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Certain Hope

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2007, 12:17:57 PM »
Dear Lighter,

I'm sorry... I don't know of a way to soften this or make it palatable.
Please forgive me. I should have shooshed until or unless I could have made a more complete explanation... or said nothing at all.

I know that you cannot make a giant leap in the midst of all you're enduring into the place of closure (such as it is) that I've reached after all these years.
I only hope to be able to show you that it will not always feel so desperate and impossibly endless. I know it's not good enough for where you are now. I remember that place. I wrote counselors, pastors, long phone calls, consults, research, appointments... every bit of energy I had went into trying to find a way to resolve this into some sort of fair. There is none.
There was no one who'd been there to help me sort this back then.
The "help" I received was in the form of my dad implying that my daughter may be lying, a police officer who let the pervert stop by at his convenience to make his statement, a court system which let him off a 15 year felony with 1 year suspended sentence and then a shortened probationary period, arranged by a probation officer who wrote in his final report that our family showed every sign of being able to maintain a safe environment for our children. Yay.
Then he started the lewd behavior again, a couple years later, and by that time, I had a 3 month old son, picked up my 4 children and moved 200 miles away. Dad went on and on about how that little boy needed his daddy and kept asking me when my husband (still not ex) was coming to visit.
That's not even the end of the story, but it's far enough.
What I learned is... some daddies, their kids don't need. And that's the reason for my strong reaction against this particular aspect of it all.
I hate to see you torn up by an old dream of how it should have been. You need every bit of your energy to be focused toward getting through this, not trying to make him pay for his rotten deficiencies.

I understand the anger, frustration, grief... just wanting your husband to straighten up and see the wonderful family he has and be what he should be. It's so very difficult to accept that he's not... and that he never will be.
And I understand the desire to see him outed at last, after he puts you through all of this, only to walk away and leave you to deal with the children he's left behind. It's not fair. It's not right. It's not at all what you'd imagined for your family. But Lighter... there will come a day when you do not feel so horribly bad. That's all I want you to know, and I just wish I could fast-forward you to that point to see... it won't always be this way.

Love,
Hope




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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2007, 03:01:38 PM »
I've never been through a custody conflict, etc.,
but I'm wondering, Lighter, can't reasonable consequences for schedules borken, etc., (his inevitable inconsiderate crappy "father" behavior) be incorporated into a custody/visitation decree?

They just sound familiar to me. As though I've seen them in sample separation agreements, or such.
I would certainly ask your lawyer to make it as structured as is legally possible.

(((((Lighter)))))

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2007, 03:11:57 PM »
Hope:

The best thing about this board.... is getting feedback from others on what they think I'm saying.

I can trim it up and widdle it down..... make adjustments and figure out how to express exactly what I need Judges and attorneys to hear....in the future.

Thanks for that, Hope.

I didn't realize you heard me saying what you heard me whining about, lol.  

I'm on a fact finding mission to cover my bases, as best I can, with regard to keeping my children safe in the future.

Both emotionally and physically.

I have to have a game plan very very soon and it has to be flawless as possible.

I want to look back and know I did everything I possibe..... made zero mistakes..... was proactive as I could have been.


Looking back and wishing I'd done such and such...... isn't acceptable: /

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2007, 03:19:54 PM »
Lighter,

I see   :idea:

Thank you  :)

But I didn't hear you whining... it was more like sheer terror.
Sorry I put my own feelings into the stew and stirred...
...still shoring up new boundaries here, kinda like cleaning the wax out of the emotional ears  :?

I don't know the ins and outs of all that, but what Hops said makes good sense.
In our case, I have sole legal and physical custody.

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2007, 03:25:28 PM »
Hops..... I don't want to have to write new language..... I want to take everything positive from accepted custody and visitation agreements and utilize them to the best of my ability.

I'm looking for a good child psychotherapist right now..... that will give me a lot of information.

My T gave me a lot of great advice and encouraged me to be less generouse than I thought I had to be.

To tell you the truth..... family law attorney's aren't very well versed in children's rights.  

They don't have much information short of the standard visitation plans that seem to have adopted bc people don't have the brain cells to think past every other weekend and Wednesday afternoons.  

I don't know all my options.

I don't know what everyone else learned through their struggles.

I'm going to ask at other sights that focus on divorce and visitation.  ::nod::

::pulling hat down tight....::

Wish me luck, lol.  

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2007, 04:22:27 PM »
Hey Hope, yeh trying to help an N is a total waste of time cos they will only seek to destroy you for helping them and being nice, bloody weirdos!  :? Boundaries was what I was missing too, I'm now lifting the bars up to the gapping holes in my personal space and learning to get angry, to say no and to make myself damn well happy for a change! I dont like myself for being selfish sometimes but then its time to get tough and demand respect from people rather than be a pathetic doormat, i'm now the doormat that leaves crap on your foot when you wipe them on me  :lol: I find it a scary line to tread sometimes as I am very aware of N behaviour and do not want to tread anywhere near their sick path, I know I never will but that doesn't stop me from being aware.
 
Also Dragon's Den is a show in the UK where people present the "dragons" or super rich tycoons with their ideas and ask for money investment to set up their business, its a good show except that the people who go on get rinsed for half of their businesses and make the dragons even richer, still thats life, no pain no gain as they say.
James

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2007, 04:30:56 PM »
(((((((((finding peace))))))))))

Love your avatar! We'll have to get Yoda and Gandalf together, that'd be the ultimate N bashing force in the universe!!

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2007, 04:46:00 PM »
Gaining Strength,

I have just caught up with this thread, and I saw your post yesterday about EFT. I had never heard of this before, and so I've just Googled it and briefly looked at one site. Can you tell me a bit more about what you think of it? Have you tried it for specific issues?

I am into most kinds of complementary therapies, and this one looks interesting.

Janet

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2007, 05:29:26 PM »
Hey James -

Thanks and love yours too!  One of my favorite Yoda quotes:

Fear leads to anger
Anger leads to hate
Hate leads to suffering

They wouldn't stand a chance - eh?  Too much light 8)

Peace
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- Life is a journey not a destination

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2007, 07:44:42 PM »
BRAVO Lighter

You are a mother tiger.

I know that Nolopress.com has tons of legal info...and I would seek out the names of the top 3 divorce lawyer barracudas in your area and get an initial consultation with each...telling them child protection and limitation of the damage from a severely disordered father (that won't be hard to prove) is Job ONE.

http://www.vawnet.org/DomesticViolence/Research/VAWnetDocs/AR_custody.php

I'd give whoever your lawyer is a copy of this article and tell him/her everything stems from this.

Others just fyi:
http://search.nolo.com/query.html?st=1&charset=iso-8859-1&col=b2store&qt=custody[/quote]]
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http://www.mothering.com/articles/growing_child/family_society/custody.html

sending love to you, and strength,
Hops
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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2007, 01:13:32 PM »
Hope.... sometimes terror is the operating force behind my energy/actions.... I'm still working on that one, but I always have the same priorities in mind.

Hops.... thanks for the links.

I'm going to read them  now then compose an e mail for attorney with attachmnents.  Time for an update from him anyway. 

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2007, 01:54:25 PM »
Lighter,

I understand. The wellbeing of the children is highest priority.

This link to the National Alliance for Family Court Justice may help, as well:  http://www.nafcj.org/

Praying for the very best for you, always.

With love,
Hope



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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2007, 03:18:39 PM »
Hops!  Thanks so much for the links again.  So much to think about and exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

Hope.... haven't read yours yet but perusing it I saw lots of good stuff. 

::feeling empowered and about to master the language of non violent domestic abuse::

YA!

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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2007, 04:03:18 PM »
You're welcome, Lighter!
I think I just Googled something like:

acrimonious custody abusive disordered parent

or something like that.
I love Google. You can throw a few words on it and the world of information is staggering.

xoxoxoxoxoxo,
Hops
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Re: Energy Vampires
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2007, 02:10:52 AM »
Court hearing next week.  Very busy... can't post much.  Thanks for all the help guys.

And Hope.... I missed that post about what trouble you had.  I know you're trying to calm me down and keep me level.  Thanks for that and sorry you and your children went through all that turmoil and pain.  Reall (((Hope)))