Mindfulness and codependence thread

[sKePTiKal]

I too find the requisite political viewpoint validation seeking, tiresome and irritating. No wonder so many basic functions and customer service aren't practiced anymore. No political position is superior in it's entirety to another; one's not morally superior or evil walking the earth; the hyperbole and virtue signalling and public shaming/shunning/cancel culture is astoundingly destructive to the stated goals of "equality" and "unity". Having the  "right" political viewpoint doesn't give one license to not do your job or evangelize your views onto other people or behave like a total jackass. Sorry; that doesn't pass the social contract criteria.

Excellent job, not engaging in that for the health benefits available, Lighter. In the end, as long as someone is providing a good or service in a responsible fashion, I couldn't care less their politics... a political viewpoint doesn't automatically make someone a threat to me; an enemy; an "other" and I'm truly sick of how it dominates conversation these days. There are so many more interesting, creative and positive, and educational things to talk & think about. Learn how to do. People are just people; they are NOT their political viewpoint "purity" - of any persuasion.

[lighter]

Oh, CB....my friend is super Southern and her mama bear nerve was tweaked hard!

Lighter

[lighter]

DD18 and I have been poisoned by vinyl chloride....thinking really great smelling candles did it.  Maybe combination of LVP, paint fumes among things we haven't thought of.

I had 2 days where I was so beat....so bone deep exhausted.....a bit emotional....it as terrifying, bc Nutritionist told me to take some down time and I just didn't.  I like staying busy.

So, I almost walked out of Lowes the night I felt I'll....really I'll, then stayed and finished making decisions at hand.....but shouldn't have.  That night I had pain in leg, back and right thumb....was going to drive to lake, but hit a wall.  Had to sleep.  Drove the next morning feeling much improved.  Pain in thumb still there but walking normal....back normal.

Almost an hour into the drive I felt very faint.  We stopped at an old Ingles and bought water and walked around.  My thumb stopped hurting....faintness went away.  I finished the drive feeling stronger and stronger.

Got to the lake, shopped for tile again and insulation. Dropped it off at house, ate lunch then drove to Western Union to send money to Bahamas and get to appt with nutrition response gal....2.5 hours in Friday 5:00 traffic...was 6 minutes late.  Lots of stress DD18 slept through.

NRP found the chemical in DD immediately then tested me ...same thing, but our bodies handled it different.  DD was neurological.  Mine was heart.....explained some things. 

Parotid PMG supplement for DD.  Cardio-Plus, chewed, for me.  Tastes like a mouthful of horse barn floor....sticky...in my teeth.  Almost threw up the first time, which isn't normal.

The drive back to the lake this morning wasn't normal.  Mood swing, almost passed out once.  Stopped and ate.  Felt better, finished drive. 

DD and I talked about plans to create and find recipes and organize food plans.

I tried to do nothing for a while....just breathe and spend time in nature, as directed, but it drove me nuts.  I ended up at Lowes buying the last pallet of tile I found on sale the day before.  Crazy at 11.00 a box for 7 12x24 tiles....beautiful.  Will make 4 bathrooms downstairs all the same with that tile.  Upstairs will likely do all white marble porcelain tiles with bullnose....really great classic bathrooms.  The sale tile has no bullnose so will finish with the metal edge....a bit more contemporary, but clean enough.

NRP said we'll be fine, btw.  I'm glad to have an answer.  My imagination was going all over the place.....wondering if this is how it feels when cancer starts....is this what happens when one ages, etc.

Chemical poisoning seemed much less terrible at that point.

This turned into a general update.  Lake renovation moving along.  I'm problem solving and planning ahead for actual rentals....bedding, coffee, soaps, dispensers, replacing plastic shelving pegs bc they're snapping off and failing while planning a kitchen cabinet refresher.....paint, distressing, new backsplash....drawer organizers.

I feel like it's all swirling around n the air...here.... to be plucked and placed and put into a rental program, BAM!

Contractor works here more when I'm at the house.  I'm trying to go back to my yard for a spell.  To heal and catch up.

I picture myself rising above all the small things.  Never feeling petty or resentful or reactive.  This health scare has me feeling things I knew I'd feel some day.  Time and energy are precious. I don't want to waste either with negative people.  No more rehashing old stuff.

Going to bed now.

Nite.

