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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival => Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board => Topic started by: October on October 21, 2005, 01:35:23 PM
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Here are the highlights of a missive, which Dr Evil has sent to my GP, and copied to me. Needless to say, I have forwarded this to the complaints department, and asked for it to be included alongside my complaint. It is full of lies. Anyone here recognise me from this description????
"October was clearly agitated and angry today. She remains convinced that she needs long-term psychotherapeutic intervention. She does not need psychiatric input as she remains reluctant to start any psychotropic medication. She became verbally abusive towards me as she was clearly not happy with my various suggestions. I had to terminate the interview today due to her inappropriate and rude behaviour. We noted that October has had extensive psychotherapeutic interventions in the past. She has also had previous aggressive outbursts. Our Trust remains a zero tolerance policy - any form of abuse, verbal or otherwise. I plan to report this incident to Trust managers. In the meantime, October will need to be re-assessed by the Complex Therapy Service as to whether or not she would benefit from further psychotherapy.
With regards to her mental state today there were no clear signs of depression, anxiety or psychosis. However, it was extremely difficult to establish any sort of therapeutic relationship today. She was wilfully confrontational and aggressive towards me, resulting in unacceptable verbal abuse."
In case anyone is wondering, the 'unacceptable verbal abuse' was to say 'Go to hell' to his almost closed door, with him one side of it and me the other, after he had kicked me out of his office. And I meant it, and I would say it again, if faced with such an unfeeling b*stard as this.
I have never ever had any other aggressive outbursts with any doctor whatever. Diane said that I am very bad at expressing my anger, and that I internalise it.
Rather shocked at being kicked when I am down, and by a doctor. Shouldn't be, but am. :shock:
In response I have written to my GP to tell him about the complaint I have made.
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what a dweeby icky dirty little man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How horrible. I do not know what to say. Just don't take it out on yourself!!!!!!! (((October))))))
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Thanks, Bloopsy. I am struggling against this new 'reality' of myself as an angry, abusive, aggressive person. I have to find the real person who is me, but all I can see is this projection that he has made onto me, and which if I am ever angry about anything ever suddenly becomes true.
Very confused. Very hurt.
However, pretending to be a cork in the sea, until this particular storm passes.
From Trauma and Recovery:
In order to escape accountability, the perpetrator does everything in his power to promote forgetting. Secrecy and silence are the perpetrators first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of the victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that noone listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalisation. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies; it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought it upon herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on. The more powerful the perpetrator, the greater is his prerogative to name and define reality, and the more completely his arguments prevail.
This is what is happening to me. And what I expect to continue. Using these words as a straw to clutch onto, to retain my grasp of reality. :?
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That man is a psychotherapist? I have never heard of a therapist talking in that way-- he seems to have no clue what therapy is. He just sounds like an angry man using psychological language. What drug exactly is he talking about? Is there some drug that he thinks keeps people from being angry, and is he actually recommending such a drug?
I am so sorry you are having such trouble finding qualified psychologists. This guy doesn't seem useful at all and I am sorry you ever met him.
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Hi, I felt it necessary to relay a personal experience of mine. I am currently in the early stages of divorcing my husband of 20 years. We had been to individual and couples therapy for 6 years. The majority of the therapistss thought my husband was wonderful, and I can't tell you the level of frustration I had when he would blatantly lie during sessions. It is what I call selective memory. He remembers what ever paints him in a favorable light. Most therapists picked sides, never mine. I would be beside myself during these meetings, which I can understand why October appears as she did to Dr. Evil. It's all about frustration and being tired of going over the same topics with nothing getting better or improving. When my husband slipped up with two therapists and showed his true colors, he quit. He was up for it when I would get blasted week after week. I was so miserable and actually felt my husband was trying to push me into committing suicide. The main point is that mental health professionals can and are fooled by narcissists. I have been reading books and doing research on the subject and nothing diecribes my husband more accurately than the Narcisistic Personality Disorder (NPD). Why our joint therapists bought into his act is disappointing and alarming to me. They did more harm than good. My individual therapist is the person who foung the answers, helped me out and kept me sane. If you aren't happy with your therapist....keep trying!
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(((October))) you are not an abusive person. You have been hurt and it seems like you are willing to speak up for yourself, and that makes people very uncomfortable.
