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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Anything again

« Last post by Meh on March 22, 2026, 11:45:07 PM »

I get this a lot on this site:

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: N.

« Last post by Meh on March 22, 2026, 11:34:17 PM »

Absolutely. How the external training (including brainwashing, religious control, unconscious bias of patriarchy, on and on....) becomes an internal jailer we continue to respect and obey. At the expense of our own best interests.

It's life work. Life-long work, imo, to discover and passionately defend our core values and our core selves. I have mortality on my mind a lot these days but still am animated by the search for MY truth. Made or discovered in ME, by ME.

On we go.

hugs
Hops

I think only some people really pay attention to the self concept. Like some people are oblivious and other people just don't need to focus on it. And then there are people who spend their whole lives trying to figure it out.

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Anything again

« Last post by Meh on March 22, 2026, 11:31:04 PM »

I hear that and I get it.
It shocks me at times when a wave of loneliness comes.

Eventually my sea settles again.

Some days I'm okay with being a speck on a speck in a speck of a universe.

Other days I can't BELIEVE how on my own I feel.

But if I distract, or create (anything) or even tidy up, I get through it.

hugs,
Hops

Yeah there are lots of types of loneliness and a while back I was thinking to journal about that but I never did end up writing on those topics. The fact that it ends up being multiple topics got my attention for a while.

People are not really meant to be socially isolated it's bad for the nervous system probably.

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Anything again

« Last post by Meh on March 22, 2026, 11:27:59 PM »

This morning I went to a small nearby church due to didn't want to travel. I'm not religious. Mostly I wanted to get out and it was Sunday morning. Being that I had never been to that church before two older ladies clung to me and maybe that was okay or not I'm not sure. They sort of did their inventory of me and realized I am not a super religious person and that I only go to random churches randomly which pleases nobody lol. They made a point of telling me it's NOT a non-denominational church. It took me all day for that to sink in because I didn't much care at the time. Wasn't thinking about their club really but then again that's probably partially why I don't join clubs. It's a club.

The pastor had been talking about how people can know the difference between "still small voice" VOICE and "ego" VOICE and essentially I suppose I think most of it is ego-adjacent. It made me start thinking how the word egotistical has gotten a bad connotation even though we pretty much need our egos. Then I started to think about how children of narcissists MIGHT HAVE under-developed egos. I guess EGO is another term for sense-of-self.

After the church experience I aimlessly went to a farmer's market I had never been to. Didn't buy anything. It's usual stuff like soap, candles, cutting boards.

My feet are sore I think my transportation of last resort are depleting collagen or whatever is in one's feet.

The two women at the church they both told me they had basically grown up going to that church. I can't fathom such a thing. To have a set social-bubble.

I had tried the still-small-voice thing yesterday Saturday and all I got from it was "be where you are" - which of course is just my ego trying to sound wise but not saying much at all.

I don't want to think about it.

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Yard

« Last post by Meh on March 22, 2026, 11:06:46 PM »

Sounds like good exercise Lighter. I miss gardening I think it's my favorite thing to do.

Today I saw a rhododendron with almost a tree trunk on it. Also the magnolia trees in people's yards are blooming and cherry/plum trees are blooming so that's all a nice change from winter.

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Yard

« Last post by Hopalong on March 22, 2026, 07:55:02 PM »

A LOT of accomplishment for one early spring day, Lighter. Good on you.

I remember and MISS that tired-body feeling after a day of gardening.

Soon your house will be ready for market and you can get excited about your new personal nest at the lake.

hugs
Hops

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Yard

« Last post by lighter on March 22, 2026, 06:33:59 PM »

I have sit, and cool down in the breeze, for a minute, as I'm 2/3 the through clearing 10 years of leaf debris under the luyken laurels in front of my home.  Poor poor dear things have suffered such neglect, bc the moss, hydrangeas, ferns, and Linton Roses were heavily favored..... it's just time to do the dirty.

Today, I'm vacuuming leaves, pruning, and feeding the Laurels Miracle Grow, in hopes of bringing them back to their glory.  There's 2 in the back....I should give the wee sorry things some care also, but not today.  They're flanked, by two overgrown Camellia bushes ....now tree sized.  When I went to see how they're doing, I faced was faced with DD, her bf and they're uncovered bedroom window.  SO Lighter.

My heads pounding and I'm pink faced......will be lucky to finish the front.

The Rhododendron, near the Laurels, has grown quite large, blocking all views from the street, which is the point.  It's twice the height of the rail, whoo hoo!  I've just cut it back from the driveway....might take the highest couple of branches off, to even it up.

All the Hemlocks look healthy .....all the transplants are growing in every direction!!  Very happy about that.

Lighter

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Anything again

« Last post by Hopalong on March 22, 2026, 01:38:07 PM »

I hear that and I get it.
It shocks me at times when a wave of loneliness comes.

Eventually my sea settles again.

Some days I'm okay with being a speck on a speck in a speck of a universe.

Other days I can't BELIEVE how on my own I feel.

But if I distract, or create (anything) or even tidy up, I get through it.

hugs,
Hops

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Anything again

« Last post by Meh on March 21, 2026, 11:46:22 PM »

Oh, haha, well I am not truly in a situation to get any sort of pets.

Merely lamenting random thoughts of various types of being lonely I guess.

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Voicelessness and Emotional Survival Message Board / Re: Anything again

« Last post by Hopalong on March 21, 2026, 04:27:00 PM »

God, your cats sound FANTASTIC, Amber!

I'm wondering if at 75, I could have "outgrown" the allergy?
Only one way to find out. One allergist appointment for one test.

I'm sorely tempted. Willing to do the shots, even.

Meh, could a cat or two do the job? They really are cheap to support.

hugs
Hops