Author Topic: No Conflict Zone  (Read 8300 times)

teartracks

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2008, 06:24:26 PM »




Hi lighter, 

TT.... I think lampooning might be an accurate assessment of some of my posts:

 (((TT)))  I've missed you too and..... what did you mean when you suggested I send my children to a ruralghetto school? 

I still don't understand how I was supposed to take that one.  I only know I haven't taken it any way, so I ask: )

Well, lighter My writing skills are not such that I have any room to critique that of another, so that's my disclaimer.  On first, second and third reads of your post (i wanted to read and greet you on your return) which was long to begin with then stretched down an even longer page like a Portuguese fisherman's net, I couldn't tell if there was a point to be gathered.   Part of the time you sounded like an elitist glorying amidst your new (I'm assuming new) expansive bed of fellow elitists.  Then some of the time, you sounded like someone had tricked you and set you down in a bed of  extravagant elitists without your having had a say.  Then some of the time, it sounded like you were so frustrated by the situation that you just had  to escape ::wiping brow:: .  I still don't know if I'm even warm in any of what I thought. 

Anyway, that's what I came away thinking and the only way I could make any sense of what I was thinking was to categorize it as a lampoon.  So I thought, "I need to ask lighter if that is what she is doing."   

It seemed to me that somehow between moving from the place where you could walk to the ghetto school across the street to where you live  now, you forgot that there are alternatives to the situation you are in. But only if you hate it and desire to instill  a slightly different set of values from those  available to you in the present system.  In other words if you're feeling like you're feeding your children through an elitist sausage grinder where each link comes our precisely the same, and you really don't want to do that - you can do it differently.   There are options.  One being a nice country kindergarten/school where kids are more apt   to learn  and develop freestyle and without so much social pressure.  Hopefully, they wouldn't have to check their brain at the door either.  My offering was to simply point out that even though you may feel bogged down with  disgust in the present system, there are alternatives.

When you talk about your daughter going to be 'observed' it reminds me of being in a country run by a dictator, where all visitors are assigned  'minders'.  Very uncomfortable.

lighter does the kindergarten you anticipate using have cameras that allow you, the parent to view your child from home or work?  Just curious.

lighter, there are rural ghettos all over our country.  I'm not advocating one way or the other that you search out one of these for your children.  Every system has it's good, better and best points.  But what you described (if I'm getting it right) seems like such a quagmire of fictitious traditions, rules and regulations, agendas that are designed to feed into the next fictitious system.  The world.  Now aren't I cheerful today!

Oh by the way people fart all the time, even you.  Surprisingly, some people who refuse to control their bodilly noises  do so to control and annoy others, and they are apt to have an attitude of, OK, so what are you going to do about it?  This is especially true with farting and belching.  Now isn't that an interesting little tidbit of pop psychology?  You'd think I went to farting and belching school :P

tt


Gabben

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2008, 06:48:27 PM »
Oh by the way people fart all the time, even you.  Surprisingly, some people who refuse to control their bodilly noises  do so to control and annoy others, and they are apt to have an attitude of, OK, so what are you going to do about it?  This is especially true with farting and belching.  Now isn't that an interesting little tidbit of pop psychology?  You'd think I went to farting and belching school :P


tt --perhaps you should start a new thread on this topic?






ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

Certain Hope

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2008, 07:19:16 PM »

((((((((  LOL    :lol: )))))))))

lighter

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2008, 10:25:51 AM »
tt:

Thanks for your assessment of my posts. 

I understand.

Sometimes I'm so sick of myself, and thoughts, that I can hardly stand it. 

Talking about the school dilemma is almost as much fun as discussing Ns with people who've never dealt with them.

::looking forward to a thread on farting, (or boompies, as we call them, in this family.)::

Here, we have a hard time ignoring them..... they seem to be cause for great joy and laughter.

 ::shrug::

Haven't given it too much thought but I suppose there'll be folks here who think that's awful and others who'll have some sort of obligatory fart/toilet game, everyone's dates must participate in, on Saturday night before they may leave the house :shock:

Just as long as I'm not required to accept anyone else's fart/belch belief system,  I don't much care one way or the other.



Gabben

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2008, 12:17:39 PM »

Just as long as I'm not required to accept anyone else's fart/belch belief system,  I don't much care one way or the other.



LOL :lol:

Perhpas I should start a thread titled: "Why do other people's farts stink and my don't?"   :P


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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2008, 12:21:48 PM »
Lise,
Your farts stink?????????? I've never heard of that.
Love, Beth
"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable." Douglas Adams

Gabben

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2008, 12:29:37 PM »
Lise,
Your farts stink?????????? I've never heard of that.
Love, Beth


Oh No Beth -- my farts DO NOT stink.....I'm perfect. It is everyone else's farts that stink, at least that is my belief system :P :P

I guess you can call me a Cathofartist.

Lise
« Last Edit: February 26, 2008, 12:32:41 PM by Gabben »

Ami

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2008, 12:31:33 PM »
We should do a whole thing with N's and THIS  topic(lol).                            Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

Gabben

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2008, 12:44:52 PM »
DMS criteria for NFD (Narcissistic Fart Disorder)

1.has a grandiose sense of self-importance (my farts are bigger and better)

2.is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love (wants to wipe out the universe with one huge fart.)

3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique (My Farts don't stink but yours do)

4. requires excessive admiration (example not necessary -- you get the point)

5. has a sense of entitlement (Will fart anywhere at anytime)

6. is interpersonally exploitative -- (Uses other people's farts to make themselves look good.)

7. lacks empathy (example not necessary-- you get the point)

8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her (my Farts are bigger and better than yours - everyone wishes they could fart like me.)

9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes (let's not go there)



Gabben

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2008, 12:46:35 PM »
Hi Izzy -- I'm confused??? Can you give me a grammar lesson?

My grammar not good, if you haven't noticed?

« Last Edit: February 26, 2008, 12:52:42 PM by Gabben »

Gabben

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2008, 01:05:34 PM »
OK, so here goes my first Izzy grammar test:

Why do other people's farts stink and my farts do not?

Is that better?

Gab

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2008, 01:07:31 PM »
Quote
Lost their ability/desire/strength to sustain BEING who they spent time and energy cultivating?

For most of the last 17 months since my breakup, that was me, barely finding the strength to get up one more day, to go to bed instead of driving my car off a cliff every evening, just putting my one foot in front of the other with some thin thread of faith I was hanging onto that one day it wouldnt be so bad.

Today...it's not nearly so bad, despite having moments come and go when I feel so much hatred bubbling up I'm afraid I'd be arrested or committed if he showed up here again....and so much grief and empty space where my heart used to be swelling, that I feel like I'm falling down a bottomless pit of dark emptiness.

I really like this last post of your Lighter.  I am looking forward to a recap of strengths earned, lessons learned.  I'm hungry to hear about those things from the survivors who have trudged ahead before me.


I'm so sorry your post got lost in the fart fray.  

I'm reposting your words to get myself, ah hem, back on track.


I hope you post on the coping strategies thread.... I haven't heard any of your strategies yet.


Gabben

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2008, 01:16:35 PM »
Dear Lighter:

Sorry that I hijacked your thread -- the "no conflict zone."

Peace,
Lise

Gabben

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2008, 01:17:46 PM »
Is this better:

Why do other people's farts stink and not mine?

Gabben

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Re: No Conflict Zone
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2008, 01:22:51 PM »
 :lol: :lol: