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Ami

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« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2008, 01:36:30 PM »
Dear James,
  I have to LAUGH b/c I am going through the SAME thing, right now, seeing behaviors in myself that I hate.
  I will think about an answer to that question b/c it is such an important one.I want to give it time and thought. I will get back ,later, Friend.               Love and a Big Hug   Ami
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« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2008, 02:11:23 PM »
Ami thanks, it feels good to know i'm not the only one dealing with this  Big big hug  James

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« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2008, 02:38:48 PM »
Phoenix... i am back on my feet and thank you for noticing. I'm very determind now. Just putting out what I think might help and asking for the support of others.   James

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« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2008, 04:14:00 PM »
Dear James,
 I have had a few  things help me in healing. One was trying to be as honest as I could ,on the board.Other people shared their pain with me and I did not feel so alone and isolated. You are already finding that,I think.
 Another was a person who loved me EVEN when they 'saw" me, the core of me. That really helped me to heal  shame.Love is a powerful healer in whatever form it takes. Pray for God to bring love in to your life  and be open to it when it comes.
 Now, I am trying to put all the pieces of myself in some order ,so I can navigate life in a comfortable way. I want to be  true to myself and caring of others, at the same time.Finding this balance is very hard when you have been abused.
 I had given up on life b/c I did not "know " the rules. Everything seemed hard and painful. I was not taught from the Life" rulebook". I was taught to 'serve" my N M. I kept repeating old patterns in my relationships, wanting approval, being afraid of anger, selling myself out.
  One day,I just gave up b/c nothing worked to get out of these patterns and the  feeling of  numb and grey.
 Now, I am trying to put myself in order. My first level is  character
.This is my values and morals. I always had them ,but my NM ridiculed me , so I felt ashamed for wanting and having them.Then, there is the "harder" part--feelings and thoughts.My M shamed me for caring for myself,protecting myself   and  wanting my own power. So, I have to slowly take these back. I am afraid to do it . I feel afraid that I am "bad" for wanting these things. I try to do it ,little by little. I try to be true to myself little by little. . I try to keep practicing. I try to be myself , as much as I can in relationships, as a way to practice  living from my own core. I AM making progress, but wish I was already  "there"-----confident, secure, knowing who I am . I used to feel this way, a long time ago..
 The last part(hardest) is  not to feel I am "bad(shame).
 My M buried me under mountains of shame..The shame is the hardest part. We made a decision that WE were bad and we have to go way down deep and reverse this decision.The truth of ourselves is the answer. We have to see what they put on us and what is really us.This is where I am ,now.I am slowly seeing parts of myself that I like.I can see that I have parts I don't like and I want to put them in 'order" also. I think you were asking about this. I am trying to look at ALL of me, and come to an acceptance of ALL of it. Then ,I can chose how I want to act, although I will slip up, too. I do feel that I can love myself, a little more.I think the ultimate answer is that we are human ,not bad. We are the same as  others. We were just made to FEEL bad and different. I am moving toward this truth , which I "knew' when I was younger and healthier.
 I am   moving on toward the time when I will be "up from underwater(facing life and myself ,as they are, not with all the distortions). That is mental health,IMO, when you can see yourself as you are ,good AND bad and see life as it is.
                              Love    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2008, 04:35:18 PM »
Ami... thanks for sharing more of your thoughts and congratulations on your hard work. I see the growth as you share and that inspires and gives me hope. I'm not sure of any spiritual beliefs in me. I think thats because i felt that i was so unloveable that God would reject me too. Its begining to take hold that its been be me rejecting myself simply because of the mind distortions that abuse creates. I was trying to remember how i found myself on this forum. Its very hazy but so glad I'm here. It's only now that i can appreciate the importance of safety in dealing with all of this. I'm starting to feel safer here and sense that recovery is very possible. You help.  My therapist called it o my attention a few yrs back that some people she has met have the idea that they simply have no right to exist. I was that way. I've learned to live on near to nothing and don't take up much space. I'm striving to find that i have a right to a little something in this world. I could even live mostly inside of myself if i could get all these other peoples voices out.... love James

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« Reply #50 on: March 17, 2008, 04:46:37 PM »
Oh James
 I felt like I did not deserve to exist ,either. It is so pitiful. I felt like I did not deserve to eat ,or breathe. It sounds horrible to say,but I had those thoughts.
 For me ,God has been instrumental in giving me  a new paradigm.I was not abused in God's name . My family was agnostic. He loves me . I am His creature. He does not make junk, so who am *I* to argue--Right?(lol)
  The deep feelings of self hate are horrible. I feel discouraged at times(now-lol). Sometimes the climb up seems monumental.However, at other times, I feel at peace and have self love.
 My best friend says two steps forward, one back. This is probably human.
  As I heal, I have the  revelation that I AM human,not bad
   I think that you are going there, James. I really, really do!               Love  Ami
 
 
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #51 on: March 17, 2008, 05:01:17 PM »
Ami I empathize completely. I had the hypocrisy of religion in my family. That stinks. I experience the same.... one step forward and a sort of retesting by slipping back. I did that the other day when i thought everything i had previously learned was in the toilet after being overwhelmed with a lot of feelings. Today i think it wouldn't have been possible for me to reach this level without my previous work and its clear that I still  retain what i've learned. In essence i didn't drown in the cesspool of painful emotional turmoil. Thats a big step to know this is possible. .....Love James

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« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2008, 05:12:40 PM »
Yeah, Today I feel that the shame is so deep that it seems never ending.It must just be how healing goes--Right? I bet it is this way for everyone.   
 My friend says that when I share a deep personal revelation  with my M, she cuts me off at the knees and throws the "shame brigade" at me---bleh.
     Love   Ami

                                                                             
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Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2008, 05:49:45 PM »
ami ....your mom and both my parents could be triplets from the same litter.  Lol   james

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« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2008, 05:58:48 PM »
ami ....your mom and both my parents could be triplets from the same litter.  Lol   james

OY!   (lol)                                  Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2008, 06:07:07 PM »
here i go again what does OY mean and while you're at it IME too  thanks kinda dense here james

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« Reply #56 on: March 17, 2008, 06:13:31 PM »
Oh, IME is in my opinion.
 Oy is an expression of "OH , NO"(loosely translated---lol)            Love    Ami


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No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2008, 06:45:22 PM »
Dear James,
Kudos to you for having the courage to tell! Hugs to you and to Amber and Findingpeace...

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« Reply #58 on: March 17, 2008, 06:50:34 PM »
Betelgeuse....thanks, its great to be ridding myself of this poison, I really had no idea   James

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« Reply #59 on: March 17, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »
Ami...i was thinking over what we just shared and it came to my mind that i even felt guilty for having fun, That actually destroyed it way down inspite of laughter on the outside. Mountains of guilt and shame here. In the process of bringing out the bulldozer though. Best James