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Thought Experiment for healing
« on: March 25, 2008, 12:50:36 PM »
I am working on a thought experiment to get me over the hump and into my new life.  There are three people whose philosophies or abilities I believe would greatly enhance my life.  I hold these people in my mind and imagine them helping change my thought patterns from ones of anxiety, shame, failing and rejection into ones of acceptance, confidence, and belonging.  

It has been second nature for me for some time to expect to fail, to expect to be rejected, to expect to be short on needed resources.  I can actually change those "normal" thought patterns.  Wayne Dyer, who is one of my three, writes that intention is a real substance that exists in the universe and that we can tap into it and when we do, when we set our intentions and begin via thought to make them real then we connect to that existing "intention".  

I have held these beliefs for some time and have been working towards actuallizing them.  It has been slower and more difficult than I expected.  When I read threads here by others who have grown up with N parents and I see strugles which parallel my own I am greatly relieved.  Some part of the shaming tells me still that I don't deserve to have a good life, to be accepted, to have friends, a good job, a social life and on and on.  A big part of me still believes that and that is THE barrier still standing between me and "life".  

I believe that these three people can help me move past this present darkness.  One of the three is a woman named Agnes Sanford who died in the 70s I think.  She was born in China to presbyterian missionaries and married and episcopal priest.  When she was a young mother, still in China, a visiting priest noticed that she was suffering from depression.  He asked her permission to pray for her healing and when he received it, he prayed successfully and relieved her of her depression.  That was the beginning of her amzing life of healing.  She found it easiest to heal children because they could believe with her more readily.  She used visualization techniques, the technique that is used by many people in many different arenas.  Norman Vincent Peale uses visualization.

I have tried for some time but my ability to visualize life the way I long it to be is somewhat limited.  So I am going to put all my determination behind creating that image and sustaining it.

I come here because it is here that I feel connected, connected the way we should have all felt with familiy and friends - the connection that I lost at the end of my 20s, the loss which I finally understand was due in great part to my anger and resentment that grew out of the dark shadow shaming and scapegoating.  

I am more comfortable in the shadows of shame and scapegoating and that is tradgic.  I choose to move into the comfort of being loved and included and encouraged and energized and capable of using my mind to create great ideas and follow through on these ideas and bring them to fruition.  

I have to overcome that big block.  I must believe that I deserve someting better.  

The best book and changing thoughts and thereby changing reality is Jeffery M. Schwartz's "The Mind the Brain".  He lays out the thought process for overcoming OCD.  He has had great success with patients.  If OCD patients can do it so can I.

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Re: Thought Experiment for healing
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2008, 01:17:34 PM »
Dearest GS - I have the same shames - not worthy of a good life or peace or good friends. I have used visualization, but something has blocked me now for years from making a reality out of my visions. I used to believe I was "cursed", that God hated me, and had picked me to make an example of. I've never told anyone that before.

Now I understand what the damage from the abuse and growing up cut in half by NPs has wrought. So I am changing my thinking gradually to believing that, with as much damage as I sustained, I am lucky to even be finding my other half-self, let alone to still be alive.

Kate
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Re: Thought Experiment for healing
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2008, 01:21:37 PM »
GS,
I think more than visualizing... you need to DO it. Fake it 'til you make it... really.
I would stop reading as much - you have all the information you need. Really!!
So now you need to just override any thoughts you know are wrong and live the way you want/need to.
You can play basketball in your mind forever, but you won't build skills until the ball is in your hand.
Lots of love GS,
Beth
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Re: Thought Experiment for healing
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2008, 11:15:16 PM »
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Dearest GS - I have the same shames - not worthy of a good life or peace or good friends. I have used visualization, but something has blocked me now for years from making a reality out of my visions. I used to believe I was "cursed", that God hated me, and had picked me to make an example of. I've never told anyone that before.

Now I understand what the damage from the abuse and growing up cut in half by NPs has wrought. So I am changing my thinking gradually to believing that, with as much damage as I sustained, I am lucky to even be finding my other half-self, let alone to still be alive.