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October,
I am so sorry you are having to endure this. It sounds to me like he's trying to cover up his unprofessional treatment of you. I'm glad you're speaking up. He almost certainly has treated others this way, too.
To dlk,
I had the same experience with a marriage counselor. XH refused to go back to the one who saw the situation accurately, so he picked out a different one. We saw her a few times, then once after we divorced and XH wanted to "attempt reconciliation". At that session, she pushed me to keep talking about how terrible I was feeling about what XH had done, then criticized me for getting upset and told me I needed to learn how to communicate better. By then, I'm crying, and XH is sitting there calm, cool, and collected, and telling the therapist he was "baffled" at the depths of my feeling. It was devastating. What helped, in a perverse way, was that he admitted to infidelity he had hidden from me after the appointment. So, he was pretending to be the innocent husband in front of the counselor and watched me melt down, while all the time he knew that he really had been unfaithful. That was it for me. I've never regretted divorcing him since.
XH and I were married for 23 years, so I empathize with what you are going through.
Gail
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Hi October,
I'd say it was good that you got your letter off to the complaint department before he sent his. It would indicate that your letter was not in reaction to his, but rather, his letter was in reaction to your complaint. That puts him on the defensive. Now that he's painted you as aggressive, he will seize any opportunity to help push you into that state of aggressiveness to lend veracity to his account. Beware. I'm hoping that the line in the letter which states that you will need to be "re-evaluated" will be the opportunity you've been waiting for: a new doctor, a new diagnosis and a chance to feel healthy again.
Last, but not least, hopefully this action will put Dr. Evil on notice that his behavior will not be tolerated, not even by the most vulnerable amongst us. I would guess that he will be much more careful with his words and actions because of what you've done October. Most people wouldn't be willing to put forth the effort to go up against the evils of the world. Thank you for your courage.
CeeMee
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October:
Our Trust remains a zero tolerance policy - any form of abuse, verbal or otherwise. I plan to report this incident to Trust managers. In the meantime, October will need to be re-assessed by the Complex Therapy Service as to whether or not she would benefit from further psychotherapy.
October, NO, I DONT RECOGNIZE YOU IN THIS DESCRIPTION. It makes me angry and frustrated too, at what you have to go through. Oh lord, what a horror this profession is! No wonder you had thought about giving all this up and going solo. How hurtful all this must be to you, and to take on the system on yoru own. Just don't let them get you down.
dk, your experience sounds really painful and damaging. Hugs to you.
Marta
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Thanks for all your support. I really appreciate it, and I am sorry for other experiences which resonate with this one. (((((hugs to all)))))
I spoke to a friend yesterday, who is connected with the Health Service, and she says as CeeMee does, that putting in a complaint about me after I have put one in about him will not look good for this doctor. If he had a complaint, he should have registered it the day of the appointment, not several days later, after I have made clear that I am complaining about him.
She also said that procedurally, knowing that I am making a complaint, he is out of order in sending me a copy of this letter. He should not have any contact whatever with me, and that this letter looks like bullying and intimidatory behaviour on his part. That is certainly the effect.
I have today received a copy of a letter from Dr B, the one who was offering group therapy to the new psychiatrist and to my GP. He backs up Diane's recommendations for out of area therapy, and will support the recommendation for funding. He says both she and I worked hard, and that it was working.
He makes no mention of my being aggressive or verbally abusive (because I am not). He says the therapy was working, but that I need more, and that because there is no more to be had locally this needs to be sourced out of area.
Which should help me.
If in the end the funding is not available, I will not be surprised. But Dr Evil didn't even try. He just wanted me off his hands. :?
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It's obvious that Doctor is trying to cover his ass. He is clearly out of line here as he has to stretch the truth in order to justify his response. What a disgusting, horrible, insensitive, selfish man. Don't second guess yourself- don't give the incident any more of your energy, He's not worth it. I think it's good that you complained though. If he is that kind of person, then maybe he will have more than one complaint, if not now, then maybe in the future.
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Hi October,
I have met loads of psychiatrists like this. they are extremely arrogant and know nothing, but the one thing that they ALL have in common is that they love to push drugs down peoples throats like they are going out of fashion. Big hugs to you October for standing up to him and saying NO alot of people haven't got the strength to do that and end up in a stupourous state. What the hell do you need psychotropics for anyway you are not bloody psychotic...!!!!!!
