is narcissism a disease or evil?

[Anonymous]

Long time lurker, when you said:

you can't win, why are you still playing?

is that a turn of phrase or are you saying it is actually a game? Like the question though. Why is s still here. Good question.

[got that right]

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 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:04 pm    Post subject:    

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So what does 'the board' want to say to/ask Somebody when she comes back on Monday, as she indicated?

Does the board want her banned?

Does the board want to ask her questions?

What to do.....? and why?
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I have no questions. I would like to come here for healing and not have this character here, but what can be done. Anything? She has been shunned by the non cyber world, so I guess she is looking for friends or something. It would be sad if she wasn't so resolute in pushing an obvious agenda.

[Anonymous]

Quote - I would like to come here for healing and not have this character here, but what can be done. Anything?

Ideas anyone?

[Anonymous]

Perhaps there is a more suitable forum for Somebody.  The following link is to a website that includes forums for families of sex offenders and some members seem to share her point of view.  

http://www.sexcriminals.com/forums/

[Anonymous]

Just remind her that the empress has no clothes on...

It's very telling that S or somebody hangs around still trying to get the board to conform to her reality, still complaining that the kids don't have the 'truth', loftily informing us of our deficiencies while she is on her way to healing ("I am SO more healed than you") etc.  

As they said in Monty Python & the holy Grail, "Never mind who's killing who!  this is supposed to be a happy occasion!"  (This is my favorite movie expression of denial.)

She's kind of funny really.  It's like she insists on walking into the men's room and telling the guys they are in the wrong place.  What WILL she do next?  Stay tuned until Monday...she's so important we will wait with bated breath.  Come on, girl, don't disappoint us now!!

 

[Anonymous]

IMO, s/Somebody seems to be taking Energy away from those of us who are trying to reason with her, and it is also frustrating for those of us who are reading the futile exchanges.  We usually try to help one another through the rough times in our lives, and we share positive energy with one another, not negative.  My feeling is that these mental gymnastics with 's' are not productive, here.  It almost feels like a "N" in sheep's clothing.

[bunny]

My feeling is that these mental gymnastics with 's' are not productive, here.  It almost feels like a "N" in sheep's clothing.

It isn't productive. She is just an agitator and a past master at provoking arguments. It's useless- futile - fuhgeddaboudit.  People can get sucked into engaging against their better judgment (I have). Hopefully they'll get themselves out of it, too.

bunny

[Lizbeth]

I don't feel comfortable or right asking anyone not to participate but I also don't feel this poster is going to get any better of a reception than she has and the members are going to continue to be tortured by her attempts to explain how bad we all are because we can't forget about the BIG FREAKING ELEPHANT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM.   To me it's a rediculous farce and her posts since then really disturb me in their content.

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 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:04 pm    Post subject:    

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So what does 'the board' want to say to/ask Somebody when she comes back on Monday, as she indicated?

Does the board want her banned?

Does the board want to ask her questions?

What to do.....? and why?
____________________________________________________________
I have no questions. I would like to come here for healing and not have this character here, but what can be done. Anything? She has been shunned by the non cyber world, so I guess she is looking for friends or something. It would be sad if she wasn't so resolute in pushing an obvious agenda.

[Lizbeth]

This is all quite N behavior, which, of course, will infuriate her yet again, but I'm sorry, it's true.    Whether or not she's an N, this is how they behave.  That, and all the freaking word salad and the "have a great weekend' at the end of it.  

Just remind her that the empress has no clothes on...

It's very telling that S or somebody hangs around still trying to get the board to conform to her reality, still complaining that the kids don't have the 'truth', loftily informing us of our deficiencies while she is on her way to healing ("I am SO more healed than you") etc.  

As they said in Monty Python & the holy Grail, "Never mind who's killing who!  this is supposed to be a happy occasion!"  (This is my favorite movie expression of denial.)

She's kind of funny really.  It's like she insists on walking into the men's room and telling the guys they are in the wrong place.  What WILL she do next?  Stay tuned until Monday...she's so important we will wait with bated breath.  Come on, girl, don't disappoint us now!!

 

[Trollspotter]

We can’t kick “S” off even if we want to.

It is clear that “S” is provocative and disruptive.
Engaging in conversation with “S” only leads to is tying oneselves up in knots – and I believe  “S”  intends that.

S is hard to ignore when she comes mewing back like some innocent little kitten. Yet, any kindness offered gets upturned, all in the name of “S”  ‘right’ to respond.
What you get is  a kick in the teeth for your effort.