Kate

ToWrite.  Thank you for sharing this "I used to believe I was "cursed", that God hated me, and had picked me to make an example of. I've never told anyone that before. "  I continue to be astonished by the depths of the damage done by my FOO.  Although I had tremendous insight into the damage at a young age I could not really believe it because I had been taught that I was responsible for all the bad in my life and that created a crazy "loop" in my thinking.  "My parents have been horrid to me but if they were then it is only because I am so wretched that I deserved it and poor them for having such a wretched beast as a daughter to make their lives so miserable that they are horrible towards me."  Sort of kind of thinking.  No way around the fact the I am the real problem.

I have been blocked for years from even being able to generate an image of what I want my world to look like.  I finally got a break through today.  I know that I couldn't do it because I had been blocked by that overwhelming sense of not deserving.  Even having lived it my whole life I an constantly astonished by how horrendous the Ns damage is.

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Re: Thought Experiment for healing
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2008, 11:19:11 PM »
you need to DO it.

LOL Grat - that's so true.  It really is a matter of doing it.  I'm so close.  I'll keep your advice in mind - as I DO it.

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Re: Thought Experiment for healing
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2008, 11:20:46 PM »
Phoenis Rising - what a fascinating post.  There is so much in what you have written.  I want to process it before I post.

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2008, 06:56:50 AM »
GS,
I swear, other people are so much brighter than me when it comes to picking out what is important in a post. It is wonderful that you had a vision of what can be (and what IS for normal people). We really do have to swim to the top of the sea to view the world. It took me sobriety to see the world. I was so angry about being a drunk, but it gave me the vision I needed to see my life as it was and could be. You have made it GS! You will get more and more comfortable as you venture into new situations and are pleasantly surprised by the results. When I learn a new language, I go out intoa store and use my small array of words. When they work, I am so happy. I overridde my fear and embarrassment, and learn that Step A works. And then I can move along one more step.
((((((((((((((((((((((GS)))))))))))))
Love, Beth
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Re: Thought Experiment for healing
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2008, 09:27:22 AM »
Dear GS,
 I will walk step by step, with you, as you change. I am going to get that book, also.
 I have changed ,recently.
  I think that we s/how have to find a way to let love in.  Love burns away the shame. The shame tells us we must hide. Love tells  we ARE ok. We do not have to hide. We can be  "real". Then, when we are real, we find that we never had to hide in the first place. We were not "bad"
 Have you ever seen Rexella Van Impe? She is the wife of Jack Van Impe, a prophecy teacher.She talks about how loving her mother was. Then, Rexella had an NDE .She is just filled with love.She embodies it.
 Often ,people who have NDE's seem to have replaced fear with love.
 I think fear is a big root for why we hide(shame).
We are afraid we will be humiliated, rejected, scorned. We, who have been abused, have been hurt up to the brim. We don't have extra "hurt" room.
 If  we can let love in, in whatever form, I think a few drops of love can heal what an ocean of intellectual knowledge cannot.
                                                                                                           *I* love you,GS, (for one)      Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2008, 12:18:42 PM »
The shame and resulting anxiety have been life crippling.  I am moving past this I am believing this and holding it to be true and developoing an image of what it looks like.  I am overcoming this anxiety by holding onto the image of what it feels like to fully open to the love of Christ.  I am using this to overcome my fear/anxiety about life in general.  Just posting to make it concrete.

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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2008, 04:44:44 PM »
Dear GS,
 You know of people like Smith Wigglesworth who took Scriptures and "bellieved that they would "actually" work. On the cover of his book, he has a quote,'I have enough audacity to ACTUALLY  believe that God will do what he says."
 I am a poor example of a follower of Jesus, ,but that does not mean that the promises won't work.
 Perfect love casts out fear is one of the main ones to get rid of fear.
 I have had a few, very few ,times when I was filled with God 's love and I was at peace.
 I am with you, on your journey, GS.              Love    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2008, 06:11:58 PM »
The shame and resulting anxiety have been life crippling.  I am moving past this I am believing this and holding it to be true and developoing an image of what it looks like.  I am overcoming this anxiety by holding onto the image of what it feels like to fully open to the love of Christ.  I am using this to overcome my fear/anxiety about life in general.  Just posting to make it concrete.

