussion is full of posts arguing about how to discuss, what posts should be allowed on the forum, the attributes of a particular poster, complaints about others' posts and complaints about the discussion. Your heart sinks.   You search in vain for any on-topic posts, then give up and never bother returning to that forum or discussion again.

That is meta-discussion, and it ruins many a good discussion. For that reason, more and more discussion forum owners are asking posters to avoid meta-discussion.

Let me explain why:

Meta-discussion is second-order discussion: discussion about the discussion – for instance, about its style, its participants, the forum in which it takes place, and so on – instead of about on-topic matters.

by Sarah Fitz-Claridge   




Imagine a discussion forum whose subject is the book Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand. Here are the possible kinds of discussion:      http://www.fitz-claridge.com/node/18
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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #163 on: June 22, 2008, 06:34:56 PM »
Good to hear from you, gjazz.  Hope you'll return to posting.

(((((((((Leah)))))))))))

love,
ann

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Re: Healthy community
« Reply #164 on: June 22, 2008, 06:37:39 PM »
Dear Ann
 I wish you would return to posting, too. I was talking to SS,today and she wants to get back .We were having real healing. We can get back. Why not?       Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung