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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #270 on: July 06, 2020, 04:06:04 PM »
Ok, just as there are layers to rest, there are layers to self-care. 

Unseen until they appear, when we're ready.


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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #271 on: July 07, 2020, 05:39:13 PM »
Well,  I wrote about my T session yesterday morning, then lost it.

Will write about it later. 

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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #272 on: July 08, 2020, 01:25:57 PM »
I'm noticing there are tadpoles, in my rain collection containers.  They're taking my attention.   I don't want them to die.  I've seen ONE treefrog, in 10 years in this State, and it was located on the bush NEXT to one of the rainbarrels.  I don't want them to cook, or get scooped up and poured onto plants.  It was green, and small and reminded me of the frog displays at nature centers.... so special.  It felt like I spotted a faery. 

Part of this is.....  frogs and toads and tadpoles remind me of a magical time in my childhood.  The other part is I don't like things to suffer...not the smallest of creatures.  Maybe mosquitos fat with my blood, but not often.

Any idea what I should do with these tadpoles, so they live?  I was thinking I'd strain them all out, put them into a container IN the shaded woods, with rocks and maybe a couple plants from the lake edge.. you know... in all my spare time.  I can't stand the idea of them cooking or dying in the water.... just can't.

I have a list of things I want to get done, and lots of outdoor stuff involved.  Very happy to see Moss friend tomorrow.  Maybe she can take the tadpoles to her lovely yard and hatch them out there. 

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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #273 on: July 08, 2020, 02:28:31 PM »
Do you have a small pond or stream nearby? That would be lovely for them, Lighter.
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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #274 on: July 08, 2020, 03:03:45 PM »
Small black ones, not the big green-brown ones of my childhood, CB.

And yup, Amber... I have a body of water nearby.... a mile or so walk.  I can gather them up,  and take them to the....

little pond! 

If my last posts didn't make it, THAT makes no sense, but I tried to post about Monday's T session, and lost power.

::checking to see if my post dissapeared again::.

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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #275 on: July 08, 2020, 03:05:30 PM »
Grrrrr.... second draft of post DID NOT GO THROUGH.

I must need to write it out a third time.


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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #276 on: July 08, 2020, 05:58:25 PM »
OK.... Monday AM T appt.
Spoke briefly about codependence and willingness to stand up and do the right thing.....  bc it's necessary and good and right to do so.

T said not mutually exclusive.  Both can be true.  I have the feeling I would have done the job, delivered the news and moved along gracefully HAD my father acknowledged me, at least pretended to hear me, and not assigned motives along the lines of heinous buggering,
on
my
part.
Also, I realize now, being run off by the maid.... hissed at, generally accused BY HER of having bad motives as well.... while BODY blocking me.... was upsetting in the extreme, partially bc of my upbringing by my father, and not bc she was overstepping, and BLOCKING me from getting important, vitally important, information into my father's very hard head.

I had to orient my vision, for EMDR, to a lamp and door frame,  just above T's fingers moving back and forth, and at eye level, which took some time and I got better at as we went along.

So, we started with a body scan and did some EMDR for what felt like pressure in my head.   It was a 3... got it down to zero.  Moved on.

Brought up the story, and went through it, in my head... sort of snapshots of incidents.... moving very briskly along. 

T was moving at an obviously quick pace.  I always spoke up, asked for more time, or indicated I was ready to move on if I was ready. No pressure to say the right thing or appear to be going faster than I could go. It felt very taxing to move my eyes that fast AND breathe mindfully. Adding the story meant my tongue was wagging back and forth a bit, inside my mouth, at certain points.  Stopping it took energy, so just wagged away when it happened. LOTS of focus and energy went into this.   

We moved through visualizing the story, which kept adding new incidents as we went along, then
went into the DIRECTOR'S CUT, which is how I would have liked for it to have gone. 

I could have chosen a super hero to save me, been a super hero and saved myself, appeared as my adult self and taken my younger self OUT of the family/scene and raised myself, but I chose to change my father's choices, and that wasn't right.  Had to do it again,but THIS time focusing on me, my feelings, how I experienced it and I added my father's exgf to the scene.

 He married her.

For that to be true, he would have lost his live in..... I won't go into remembering how Dad would have put it,but a woman who was from a 3rd world country doing his bidding, and working for almost free... pretty much covered it, IMO.  I think she received 400.00 a month.. which is what she asked for when she begged for the job, and received it. 

That said, Dad had the maid and the gf fighting over him, at a certain point.   Dad asked the maid for certain reassurances she would care for his aging parents IF that became necessary.  She said she would, and in that moment I believe he made his choice, and selected the maid.   