There is one good point that I took from that letter though. Despite all his protestations he is saying that you need further assessment. this is his acknowledgement that you do need help and it will certainly be read that wy by other professionals.
Hang on in there October. I am well impressed that you stood up to him. That's why he is quoting the zero tolerance policy.... he's not used to it. If I had a ound for every client who had lost their temper with me I'd be loaded, but to me it means that clients spirit is alive and kicking...
Spyralle xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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If I had a pound for every client who had lost their temper with me I'd be loaded, but to me it means that clients spirit is alive and kicking...
Spyralle xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks Spyralle. That is a good point; I hadn't noticed it before. Part of me is still alive and kicking. :)
Actually, I didn't lose my temper at all. I was very, very angry, but I didn't lose it. If I had, he would have had reason to complain straight away, no messing!! The predominant emotions for me were not anger, but fear and humiliation.
Selkie
Thanks for your comments. You are right that he is very insensitive. He also has issues of his own which are impinging on his professionalism, and which he needs to get resolved. Hopefully, if I am taken seriously, that will happen.
Now moving on and trying to think of other things. Not easy.
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Hi October,
I agree with what others have said here. Don't worry about his claims about you. You define you, not his reactionary comments. Not at all. Don't waste another moment on it. There is something else that bothers me about his comments (yeah, like there isn't enough on the surface already!)
"October was clearly agitated and angry today. She remains convinced that she needs long-term psychotherapeutic intervention. She does not need psychiatric input as she remains reluctant to start any psychotropic medication. She became verbally abusive towards me as she was clearly not happy with my various suggestions.
Even IF all this were true... Gee, an agitated and angry therapy client. :shock: Does this guy have any clue what he's supposed to be doing? At all? Even a tiny bit? Then he goes on to say that you don't need therapy because you are reluctant to take meds. Does he have any inkling that that is your decision and your right (as long as you are not insane AND dangerous to yourself or others)? Also, a verbally abusive patient. Did he skip class on the days that his classes and training talked about the BLATANTLY OBVIOUS: clients will be in extreme pain, distress, discomfort, and have not learned how to interact successfully with others yet, so THAT IS WHY THEY ARE COMING TO GET HELP FROM *YOU*!
In the meantime, October will need to be re-assessed by the Complex Therapy Service as to whether or not she would benefit from further psychotherapy.
Do you think he realizes that this contradicts his earlier pronouncement of absolute judgement on you in the first paragraph?
With regards to her mental state today there were no clear signs of depression, anxiety or psychosis. However, it was extremely difficult to establish any sort of therapeutic relationship today. She was wilfully confrontational and aggressive towards me, resulting in unacceptable verbal abuse."
Did he also miss ALL lectures on setting boundaries, protecting himself, professional detachment, and dealing with clients who lash out verbally? Even if what he said was true? The hole gets deeper.
If I were this person's boss, or in charge of his review, I would note that this person does not seem to have any idea of WHAT his job is, let alone any clue HOW to do his job. Though his words are phrased as an attack on you, ALL they do is admit that he is not competant and at the very least needs training to fill the gaping holes in his abilities. How much do you want to bet that this person was one who chose to NOT take therapy themselves while in training to give it?
I often wish I had mud's ability to poke holes in these people with a few hilarious words. Instead I just get all steamed up about it. It's wrong and I feel mad. I'm sorry that you have to deal with/aroudn this person, October. It is hard enough when you are getting help and support in these situations. No one needs to behave in ways that just make it harder. Keep advocating for yourself and trusting the outcome will be what you need.
((((((((((((((October))))))))))))))))
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If I were this person's boss, or in charge of his review, I would note that this person does not seem to have any idea of WHAT his job is, let alone any clue HOW to do his job. Though his words are phrased as an attack on you, ALL they do is admit that he is not competant and at the very least needs training to fill the gaping holes in his abilities. How much do you want to bet that this person was one who chose to NOT take therapy themselves while in training to give it?
Thank you so much for your sensible comments, Longtire. It is so difficult for me to be objective about this - I find myself falling into believing that Dr I is right, and that all he says means that I deserve nothing at all. But of course that is the hole in his argument, as you rightly point out. All that he complains of indicates that I am not well, and need further help.
He says that I should be assessed again by Complex Needs. What he still has not grasped is that there is no longer any such thing, in effect. My therapist who left was the complex needs provision; the position is currently vacant and there is nobody there to carry out a further assessment. And what would be the point when the one he has is being totally disregarded? So his rather circular and illogical thinking makes no sense whatever.
