is narcissism a disease or evil?

[Anonymous]

Hark.....I hear the wailing of old wimmen.

[Lizbeth]

This is about the most exhausting thread I have read yet.

[Q's juke joint]

Ahhh, I haven't posted in at least 2 blue moons. But to the unitiated, s or Somebody (same person) came on this here board a while ago to say her sis, her dad, her kids and basically all God's chillen were Ns....and oh btw she is empathic because she's married to a registered sex offender.

Personally, I don't read s or somebody. No credibility to me. She couldn't get why people didn't focus on her N issues. But if ya see a long post by GUEST, ya might want to see who signs before readin' the ramblins of a person who cares more for sex offender H than her daughters. Can't figure why we have a problem with her......Hmmmm.

Q

[Anonymous]

Right, "Q"--- or why people keep responding. Just feeds into her.

[tigerlily]

Sorry- forgot to log in again.

[Anonymous]

That’s an inflammatory post Q. But it raises the issue of what some of us know about Somebody.

So S, what to do? Your initial thread contained some inflammatory ideas for a board which includes victims of child sexual abuse/incest. What did you think would happen? Maybe you just didn’t realise the sensitivities here.

But how you move on, without being continually harassed, I don’t know. Some of us, it seems, won’t let it go, for good reasons. Maybe that original issue – even the original thread – has to be thrashed out.

Just a suggestion. If you think it’s relevant, maybe you could consider it S. I wonder what others think of the suggestion.

[Anonymous]

Greetings,

Well, I suppose it is a subject worthy of being thrashed, torn apart, chewed upon, etc.  Most people come here for support, relief, understanding, advise, etc.

But I'll take a shot at the original post from the person who couldn't understand why her children couldn't why their mother would choose to forgive and stick with a person who abused them, paid his debt, etc.

My observation is that this poster is akin to wandering into a rape victim's support group and asking them to support her for supporting a "reformed" rapist.  When she doesn't get the support, she accuses them of being judgmental, less than empathic, and tries to take the high road of being more understanding (a competitive remark) than the rest of us.  

OK.  Poster, you are right.  We don't understand why you would ask us to support an abuser.  Or more accurately, support your support of an abuser.  We don't understand your need to tell your kids the "truth" etc.  If you really loved them, you would let them go and discover the truth on their own and keep the door open for them to come back on their own terms.  Versus trying to control outcomes.

My two cents.  Anonymous for now.  

[Anonymous]

thrashed out - my meaning = debated, resolved

[IMO]

Somebody has come to a board owned by a psychologist that exists for support and healing purposes.  Since she has been here, she has insisted that many members of this board are lacking because we don't believe in harboring child molesters.  Now she has attacked the field of psychology which is the basis of many members' healing through therapists, books and this board.  Is she really seeking support or is she seeking to inflame?  She says that she is judged unfairly here, but I think that based on the information she has provided there is nothing unfair about most judgements members are making (imo).

[longtimelurker]

to somebody or s

Hi Somebody,

As you know they did the same thing to me 'pick,pick,pick'. Round and round we go....

my decision was not to engage and go off and leave everyone to it. I am wondering why you persist.
As we both know, it's like bangning your head against a wall. Who wants more and more invalidation?
 I can see what you're saying and it is exactly like being 'N'-ed. But you are being bullied and verbally abused, similar to me.
Alright it's an internet board and feelings and intent of meaning can be lost easily.
Unfortunately you have been labelled and anything you do say will be interpretated in those terms...
you can't win, why are you still playing?

I don't mean to get your hackles up, Somebody, but I am curious, as we went through a similar thing a ways back. It seems we both made different decisions about it, that's all and was just wondering.

[Lizbeth]

Yep, I knew that, I find everything posted is aimed at pushing a certain agenda, which I have noticed because I have bothered to read everything.  Trying to understand this is the reason why I am exhausted.

Ahhh, I haven't posted in at least 2 blue moons. But to the unitiated, s or Somebody (same person) came on this here board a while ago to say her sis, her dad, her kids and basically all God's chillen were Ns....and oh btw she is empathic because she's married to a registered sex offender.

Personally, I don't read s or somebody. No credibility to me. She couldn't get why people didn't focus on her N issues. But if ya see a long post by GUEST, ya might want to see who signs before readin' the ramblins of a person who cares more for sex offender H than her daughters. Can't figure why we have a problem with her......Hmmmm.

Q

[Lizbeth]

thrashed out - my meaning = debated, resolved

I'd still like to point out, as well, Pedophiles often target single mothers for their children.  The relationship a woman has with a man who sees her child as an object for his sexual gratification, whether or not he was able to follow up on that, may in fact, be entirely based upon his sick desire for her children and nothing more.  The entire marriage is a sham from the very first hello.  And yes, this is EVIL.

[got that right]

Lizbeth,

You are so right on. I saw you post this before about targeting the single mom with daughters and I had been thinking the same.

I personally don't see what there is to thrash out. And I do see Somebody pushing an agenda as well. And whoever said she is here for supply is right too.

And Bunny.....you just keep reading psychology and offering your gems because they are valuable. Thank you.

I wish as well that somebody would stick to her word. She just doesn't belong here, it's not a matter of people harrassing her. She's not coming here for healing imo.

[Lizbeth]

Sometimes people who make a bad decision can't accept the rebukes they receive for their decsions, so they go round and round looking for someone, anyone, to allow them to justify their actions.  They also look to blame others for the reactions they are getting for the decisions they have made.   Then there are the pity parties and the word salad and the effort to avoid the real subject.  None of that is part of healing.  To heal you have to accept what you have done and live with it or do something REAL to change it.  You can't continue to live in denial and expect to heal.

Lizbeth,

You are so right on. I saw you post this before about targeting the single mom with daughters and I had been thinking the same.

I personally don't see what there is to thrash out. And I do see Somebody pushing an agenda as well. And whoever said she is here for supply is right too.

And Bunny.....you just keep reading psychology and offering your gems because they are valuable. Thank you.

I wish as well that somebody would stick to her word. She just doesn't belong here, it's not a matter of people harrassing her. She's not coming here for healing imo.

[Anonymous]

So what does 'the board' want to say to/ask Somebody when she comes back on Monday, as she indicated?

Does the board want her banned?

Does the board want to ask her questions?

What to do.....? and why?