Ex gf was a nurse, and not one to be railroaded... a LEO...feisty and fun and always listened to me, made me feel heard and seen and never backed down from a fight with him.  That was a double edged sword,btw.  One of my traumatic memories was of my father peeking in gf's windows, listening to gf's and my conversation, then coming INTO her home, wrapping the phone cord around her throat while making it clear he disagreed with her story, then sending me on my way.... I drove away in shock, which is how I felt during some of the T session quite often.

So,  I was often neutral in my body, and T said it was pretty normal.  She asked my guardians, protecting younger Lighter from more pain, if they would allow the work.  I then asked, and received a quick YES response, so we continued.

We went into the story, then into the body, then back and forth till we got to the place where I pictured the real story, then how I would have changed it..... back and forth,  each picture seen BOTH ways, till  I got to the end. The end was always the surgery.

Then back into the body.... EMDR to get a zero. Sometimes I felt nausea... it was the most common somatic experience.  Once it was a pain, stabbing pain, around my heart.  The last one was the feeling of having someone tugging on my belly button from the inside... very sharp.

After finishing the story, and bringing all somatic feelings to a zero, we did a scan for reactivity around any of the memories..... everything was a zero TILL we got to the end. 

It's always been that one scene.... the maid sitting to my left, hissing at me... taking my focus OFF my father, telling me how angry I MADE my father,  while completely ignoring the information that could have been very useful, and body blocking me... just very upsetting.  There was still a charge to it, so we pulled it back up.  IT was a scene in black and white...

T had me pretend her fingers were an eraser and we went over it with EMDR.... erasing the top half... I didn't get to the bottom half, but T thought it was fine to move on to PAINT.

I chose the color green and we dove right in, painting out the remainder of the picture with thick green paint... it dried to a light green with very crackling.  Nice. 

Then we went right into WALLPAPERING over the green with a picture of my choosing. I could have selected Mother Theresa or the Pug.... I chose my tomato garden. Lovely.  Fragrant.  Then we moved right along to selecting items I wanted to leave behind... destroy.

I filled a shoebox with black and white photos... didn't seem like many.  I selected the method of destruction... dissolving in chemicals or water.... burying.... or burning... which most people choose.

I selected burning by bonfire both times I've done this.   THIS was the first time I built an Amazon bondire and performed the ritual with you guys, in AMazon warrior garb. I didn't have time to get fancy, but there was a lot of faux fur, buckles and fire burning everything down... chemically changing the photos to ashes.

We scattered them onto the tomato plants. It was nice.  Seemed right,  considering the recent thread on green burials.

Then it was time to move towards the bridge, which we'd all cross.  We emptied our pockets and bags of residual ashes, and walked across.  The first time I did this was with family members, and we took off our clothing at the bridge and put on white linen clothing.

I knew we were heading to a body of water..... and I'd be going INTO the water.... this time I was going to drink it.   What did I want the water to look like?  She wanted adjectives.....

Cool
Clean
Clear
Joyful
and it was surrounded by moist cool moss and water lilies, and topped with lily pads..... and it was small and round, but I pushed off the side and traveled above the water for a ways.... very fast. Trailing my fingertips.... then dove straight in.... deep.... drinking water.... I was SO thirsty. 

We chatted about the water... the life I wanted to be clean, cool, clear and joyful..... whether I believed we'd completed the process... was it permanent?  I put a number on it.  Same as the first time, it was 100%.  I believed, and what's more my intuition said it was complete. 

I wanted to go back to the pool, and spent time there after the session ended.  T said that pond would be another happy healing place for me.  I believe her.

::hitting send BEFORE this post goes away too::

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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #277 on: July 09, 2020, 03:43:41 AM »
I'm glad you managed to write it all down the third time, Lighter.  I'm sorry to say, but after reading that, I don't think your dad deserved your care and concern for him after assaulting his partner in front of you.  And then to make allegations about you after you try to help him?  He didn't deserve you caring about his wellbeing the way that you did.  Did you feel better after the session?  Do you feel like it's been resolved now? xx

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« Reply #278 on: July 09, 2020, 09:54:29 AM »
Tupp:

Eh, I do feel it's resolved.

Two things can be true at the same time.  My sibs and I enjoyed amazing formative years.... Dad was a good caretaker.  We had wonderful grandparents, on a farm, with ponies and little black and white cow printed cowboy outfits, complete with chaps.  Cousins.  An orchard, fireflies, frogs in a watering can, garden, barn cats, a root cellar, popcorn and ginger ale on tv trays, homemade ice cream... the Wild Wild West,  The Mutual Of Omaha Wild Kingdom, Amish babysitters....  it was heaven, even if my parents were very young.  They had good support systems. 