Either I need help or I don't. If I do, then the Trust has an obligation to meet that need out of town if it cannot meet it internally. Either way it is not his money, and it is not his job to obstruct the process of referral.
Thanks for helping with this. (((((hugs)))))
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Hey now!
Hi October!!! You know, when things are just so out of touch with reality, I laugh from the sheer nervousness it stirs up in me. Like, "are you for real Dr. Evil? " If you can dress like him, you'll have the scariest costume for Halloween!
Like the posts above, I saw the contradictions of what this idiot was saying immediately. I hope any rational person reviewing this does too. I think you rattled him so bad, he dashed off a really stupid CYA letter. I mean, talk about Catch-22!!! :shock: "The woman is so out of hand, she doesn't need therapy, she needs to be re-evaluated by a dept that doesn't exist anymore for therapy that isn't working". So very helpful. Not.
This is really beyond the pale. I hope he gets canned. But most important, I hope you get the resources you were going for in the first place. What an achievement it will be. And by what you relay above, it sounds like you have two sane professionals and an ombudsperson in your corner. You go, girl!!
Hugs and more hugs, MP
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Thanks MP. :D
It is now ten days since I sent my letter of complaint. The Trust promises I will receive a written acknowledgment within two days. Nothing whatever. So I rang up today to ask whether they have the complaint. I was promised a phone call back to let me know.
Then I waited for the call. Then I got very distraught and upset.
So then I printed the whole lot off again, and put it into my bag to hand deliver tomorrow, if I hear nothing meanwhile.
Is it just me???????????????? :shock:
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No I don't think it's you October. You deserve a response and you deserve a response when you were told you would get one. I don't think it is at all unreasonable to get a little shirty with the people that promised you one.
So there!
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OK, evil thought...
what if you told these folks that you are an investigative reporter 8)...what response would you get then???
Hey, don't really do this! Just another "let's get even" fantasy from a still-voiceless-sometimes person.
MP
PS it's not you.
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Hi October,
This is the usual red tape in all institutions, not you or just this case or just this Trust. When we are vulnerable, we tend to take everything personally, and the system can be a b***ch sometimes. I really do wish you will find a kind ear, as I know you've been struggling with simply finding help for quite sometimes now. They must have gotten the complaint, as this guy's letter seems to be in retaliation. Wish you didn't have to go through all this!
Hugs, Marta
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Your idea is not such a bad one, MP. My career, many eons ago, was PR. I know how to access journalist support if I need to, and the fantasy is a good one.
I have used the MP route in the past. I doesn't achieve much long term, but it certainly makes people wake up and do what they are supposed to do. I will give this one a week, and then maybe write to dear K. (My MP).
Meanwhile, life goes on ...
Thanks, Cadbury as well. I am trying not to get too cross as yet, but I wonder when things are going to change. I don't ask anyone to make promises, but when they do, I seem to be always disappointed. What am I doing wrong? Diane said I expect too much, but is it too much to expect that when you are told that you will have a response in two days, to actually wait ten days (to allow for everything imaginable, such as post, typing speeds etc etc) and then be disappointed?
Maybe it is the level of disappointment that is the issue. But that is because of how many times this has happened. The first time it hardly registers, but by now I have lost count.
I am not sure I understand how this world works any more. :(
Thanks Marta. You are right, I am taking this personally. I am not sure how not to do that any more. I am too involved, and the cost of failure is too high - and too personal - for me not to. I am really struggling with nasty thoughts and stuff on my own, and I can't even get a return phone call when it is promised.
It feels like drowning in sight of land, and seeing everyone sitting sunbathing as you come up for the third and last time. They can see what is happening, but nobody can be **sed to throw a lifebelt.
Good job I can't drown. Maybe that is because of coming from a family of witches. :lol:
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Diane said I expect too much, but is it too much to expect that when you are told that you will have a response in two days, to actually wait...and then be disappointed?
This really got me thinking, October. It sounds like a monologue from my own head (how'd you get in here? :))What does "too much" really stand for? I think it might stand for "too much hope." Maybe that sounds awful, but I've been reading some amateur Buddhist stuff. They say, DON'T hope, and you'll suffer less. I don't think they mean don't be cheerful, open, or optimistic. Instead I'm beginning to think it means, don't SET YOURSELF UP with hope, or with expecting things you have no control over. So, knowing what you know about how the system, the bureaucracy, so often operates (or fails to)...could expecting the two days to really mean two days be a way of setting yourself up?