Me, too, GS...  holding onto the image of what it feels like to fully open to the love of Christ... and also, by faith, holding onto the assurance that He has made me a new creation in Him, believing that there is so much that's been freely laid at our feet... if only we will learn to receive it.

Also I'm believing with you that you most definitely deserve something better... that you were specially and uniquely designed, with loving care, for a wonderful future.

Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

With love,
Carolyn

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2008, 06:35:46 PM »
GS,

I'm struggling so much to get beyond survival mode. Threads like these offer some perspective.

Bee

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Re: Thought Experiment for healing
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2008, 07:10:46 PM »
You know of people like Smith Wigglesworth who took Scriptures and "bellieved that they would "actually" work.
Ami, I am convinced that it is in the "audacity to believe" that makes it come through.  Doubt is the thing that takes it away. Belief in that for which there is no evidence is faith.  I am definitely believing.  It doesn't mean that I don't still have some things to work through.  I have learned that each rung I ascend brings me face to face with some of the same processes and often feels like I'm starting over but it is always a new height that I am reaching. 

I find it only safe to share here because in the 3D world people not only don't understand, many actually have aneed to sabotage out of their own great insecurity and their philosophy that there is a finite amount of "good life" and every bit I get is less for them.  I believe that there is plenty and that we can all have more happiness if we bring others along into our world of happiness.

Thanks CH for that Jeremiah verse.  It is one I am familiar with and it is a wonderful affirmation.  I think I will memorize it and carry it with me.

Betelgueuse.  I am surprised to here that you are struggling to get beyond survival mode.  I hear such strength and understanding and determination in your voice.  I suspect that you are in a place in your journey that is close, very close to getting some kind of a break through.  I know that when I first came here I was most definitely in survival and in some ways I have not seen much change in my outward life but an enormous growth in my inner life and I believe the outward changes are very near indeed.

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Re: Thought Experiment for healing
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2008, 06:47:51 AM »
Hi GS, what a wonderful thread. I relate so much to your thread. I do nelieve in positive thinking and that life will reflect to us what we bring to life. And the most important we bring is our attitud. And attitud is a product of our thoughts, toughts can create the future. Ant predomint thought in our brain can become out attitud. That is why we cannot sleep walk through life and we need to be aware of our thoughts and feelings.
Positive thining as good effects. I am starting with affirmations. Not that I comply everyday, but I am trying. Also mirror work is good. Thank you for this thread. I am going to start my mirror work today.
Love to you.

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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2008, 08:17:33 AM »
Dear GS,
 You know of people like Smith Wigglesworth who took Scriptures and "bellieved that they would "actually" work. On the cover of his book, he has a quote,'I have enough audacity to ACTUALLY  believe that God will do what he says."
 I am a poor example of a follower of Jesus, ,but that does not mean that the promises won't work.
 Perfect love casts out fear is one of the main ones to get rid of fear.
 I have had a few, very few ,times when I was filled with God 's love and I was at peace.
 I am with you, on your journey, GS.              Love    Ami


Hi Ami,

I remember reading the book about Smith Wigglesworth and was in awe of his simple faith.

Smith Wigglesworth simply believed the Word of God and lived it -- he did it!!     NO steps or keys programme or endless books, just the Bible!!

He was not an educated man, his dear wife Polly taught him much, as I recall. 

Awesome.

Grateful for the reminder, as I read the book soon after I was saved and that seems such a long time ago now, and sometimes, I truly feel that I have lost sight of the pure simplicity of the Gospel.

Love & Blessings,

Leah


Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

This verse has been an anchor for so many years now - it is one of several bookmarkers - the words of which are held close to my heart of faith.
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