Pond.

I've moved into gratitude for both my parents. 

When I think about them, the tough memories, the ones I've worked on, don't come up for me.  I can feel a little empty buzzing in my occipital lobe.. then... nothing.  Maybe a little pain in my temporal lobes.  I'll leave it alone and go about my day.

Youngest dd fabricated what she calls "clown headgear" with matching neck and wrist cuffs.  Think hand-painted renaissance headgear.... red and gold swirled cones with little ivory pleats at the bases and gold ribbons streaming out the tops with tiny strands of pearls.  The neck cuff is about 6 inches high... amazing!  Her birthday is tomorrow and we're still coming up with the perfect plan for her to wear one of her new Lolita fashion dresses... it's Japanese fashion, btw. 

I have tadpoles to move with moss friend L today. 

I'm very happy, ((Tupp.))

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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #279 on: July 10, 2020, 06:23:45 AM »
I'm glad you're happy, Lighter, and that the bad memories have receded.  And that you have good memories of childhood as well.  The clown costume sounds great; I hope DD has a lovely birthday :)  Is that what the party's for?  I know it's a little bit away yet but I wondered if it was a birthday party of just a getting together party?  I hope she really enjoys her day xx

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« Reply #280 on: July 10, 2020, 02:40:32 PM »
DD decided she wants an intimate party... just her sister, and me, there.  Today she is 18!

We went to a fancy grocery store, where dd chose a fancy cake, and many fancy ivory and gold candles... so pretty!

I think this will be more of a photo op for her.  DD hasn't really been chipper and outgoing since COVID. 

I think she's getting what she wants though.

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« Reply #281 on: July 11, 2020, 03:06:47 AM »
Aw, LIghter, Happy, Happy Birthday to DD!  Give her a big birthday hug from us.  Intimate parties are the best, especially when there's fancy cake!  Have a really lovely time.  Gosh your girls are so grown up now.  Is 18 a really big celebration there or is that more 21st?  We kind of do both here, and then it's the decade milestones after that.  Have a really lovely day xx

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« Reply #282 on: July 11, 2020, 12:40:24 PM »
Yes, Tupp.  18th BD is official adult BD.  Of course, she can't officially drink, though she can serve in the armed forces or become a sex worker, which honestly.... would warrant a drink, IMO. 

Not that she's entertaining the sex worker career.  She has considered the armed forces, however.

Her photos from last night are amazing....  really came out carny circus from the 1920s.... maybe.  So cool. 

I'll respond to your other posts... I don't have enough time to do them justice right now.  The Pug awaits her outdoor shower with Grandma!

And it is gloooooooorrrrriouse today.   Just windy and mild and breezy and I can't get he smile off my face!  SO HAPPY to be busy... enjoying everything I do.  No worries, and normally I'd be all uptight about kitchens and bathrooms being pristine.

::blowing raspberry::

All will be well, and my mind is nowhere close to worrying about housework...  I have lots packed to go... enjoying that a lot.

I went to Hopey this morning, for more fresh mozzarella to pair with OHIO tomatoes, warm off the vine, and they told me I couldn't get in yet... only the elderly and pregnant women.  I was about to beg for my order to be handed to me when they guy said... "Sorry, just 55 and older"  hee.

I pranced on in, happy to be right on time, and mistaken for younger... I think the fact I park so far away, to older people and women with children can take the closer spots, he assumed I was younger.  Also.... lots of dancing in the car going on.

Only 5 cheese balls left... so I got them, then found a few GF items. 

I have to tell you... rest is more important... deep sleep.... than getting the house perfect.  It's like a shift happened while I was sleeping.... my brain just clicked into another gear....
slower, happier, less OCD gear. 

I also think the Island Guests not contacting me for an entire day helped.

::twirling back to the job at hand...looking for pug::

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Re: Mindfulness and codependence thread
« Reply #283 on: July 20, 2020, 04:15:38 AM »
I'm glad everything is looking so good, Lighter, and that DD enjoyed her birthday.  Yes, consent ages are odd here as well - you can join the Army at 16 but you can't get a tattoo or buy yourself a pint?  I suppose where they've made different laws at different times society's been different.  They could probably do with reviewing a lot of stuff (although they probably all have more important things to worry about just now :) ).  Did Pug enjoy her shower? xx

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« Reply #284 on: July 21, 2020, 10:37:38 AM »
Tupp:

Pug doesn't enjoy shower or bath time.  She endures them; )
Time to have her shaved.  She almost had a heat stroke on the forest trails the other day.

We wet her down and carried her, bc she collapsed.  So scary.  All better now.  She needs her summer shave.

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