I bet nobody would disagree that if they SAY two days, they should PERFORM
two days. But somehow, "they" -- the little bureaucrat making such promises-- has lost power, so even though you shouuld be able to, the reality is probably that such promises can't be taken too specifically. The legally documented sort of stuff? You betcha. But a verbal, busy-clerk kind of promise...sounds dim.
What' if what's really driving your focus on what they're (not) doing can be flipped over? I wonder if it's really an expression of the enormity of your own drive to be whole? In that light, even your frustration might be a sign of healing. You want it SO much that you want to blast past delays to the greater wholeness that you are as determined and destined to reach as a bird taking flight. Your wings are already working, so I don't think anything related to speed can ultimately slow you down.
(Boy, I'm such a windbag. I know it.)
Hugs,
Hopalong
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HI October:
Late reading here (I think my pc is fixed..........for now.........or else.........who knows??? Man!! I find it so frustrating being pc illiterate!!! :?)
Something struck me as I read this thread:
I find myself falling into believing that Dr I is right, and that all he says means that I deserve nothing at all.
Iffff..........you were angry and aggressive..........you would need therapy to deal with it, right? I mean, is it healthy to be angry and aggressive?? So, if you ask me, this dork doc stuck his foot in his mouth in a very efficient manner.
He said you have no problems and then went on to list the problems. How dense is that???
And WHOO?? gets to decide what you deserve???
This dorky foot-in-mouth-sticking doc???
Or........you??
IMO, you deserve to feel healthy........emotionally, mentally, physically, etc and if you don't feel healthy.....then you are not only entitled to seek help to get to that mode, but admirable and brave for continuing to seek it, regardless of block-head letters from dorky docs.
(((((((((((October)))))))))))
Sela
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Dear October,
I hope my post wasn't dorky or insensitive. I believe you are entitled to proper and prompt help, and I also think that doctor was guilty of malpractice.
My "Buddhism" tangent wasn't meant to suggest being passive about getting the care you deserve. I just resonated with your painful frustration over the delays. A lot. Was trying to think of ways of coping with that feeling.
I hope the logjam is coming unstuck and getting you the help you need, asap!
And I hope my post wasn't too aggravating. In hindsight, I think it wasn't very well-tuned.
Hopa-learn
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Thanks for your help, everyone, as always. No Hopalong, your thoughts were useful. But you may have missed the point that when promised 2 days I waited 10 before becoming distressed.
In the past I have had letters of referral go missing completely. I don't know what happens elsewhere, but here in the third world UK when a doctor makes a referral there is no follow up whatever to that letter. If it goes astray for whatever reason, then there is no protection for the patient. I have suffered from this more than once, and so have to take responsibility on myself to ensure that communication happens in the way it should.
I once checked the waiting list time for a particular referral and was told it would take two to three months. So I waited three months, and then rang the hospital concerned to find the letter of referral had never arrived. I then had to ring my GP and request a fax copy of the referral be sent. I was then sent an appointment for three months later. I complained, via my MP, and the appointment was brought forward one month. So I ended up waiting five months for a 2 - 3 month appointment.
The Buddhist approach of non violence and non intervention might work in some cases, but when dealing with the NHS I have learned that I have to follow through on everything. I have to ask when I will expect to hear from people. If they promise to phone, I have to ask how long it is likely to be before they do. If anyone makes a commitment to me, I warn them that I prefer not to have the commitment if they are not sure of keeping it, because in the end I am the one who pays the price for this level of administrative complacency and - well, what else could you call it but incompetence.
A simple admin system of reply card or phone call for each referral would prevent this from happening. But there is no such safety net in place. It is the most vulnerable who suffer, time and again.
I had a phone call today from the Complaints Manager. She wanted to know specifically what I am complaining about in the letter from Dr I. I told her several things that are wrong with it, and then said, in summary I think I would like to say that his letter is intemperate and immoderate, and that in response I want to use a moderate and temperate word to describe it. I would like to say that it is unkind.
:)
But then later I remembered that four years ago I had a difficult conversation with another doctor - a GP. So I am wondering if he is right, and I am an abusive person, after all. And then the ground shifts from under me, and I lose myself again.