Lighter

[Twoapenny]

Gosh, Lighter, that does sound scary.  I hope you're feeling back to your usual self soon.  Well done on the tiles!  Sounds like a great buy.  I hope the set up continues to move forward and there aren't any more health scares xx

[sKePTiKal]

I can relate to all those physical experiences Lighter. This is what happens to me, when I continue pushing through a project and refuse to stop, rest, and reflect. Especially in the heat & humidity. Dehydration can also cause what you experienced - and water doesn't always work the best. You need to put electrolytes in with the liquid. Not gatorade or commercial crap!

I have a recipe for what we call "Nectar of the Godz" that I'll dig out for you.

[Hopalong]

NRP found the chemical in DD immediately then tested me ...same thing, but our bodies handled it different.  DD was neurological.  Mine was heart.....

(((((((Lighter)))))), very sorry. I hate heart scares, health scares, sudden dips in wellbeing.

Does the NRP have her own laboratory for sophisticated blood tests on the spot? I've read it can be detected in urine and breath but only immediately after exposure.

I researched offgassing chemicals (not specific ones but the health effects of the overall "body burden", though vinyl is a well-known poison) during my 10-year job. (We sold organic home products -- made with organic fabrics with zero plastics and also, especially, natural latex to avoid the nonstop offgassing of godknowswhich chemicals from foams, adhesives, paints and surface finishes....and don't get me going on nanoparticle fabric treatments or flame retardants). Given the nonstop home improvements and projects you've been doing I do think your cumulative exposure to toxic materials would be worth assessing.

I began to notice, really feel (or often smell) what was happening when I'd walk into a Lowe's or Bed Bath & Beyond. The chemical load in the air would make my eyes water and my chest tighten. It's absolutely a real threat to our health and cumulatively, has been implicated directly in cancers, reproductive health problems, developmental brain disorders, autism and ADHD, obesity, lowered IQs and more.
Amazingly, the utterly massive chemical industry and the manufacturers of a million home materials and products keep this in the shadows with extensive lobbying.

To create a natural home with natural, nontoxic finishes and glues is expensive, but some people who can really do manage it.

Oy, off on a rant. It's close to my heart and I wish you the absolute best in minimizing your risks. I read a couple thousand sources like this during that job: https://www.nrdc.org/stories/building-healthy-home. Below, it offers articles with tips that help mitigate the dangers.

hugs and luck
Hops

[lighter]

Well....my shoulders and thumb hurt this morning.  That's new.  I slept 5 hours.  My back wants to be unhappy, I can tell.  Kidneys?  I might be imagining it, but my heart feels heavy and hurts just a little every once in a while.  Makes me feel like being very careful.

I suspect peeing might be what helps restore strength so quickly......chemical clears system through kidneys mostly in lower dose single exposure to vinyl chloride. 

Yesterday's drive was a lot of resting bridge of my nose on the steering wheel, DD undoing my bra while I death gripped the wheel.  I really had to pee, but drove on, trying to get through it.  The faintness began while talking about a blood fetish someone I don't like had...apparently there's sensitivity involving the pericardium and adrenalin. 

The day before, I peed at grocery store....things got SO much better after that...pee, drink water, walk....I think it was offloading toxins in urine helping me feel better.

I feel in a double bind.... I'm anxious when trying to relax with so much to do at lake house.  Doing taxes me physically.  I'm trying to move slowly, avoid upset....get planning stiff done.

The cottage has renters coming and going....only 4 hours between arrivals and departures.  Will update the cottage thread. All good for the most part.

Hops, NRP utilizes muscle testing to quickly identify imbalances and causes.  She figured it out in less than 3inutes.

You can look up Ulan Nutritional Systems if you want to know more about it and how it works.

I have no doubt all the chemicals and runs to Home Depot's, flooring warehouse and Lowes is accumulating.  The thing is, DD18 doesn't go with me.  Something we've both been around is new LVP flooring, paint, plastic covering all the furnitureband this really yummy candle.  I suspect the candle, I really do.

Lighter

[sKePTiKal]

Nectar of the Godz Rehydration mix:

In a Gal Pitcher, mix:

2 c citrus juice
1/2 c honey or sugar - adjust to taste
1-1/2 tsp salt (Himalyan Pink adds extra minerals)
1/4 tsp cream of tartar (supplies potassium)

fill pitcher w/water and stir WELL. Cream of Tartar will not stay suspended so stir/shake each time before pourinig.