Isn’t this what we’ve encountered throughout our lives living with N’s? “S”  can’t be addressed in any way, because “S”  doesn’t want to be addressed.

Collectively here is something we can do, and it can be done with a sense of community:

Whenever “S”  posts, whoever sees the post first, post right after with the username "Troll" (you will have to log out first); that will alert anyone from the Voicelessness menu,  that “S”  has been spotted, and replied to . Write only  N/T ( no text) in the dialogue box. That way we are purposely ignoring her, but also  being proactive about it. There will be satisfaction in  giving a reply that can’t be responded to. That yes, the message is  acknowledged, but we aren’t interested anymore. "S" has to get the message that she has worn out her welcome- many times.

If we stick together on this, we can make our point.

And for any bleeding hearts, (of which club I belong ), consider that we are doing her a favor. If she gets it, she can find a board elsewhere and start over. If she doesn’t that’s her problem. We can’t fix that.

[Lizbeth]

Dear Trollspotter:

I gather, even as a self-confessed bleeding heart, you don't consider S someone you would  or should bleed over?  Just want to be clear on that because you have me a bit confused with that statement.

I'm usually pretty soft hearted myself, but there are limits.

Lizbeth

We can’t kick “S” off even if we want to.

It is clear that “S” is provocative and disruptive.
Engaging in conversation with “S” only leads to is tying oneselves up in knots – and I believe  “S”  intends that.

S is hard to ignore when she comes mewing back like some innocent little kitten. Yet, any kindness offered gets upturned, all in the name of “S”  ‘right’ to respond.
What you get is  a kick in the teeth for your effort.

Isn’t this what we’ve encountered throughout our lives living with N’s? “S”  can’t be addressed in any way, because “S”  doesn’t want to be addressed.

Collectively here is something we can do, and it can be done with a sense of community:

Whenever “S”  posts, whoever sees the post first, post right after with the username "Troll" (you will have to log out first); that will alert anyone from the Voicelessness menu,  that “S”  has been spotted, and replied to . Write only  N/T ( no text) in the dialogue box. That way we are purposely ignoring her, but also  being proactive about it. There will be satisfaction in  giving a reply that can’t be responded to. That yes, the message is  acknowledged, but we aren’t interested anymore. "S" has to get the message that she has worn out her welcome- many times.

If we stick together on this, we can make our point.

And for any bleeding hearts, (of which club I belong ), consider that we are doing her a favor. If she gets it, she can find a board elsewhere and start over. If she doesn’t that’s her problem. We can’t fix that.

[Trollspotter]

Dear Trollspotter:

I gather, even as a self-confessed bleeding heart, you don't consider S someone you would  or should bleed over?  Just want to be clear on that because you have me a bit confused with that statement.

I'm usually pretty soft hearted myself, but there are limits.

Lizbeth

 I  do not feel sorry for this person.

[Lizbeth]

Thanks for clarifying that.  I will surely consider what you said, you made a very good suggestion.  

Dear Trollspotter:

I gather, even as a self-confessed bleeding heart, you don't consider S someone you would  or should bleed over?  Just want to be clear on that because you have me a bit confused with that statement.

I'm usually pretty soft hearted myself, but there are limits.

Lizbeth

 I  do not feel sorry for this person.

[Anonymous]

Many of us have been negatively affected one way or another, already, by the words of 's'.  I speak for myself, as I am sort of shaky right now, just by the energy we are wasting because of 's'.  Many of us are sensitive, and something like this is upsetting.

It might be cooincidence, but this is the sort of thing that got another 's' removed from a site on N - then, within the week, we began to receive confrontational and angry input by  's'.
Here is the other link, for what it's worth - maybe, maybe not, but suspicious, nonetheless.
I'd hate to see our wonderful group be damaged, and broken apart, as was this other site.  

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AdultsRecoveringFrom-NarcissiticParents/message/22572

[Lizbeth]

Can you please cut and post the message, it won't let me see it without joining Yahoo and I don't care to join.

Thanks, if that is possible.

Many of us have been negatively affected one way or another, already, by the words of 's'.  I speak for myself, as I am sort of shaky right now, just by the energy we are wasting because of 's'.  Many of us are sensitive, and something like this is upsetting.

It might be cooincidence, but this is the sort of thing that got another 's' removed from a site on N - then, within the week, we began to receive confrontational and angry input by  's'.
Here is the other link, for what it's worth - maybe, maybe not, but suspicious, nonetheless.
I'd hate to see our wonderful group be damaged, and broken apart, as was this other site.  

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AdultsRecoveringFrom-NarcissiticParents/message/22572