Thanks for saying I deserve better, Sela. I will try to believe that. ((((((hugs)))))))
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I did miss the 10 days' patience. I was reading (and yapping) too impatiently. I'm sorry. And yegods. I thought U.S. managed care was a mess. Well, it is, in that we only give it to lucky employed people with benefits, but it's efficient when it works.
As to you being abusive, as I read this I got an impression of a determined, resolute, and rational person dealing with a broken, irrational, wobbly system that is not making sense. You certainly make sense. Maybe your frustration at times makes you edgy when you have to hold their hands to explain to them how not to drop you between the cracks. But that hardly sounds abusive. Just frustrated.
I will telepathically try to keep you company in the waiting room...
Hopalong
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Hiya Hops. I don't think my last post reads very well. What I meant to say rather more is that I admire the Buddhist teachings of non intervention and non violence, and that they are very important. I also admire the respect they have for all of creation, which we could all learn from. I am sure I am not patient enough, or calm enough. Not by miles.
Today there appears to be a small glimmer of light. The Complaints Manager rang me today to say she has spoken with the next pychiatrist along the line, who I have not met yet, but who I have now been referred to for an assessment and explanation of what is happening. She discussed my situation with him, and he is bringing forward my appointment; currently set for 30 Nov. He repeated to her the same as Dr I is saying; that there is unlikely to be any funding for further treatment.
This is the good bit. In response, she told him that actually that is not his concern. His job is to make an assessment, and then make a report to the Trust on the basis of that assessment, so that the Trust can then decide what is appropriate or not. 8)
Makes me wonder what kind of training these doctors get in terms of procedures and patient rights.
So by her telling me this today, it is kind of a big clue or hint that I am right to be concerned about the obstructive behaviour I have met with so far. I still cannot dare to hope that my complaint will be upheld, because the cost of failure if I hope too much will be horrible. But it is a good sign.
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All hail the Complaints Manager!
Dear October whom I don't know well, have you read Victor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning?
(It was written waaaay before they remembered women deserve pronouns too.)
If I DID know you, I would give you a copy, with a big hug.
Love,
Hopalong
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Dear October whom I don't know well, have you read Victor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning?
Nope. Should I? :)
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Yes yes yes. Everybody should.
It's a story that's hard, because it's about a concentration camp survivor.
There is all that to walk through with him. But where he takes you in the end is life-changing.
When I read it it actually rearranged my mind.
It's a very healing book. I'd love to know what you think.
Hopalong
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PS--it's a short book, too. You can read it in a day or less.
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It's a story that's hard, because it's about a concentration camp survivor.
There is all that to walk through with him. But where he takes you in the end is life-changing.
Hmm. Thanks for the recommendation, but perhaps this is not the right time for me to read a book like that. :?
Very happy to read edited highlights from yourself, though. (Nice bits, preferably!)
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Hi October,
I was trying to figure out why Hops recommended this book, then it dawned on my about the trauma survival. Duh. Is that it, Hopalong? Anyway, I'll second the recommendation to read it (when you feel up to it). I was so glad to have someone else tell me about it. Here are my highlights:
* No one has the right to abuse anyone, not even an abuse survivor.
* No one can control or take away your ability to choose your response to any situation.
* Love conquers all (and Frankl has some pretty powerful insights on this, not just trite poster captions).
That's it for now. Hope it helps. MP
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Well put, Miss P! Especially that his conclusions are not trite.
He not only survives abuse, he transcends it and then shares insight that can be life-changing.
It's been a major book in my life.
Hopalong
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All hail the Complaints Manager!
Dear October whom I don't know well, have you read Victor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning?
(It was written waaaay before they remembered women deserve pronouns too.)
If I DID know you, I would give you a copy, with a big hug.
Love, Hopalong
Hopalong, I just read the book and loved it. Yes, its a healing book, kind of a counterforce to the evil we experience to anchor us to the goodness lief and human beings are capable of.
Marta
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Wow. Marta, I'm so glad you read it.
You so got it.
It really is about...meaning.
It gives meaning, dignity, at such a deep level.
Thanks for letting me know you experienced it, made my day.
(found out this a.m. my job might vanish in June, dang.
time to plan and hunt...again...would be about my 10th new job in 8 years...)
But that book sures gives perspective, doesn't it?
Hopalong