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Something else, that I learned in the southwest was that if you only drink water and don't eat - you won't stay hydrated. The water will just flush all the good electrolytes from your system. So do both, before you're starving or so thirsty you'll empty a whole bottle of water in one go. In theory - only drinking water CAN dehydrate you.

[Hopalong]

Lighter, I'm afraid I'm deeply, completely skeptical about manual muscle testing or applied kinesiology to detect anything but pretty basic muscular issues. Its utility or accuracy for determining something as subtle and complex as a toxin level in the blood or a specific chemical imbalance is beyond my capacity (or willingness) to believe. Much less "quickly identify in less than 3 minutes."

But I'm glad it comforts you and am also a strong believer in the placebo effect as real and powerful. So all in all, whatever floats one's boat, floats the boat!

We'll never quite agree on what's the best balance between uncritical acceptance of poorly conceived and executed western medicine, and the very same limitations in chiropractic, various alternative practitioners, etc. But that's okay. I learn from your enthusiasms. And I am very glad they help you feel better! Mainly, I believe in a "cafeteria" approach to medicine and healing, and am leery of outright rejection of one branch or another.

Glad you have a source of comfort and confidence because those are super powerful. As is PEE! That makes a lot of sense to me too.

hugs
Hops

[lighter]

There's supposed to be a practitioner approx half an hour from your location, Hops.  "Comfort" and "confidence" are nice, you're right, but not the only benefits to identifying causes and solutions for inflammation in the body: )

I wish a practitioner was a half hour drive for me instead of 3 hours.

Lighter

[Hopalong]

Thanks, Lighter.
A NRP isn't a practioner for me but I wish there was one closer to you, for you.

hugs
Hops

[lighter]

Me too and....you don't know till you try; )
Lighter

[Hopalong]

It's okay. I don't use practitioners who sell applied kinesiology or muscle testing or supplements. Cain't hep it! It's not a judgement for anyone else though, just me.

(I'm the same about a few other disciplines that many find helpful. Not claiming I'm right, just know what isn't right for me. Lots of years researching/writing about medical/health stuff.)

hugs
Hops

[lighter]

I've been a little shocked....lately....in that I feeeeel so many people walk around in fight or flight....switched all the time.....talking to MDs and Ts about it without any understanding That's what they're dealing with, living in, struggling to survive, really.

And it's a bunch of moving parts, I get that, but so many prescriptions later, so many new symptoms created by the drugs, later....my experience with the medical system is prop you up with drugs, give willfully ignorant advice in the most arrogant and dismissive way and keep throwing themselves out suggestions of things to try and see what happens.

I will say testing to see which MMIs are more compatible with a person's chemistry was a pleasant surprise, but that was a holistic psychiatric nurse practitioner (who stopped practicing to do yoga therapy, which wasn't for me when we tried it several years ago, but she referred me to the T, I ended up doing good work with.) She also helped both girls.

Humans are peeing chemicals into our ground water.  I just don't understand treating symptoms, with so little ability and care for determining causes.  Throwing drugs at symptoms, with no understanding of causes is standard practice, but shouldn't be, ime.  It's more money making Enterprise than do no harm practice of medicine.  For some reason, that's good enough.

It's never felt good enough to me, outside little med center visits for obvious problems where causes are obvious.

And so many people walking around with no understanding about their nervous systems and sympathetic nervous systems and how they're suppose to work, but aren't....they provide a rich client base for docs dx'ing every little symptom, on it's own, unable to see the forest for the trees.

Lighter

[lighter]

My oldest niece is visiting with her bf.  Picture young Tarzan, nature boy/man....childlike, still, in wonder, but capable of saving you over and over from peril.  Once he saved niece, her friend and his father after a raft flip incident in chilly Colorado river water.....righting the raft, then plucking everyone from the water, one by one after finding them in shock from the cold beginning with my niece.  This one's a keeper, imo.  He walks into the ocean and returns with food on the island. 

Anyway, it's DD19's birthday today!  Nice to have cousin here to celebrate.  Going downtown to drag show in the outdoors this evening.  DD19 put off her cake baking tradition till visit is over.   Will invite a friend this time.

We're having fun playing KING card game till 2am, eating yummy food, but still healthy, and watching the Dragula, Schitt's Creek and What We Do In The Dark.....kids go on hikes in Forest with Pug and to waterfall an hour away.  Seems like we're chucking in days of stuff in each 24hours.

I can see editing and organizing project's I want to get to.

Now....what to wear out tonight🌞

Lighter